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Paul Gale Network Bullshit: "Star Fox Metroid: Fusion Saga" isn't real (no shit!)
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godisturbed
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This is the game nobody wants them to make. However if they stick some jetsking, snowboarding and futuristic racing in too Id be strangely tempted.
People need to stop harping over the fact Samus is a human and Star Fox is anamorphic.
Both Star Fox and Metroid share one common bond in their games: Exploring distant planets.
That common bond allows for a very ambitious, epic sci fi adventure. The idea of space traveling to all of these strange planets could be totally awesome.
Both Star Fox and Metroid share one common bond in their games: Exploring distant planets.
That common bond allows for a very ambitious, epic sci fi adventure. The idea of space traveling to all of these strange planets could be totally awesome.
Metroid has appeared in Kirby. In fact, even Samus appears.
This doesn't seem crazy, especially if you think all of Nintendo's franchise exists in a "Nintendoverse".
Not the same as a full-fledged crossover. The little cameos are great but this would be... weird. It seems like both SF and Metroid fans would rather have dedicated games rather than a mixture of two franchises that have totally different tones.
i mean if it basically comes down to being metroid prime 4 + star fox 2 combo pack i'm sure people would be fine with it. the eventual crossover aspect would be weird, but if everything else was handled right i don't think people would be too bothered by it.
splitting up retro's moody metroid with lighthearted star fox banter would be the worst part of it. or vice versa.
splitting up retro's moody metroid with lighthearted star fox banter would be the worst part of it. or vice versa.
Incitemaybe
Member
Would buy, but sounds like two whole games.......
Hmmm...my first thought is "That is the worst idea I've ever heard in my life Tom. Yes, it is horrible, this idea".
Then again, Retro is pretty much 4 for 4 (I would say 3.5 anyway), so if any of Nintendo's teams could pull it off successfully, it'd be Retro.
I just don't like the idea of Metroid being diluted any more than it already has. I really want to see another extremely solid Metroid game after the disappointment that was Other M. Save the crossover experimentation for something else. Personally speaking, MP3 wasn't up to snuff, so for me it's been 8 years since I had an extremely satisfying new Metroid experience (and I got two that year, MZM and MP2).
Eh.
Then again, Retro is pretty much 4 for 4 (I would say 3.5 anyway), so if any of Nintendo's teams could pull it off successfully, it'd be Retro.
I just don't like the idea of Metroid being diluted any more than it already has. I really want to see another extremely solid Metroid game after the disappointment that was Other M. Save the crossover experimentation for something else. Personally speaking, MP3 wasn't up to snuff, so for me it's been 8 years since I had an extremely satisfying new Metroid experience (and I got two that year, MZM and MP2).
Eh.
a Master Ninja
Member
The story can't be worse than Other M.
Maybe this would be an easier pill to swallow: Not "Star Fox - Metroid: Fusion Saga," but "FUSION SAGA: Star Fox - Metroid."
In other words, it's a new IP called Fusion Saga, and this one crosses Star Fox and Metroid in a tonally balanced, creatively reinterpreted, completely non-canonical way.
It even opens the possibility for other Fusion Saga installments down the road, with diferent crossovers as the subtitle...
In other words, it's a new IP called Fusion Saga, and this one crosses Star Fox and Metroid in a tonally balanced, creatively reinterpreted, completely non-canonical way.
It even opens the possibility for other Fusion Saga installments down the road, with diferent crossovers as the subtitle...
I think this franchise could be an amazing.
An entire IP dedicated to crossing Nintendo franchises together.
Japan would go crazy over it
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I wouldn't mind this if it was non-canon. I think the novelty of the two very different takes on the sci-fi genre blending together could work for a game, but I'd hate if it went all comic books and said, "Oh by the way, all these games take place in the same universe, and now anything that happens in Metroid has to be taken into account in Star Fox."
That said, I feel like Star Fox and F-Zero would've been a much more natural fit. They're much more closely linked, in that they both premiered on the SNES and haven't had a console game since the Gamecube, they both had the same character designer (if I'm remembering that correctly), they're both more lighthearted takes on sci-fi, and they're both fast-paced action games about characters in vehicles. I could see the flow of racing stage -> shooting stage -> racing stage -> shooting stage working a lot better than having slow, on-foot exploration instead of the racing stage. F-Zero also has an extended cast of characters who could contribute to a Star Fox style comm chatter thing, including one very specific Star Fox reference.
That said, I feel like Star Fox and F-Zero would've been a much more natural fit. They're much more closely linked, in that they both premiered on the SNES and haven't had a console game since the Gamecube, they both had the same character designer (if I'm remembering that correctly), they're both more lighthearted takes on sci-fi, and they're both fast-paced action games about characters in vehicles. I could see the flow of racing stage -> shooting stage -> racing stage -> shooting stage working a lot better than having slow, on-foot exploration instead of the racing stage. F-Zero also has an extended cast of characters who could contribute to a Star Fox style comm chatter thing, including one very specific Star Fox reference.
Difference with Fusion Saga is unlike Smash Bros., it would actually represent the gameplay styles that make the crossed series unique.Ya know, I think they already have an ip for that!
Absolutely.
That's what I expect if this game is real.
Nah, F-Zero is getting updated by Monster Games (I hope!).
SpacePirate Ridley
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Its funny that apart of the people not wanting it becuase they think the universes dont mix well (understandable although im of the thought that being both space bounty hunters can make a pretty good mix) the other biggest complaint is "but but i dont want furries in ma metroid!"
I dont know what is sadder, to think that a lighthearted 90's antromorphic animal series can be harmful in any way because atumaticaly "furries!" or the hate of Star Fox becuase fun on rails shooter are not really famous anymore (the complaint of not paying same amount of money for a on rails shoter than, for example, Gears of War).
I dont know what is sadder, to think that a lighthearted 90's antromorphic animal series can be harmful in any way because atumaticaly "furries!" or the hate of Star Fox becuase fun on rails shooter are not really famous anymore (the complaint of not paying same amount of money for a on rails shoter than, for example, Gears of War).
This would just confirm that Nintendo has no fucking idea what to do with either franchise at this point.
Reading the description it sounds like two wildly different games, that take place in wildly different universes. Almost as if someone put out a Mario Galaxy and Battlefield 3 mashup.
Reading the description it sounds like two wildly different games, that take place in wildly different universes. Almost as if someone put out a Mario Galaxy and Battlefield 3 mashup.
Yeesh.
People should not doubt Retro.
If the game is fun and done tastefully who cares. Let Nintendo do all the weird shit they want, that's why we like them anyways isn't it?
Imagine if you could play as Samus on one screen and Fox on the handheld. Co-op but in a completely different sense. (not sure if that is possible to have so much loading off of the disk)
.la1n
Member
I never had an issue when I found out Metroid was going first person. The universe was still the same and it remained faithful to the original concept. This on the other hand is taking the universe and crapping on it, like Other M before it. Despite all of that, I really do not think this will be end up true. If it does then Nintendo has officially lost it.
Aaron Strife
Banned
If this is true it'll probably just be a new Star Fox game on the same disc as a new Metroid game, with some elements shared between and weird story shit near the end.
I don't see what's wrong with that. I think Nintendo's just not that confident in full-fledged Metroid and Star Fox games on Wii U (given Other M and SF643D's sales), so combining them into one might open each franchise up to a broader audience and be a worthier investment.
I don't see what's wrong with that. I think Nintendo's just not that confident in full-fledged Metroid and Star Fox games on Wii U (given Other M and SF643D's sales), so combining them into one might open each franchise up to a broader audience and be a worthier investment.
Plus, the sound of "new Mario, Pikmin, Metroid and Star Fox" at launch makes my nipples hard.
Gamer @ Heart
Member
How do you get to this from the rumor? Its says its specifically a crossover, not a dual pack.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Well... he wasnt wrong about sony smash
And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he also leak Donkey Kong Country Returns?
That's what I heard.
Elfforkusu
Member
Occam's Razor: Retro is making two games!
You remind me of the people who said Pokemon would never have numbered sequels to their mainline games.
Point being, new things get invented.
I trust Shikamaru Ninja he knows his stuff.
Ghost_Protocol
Member
Isn't this the same site that called playstation all stars?
dancrane212
Member
And the TMNT game from Rocksteady (Which they ended up denying).
Yes.
FunkyPajamas
Member
That bump was glorious.
Metroid Hunter
Banned
Link? I wanna see it!
Ghost_Protocol
Member
I can absolutely believe this was an IDEA tossed around at some point, but I don't think it will be the end product.
Gamer @ Heart
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Not that I remember. I'm pretty sure IGN was the first to break it officially 2 days before the conference.
After so more thought, I really don't want this to be true. I think Retro is talented, but the potential for this to go wrong just seems too high to ever be considered, let alone make it into production.
But he also got that Rocksteady-developed TMNT game completely wrong.
EDIT: Beaten, by a lot.
But he also got that Rocksteady-developed TMNT game completely wrong.
EDIT: Beaten, by a lot.
Really a number of ways it could play out.
If a Star Fox/Metroid concept was pitched at one point:
- ...it might have ended up like the Sheik demo Retro Studios apparently pitched to Nintendo, only to have it declined
- ...it might have started as a crossover project, but at some point it became apparent the game would work better for whatever reason as a pure Star Fox title, or a pure Metroid title, and so it evolved into that
- ...it might have started as a crossover project between Star Fox and Metroid, but then started incorporating other franchises as well, like Zelda
- ...it started as a crossover but then evolved into a brand new IP with brand new characters (a reverse Kirby's Epic Yarn, if you would)
- ...or, it started as a Star Fox/Metroid crossover and stayed as such, and Fusion Saga will be the final game.
These possibilities are assuming such a thing were ever pitched in the first place.
Freezie KO
Banned
I don't mind the IPs being mixed, but I don't want to slog through Metroid segments to get to the fun Star Fox segments. And I'd imagine a lot of Metroid fans would feel the opposite as myself.
I'd think gameplay-wise, they'd have to pick one or the other. Either action and shooting or exploration and adventure. If they're really doing a wacky crossover, I think action/shooting is the way to go, but that's my personal preference.
I'd think gameplay-wise, they'd have to pick one or the other. Either action and shooting or exploration and adventure. If they're really doing a wacky crossover, I think action/shooting is the way to go, but that's my personal preference.
MrCunningham
Member
It's like Alien VS Predator all over again (the movies, not the games)..... Good thing that Paul W.S. Anderson has no involvement.
But really, if it is true, how much worse could it be than Rares own Star Fox Adventures? These Retro E3 rumors keep getting more ludicrous with each passing week .