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Persona 5 Social-Link/Confidant discussion |OT| Laughing Banana is Makoto's husbando
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Didn't read your spoilers, not going to either. I'm early on and having fun.
Spinosaurus
Member
Yeah I agree, it's not like there's a shortage of older women you can date in this game anyway, and the whole confidant is already sleazy as is.
Though I doubt they went with the whole maid thing without any intention of making her dateable in the game.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Haven't seen a cosplay of her with the leather jacket and spiderweb minidress. So damn good.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Pretty much my thoughts on it. She's a great character who was sabotaged with a less than stellar Social Link.
themaskedndi
Member
Yeah, I don't get why her social link is the way it is. I thought about choosing her this playthrough, but I just wasn't enjoying her social link at all.
Kind of wish they would have time-gated part of her SL until after the 6th palace so that you could hang out with both Niijima sisters. I guess there's already not enough time for Haru at that point.
Still trying to figure out who I'll choose for NG+. I picked Futaba this round and don't think I want to romance any of the adults, except maybe Chihaya.
SENPAIatLARGE
Banned
I was interested in Futaba until I heard the line "She just graduated middle school."
Then I was like:
Then I was like:
TheGamingBox
Banned
I was interested in Futaba until I heard the line "She just graduated middle school."
Then I was like:
middle school in japan being the equivalent of grade 7-9 in america
she is probably the same age as kanji, naoto, and rise were in persona 4
SENPAIatLARGE
Banned
It doesn't help that she acts like a kid as well.
razgriz417
Member
Yeah I went into the game thinking Futaba was gonna be my bae but she's def has a kid sister vibe.
Just decided on Makoto, sorry Tae, you were a close 2nd, def in NG+ if i don't decide to go harem route
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
I feel like with Makoto, the writers put themselves into a corner because they couldn't have the protagonist getting involved in her home life since the entire framing device of the game is based on Sae not knowing who the Protagonist is, so a divide ended up being created with her Confidant.
Confidant-wise I'd honestly say Futaba and Haru's are better than Ann and Makoto's.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Yeah, I'd have to agree - still leaves me unsure of which of the 3 (Makoto, Haru, Tae) to romance.
cj_iwakura
Member
How does having Temperance do laundry work? I don't see an option for it.
LumpOfCole
Member
Tae is the correct answer.
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
You call her after you put everything in.
I wasn't even able to complete it due to the charm requirement being the absolute maximum just for a
freaking play date, wtf?
Kawakami:
I maxed her's out. I was worried maxing her's out would lock me out of others, but apparently it won't because only one will be romantic and the rest platonic.
I debated between maxing her's or Takemi's, and seeing the level 10 benefit, I definitely made the right decision.
I debated between maxing her's or Takemi's, and seeing the level 10 benefit, I definitely made the right decision.
Yup, I found Ann and Makoto's social links dull bordering on just plain crap. Having
Eiko, a faceless NPC, dominate the social link so much she gated progress in it was a mistake
Yeah, she looks cute and cool. Packing a grenade launcher too!
razgriz417
Member
took me until July to figure that out...
I love how she screams "boom!" when she uses it.
cj_iwakura
Member
Yep, thanks. Wrong on. So. many. levels.
I think Ann is better because:
you have a conclusion to the story of shiho, that you dont see in the main game, and this part is Very cool, the model part sux
BassForever
Member
Ann's social link was like 3 different social links duct taped together to try and form some kind of coherent whole.
LousyTactician
Neo Member
This Joker now hails to the Queen.
I see where people are coming from when they say Makoto's Confidant is a bit underwhelming compared to others. But I don't think it 'bad' per-say.
. The actual conversations with Makoto are great. I certainly disagree that it 'ruins' her as a character. Her presence in the main game (and to a lesser extent the optional events. Gotta admire a chick who watches Yakuza films.) alone made decide to hook up with her, and she does develop over the course of the Confidant.
I see where people are coming from when they say Makoto's Confidant is a bit underwhelming compared to others. But I don't think it 'bad' per-say.
It just dedicates too much time to Makoto's ditz of a friend
I just wish the writers used a method other than Eiko to carry it out.
While I do agree that they're not as powerful as Futaba's genuinely affecting promise list, it's interesting that Makoto and Ann both have their S-links tied really, really heavily to gendered labor. Heck, the entire game is basically one long examination of what people are asked to do for money and respect. For Makoto,
Ann's is all about modeling as a mix of physical talent and brute-force manipulation of the field,
I mean, look at how the S-links break down:
And the palaces...
It's basically Exploited Workers: The Game.
it's one long arc towards her decision to be a police commissioner while also looking at Eiko's exploitation by her boyfriend at the maid cafe for money.
with her rival being a kind of echo of Sae's palace (if you can't win the game as a woman, rig the bets to help you win).
Star: girl forced to become shogi star by manipulative mother
Sun: politician disgraced by economic scandal
Temperance: teacher forced to work extra hours due to past incident
Death: doctor forced out of her practice by evil supervisor
Devil: journalist forced to work extra hours due to pursuing a scandal
Fortune: country girl quickly manipulated into helping cult sell fake stones
Hanged Man: former yakuza member trapped into bad business deal w/past partner
Moon: kid develops obsessive fixation on his work & fame for/on the Phan-Site
Tower: kid suffers from mom being single parent with crushed career dreams who forces him into being super-competitive
Sun: politician disgraced by economic scandal
Temperance: teacher forced to work extra hours due to past incident
Death: doctor forced out of her practice by evil supervisor
Devil: journalist forced to work extra hours due to pursuing a scandal
Fortune: country girl quickly manipulated into helping cult sell fake stones
Hanged Man: former yakuza member trapped into bad business deal w/past partner
Moon: kid develops obsessive fixation on his work & fame for/on the Phan-Site
Tower: kid suffers from mom being single parent with crushed career dreams who forces him into being super-competitive
And the palaces...
Kaneshiro seeing people as ATMs, Okumura seeing them as robots, Madarame's swiping of pupil labor, Kamoshida turning the team into slaves...
Do laundry at night.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
I was interested in Futaba until I heard the line "She just graduated middle school."
Then I was like:
LOL she's a year younger than the MC.
If anything the whole host of adult women like Kawakami, Takemi, Ohya, or Chihiyo is a lot 'creepier' with how they're fawning over a minor.
BRSxIgnition
Member
I mean, it's really hard to say no to her after doing her entire link and seeing her Rank 10... but she feels so removed from the rest of the party.
To be fair, Takemi never fawns over a minor. She thinks about it for a few days then say "eh screw it" and sends you a text.
I mean, yeah, she gives in, but I wouldn't call it fawning.
he steals the heart of every girl he comes into contact with. Any more time with Sae and she would have been all over him. He's too powerful.
Also the Velvet Twins (new game+ spoiler)
After beating them and Caroline being all "I miss you when you aren't here" he pretty much gets the attention of every girl. Also the "I can't choose between the both of you" response made me go all "hahaha that's creepy ew"
BassForever
Member
Takemi just wanted to make sure there weren't any unusual markings on your body after the many clinical trials, and she needed a long time at night to make sure everything worked properly 😀
LumpOfCole
Member
People are still doubting Tae as the best choice. By every metric, Tae is at the height of the game's available romance choices.
First, Tae has her own theme music, and it's good music. No, Crossroads does not count as Ohya's music anymore than the church's BGM counts as Togo's music. It's Tae's clinic, she owns it, it's her music. The theme is called Butterfly Kiss. Tae has music. The lesser female confidants (everyone else) do not have their own music. This should be foreshadowing enough for folks to realize what the pecking order will turn out to be.
Let's dispel any rumors right now that true waifus must be party members. I don't care if I'm
To add onto that point, undisputed worst girl Kawakami
First, Tae has her own theme music, and it's good music. No, Crossroads does not count as Ohya's music anymore than the church's BGM counts as Togo's music. It's Tae's clinic, she owns it, it's her music. The theme is called Butterfly Kiss. Tae has music. The lesser female confidants (everyone else) do not have their own music. This should be foreshadowing enough for folks to realize what the pecking order will turn out to be.
Let's dispel any rumors right now that true waifus must be party members. I don't care if I'm
missing out on scenes at the beach or at the school festival when I'm getting shit like this. Plus, Futaba is the best in-party waifu choice and she has just as many romance scenes as non-party confidants since she isn't in school. If my choosing a romance is limited by "with whom can I watch the sunset in Hawaii" or "who can I watch be so boring at the school festival that I have to save them", then I'm already a lost cause and I might as well just put all my chips on the wasted potential that is Makoto (as yes, Makoto is the just wasted potential).
To add onto that point, undisputed worst girl Kawakami
has both Hawaii and School Festival scenes - and because she's a teacher, actually gets scenes that are a bit more unique than if you chose a schoolmate. Even with all of that, it doesn't change the fact that she's a teacher who epitomizes terrible judgement. The only argument going for Kawakami is the novelty teacher and/or maid factor, and knowing you're only in town to do your romancing for a little under a year. Still, her terrible character should be such a turn-off that the novelty should not be able to save it.
A Phantom is haunting tokyo
BRSxIgnition
Member
People are still doubting Tae as the best choice. By every metric, Tae is at the height of the game's available romance choices.
I mean, you're right...
...
But it still feels like I'm betraying Makoto - liked her most until that confidant made me start doubting her
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
He can't be right. He says Becky is worst girl. What a monster. Tae is best waifu though. That much is certain.
cj_iwakura
Member
Rumors about Hifumi have started up. Do I need to go looking for her or will I be pretty much hit over the head with her arrival?
There's a forced text chat about her. So pretty much.
That said, they don't force you to actually go and talk to her.
arturo2666
Banned
Palace 7/Makoto
she ruined any chances with me when she ordered foie gras
cj_iwakura
Member
Good enough for me. Getting to Charm X to finish Tae is going to take forever though.
BRSxIgnition
Member
Becky is great as an confidant, if a bit weird, but I don't consider her a romance option.
That's about all Hifumi has going for her outside her amazing confidant abilities. Her romance rank up is embarrassingly short and pathetic.
Mr. Lemming
Member
Takemi also has her own GUI/Storefront with that slick animation which is also unique among the romance options.
It's a message, not a call.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
You monster
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I know. That's such a great Futaba cosplay in these pics.
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