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Phil says January is time to talk about games for Windows
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Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
Unless it's an announcement that they're handing their PC gaming initiatives over to Steam & GOG, this will be added to the long list of Microsoft not giving a flying fuck about PC games.
soul creator
Member
It's a bit of a dream, but it does fit in with their all digital/cross platform ambitions. It would basically be cross play for Xbox/Windows.
It would probably piss off the "Steam or no sale" folks if it's only available on the MS App store, but it would obviously make logistical sense, since the same MS account works on both.
What they are doing is allowing any desktop application (talking non-Modern app[WinRT]) to be listed and downloaded from the store. It already will be a Steam competitor just by that fact alone. The questions are, what kind of cut does MS get, does MS host the files, are updates handled through the store, will they open up the Xbox APIs for use in games(achievements, friends, messages, etc)?
Angelus Errare
Banned
This time will be totes different because this time will be totes different.
Yeah, but that reply was a classic case of someone not understanding IP ownership (Dead Rising 3 is Capcom'S, Ryse is ours).
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I mean, to the extent that it'd piss off people it would be because people would rightly worry that MS, fresh off abandoning their last PC gaming initiative and causing a painful process of game delisting or conversion over a multiple year period, wasn't credible when they claimed they would continue to support their new initiative.
It'd also be a sense that MS has the capacity to be a very good PC publisher and occasionally achieves their potential... But the corporate culture frequently interferes in a way that undermines the otherwise interesting and high quality software. That was true even before Steam. So signs from MS that they're committed to doing right by their software are a good thing while signs from MS that they see software as part of some broader strategic aim are terrifying.
The most important question would be "will they allow software to be sold in third party stores and be redeemed in their store ala steam?", which I have a strong hunch will be answered in a negative fashion.
They aren't going to lock down the free distribution of traditional desktop software.
This! If ms opened a "Microsoft Game store" that was on par with steam, and competed by offering Xbox 360 and Xbox one "exclusive" games, I'd be in! Hell if it was promising enough I'd even upgrade to Windows 10. Thats all it would take for me to jump in!
That's not what I was meaning to say, one of the biggest advantages of Steam (and even Origin/Uplay) is to be able to go to one of several sites (Humble Bundle, GMG, Amazon) and buy a product there which I can then activate at Steam. This is what allowed competition within the PC gaming market place to be taken to another level.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I'd be totally happy with that too, as long as MS gave it a serious and respectful effort, not like GFWL was. That was so incredibly half assed and worthless.
Being able to play Xbox games on my PC like the MCC and KI would be fantastic, and especially if they had cross play between the Xbox and PC.
alexandros
Banned
Perfect. Well done!
Fuck that noise.
All I want from Microsoft is their games, new and old, on current digital distribution platforms like Steam and GOG.
That's it. Nothing else. I have no interest in anything else they have to say about PC gaming. I just don't trust them.
Magic Mushroom
Member
I''ll sell my Xbox One if that's the case. I have a PC, so there would be no need for my Bone anymore.
alexandros
Banned
Which is why SteamOS needs to be a success. The fact that PC gaming is still shackled to Microsoft and Windows is unacceptable.
Hockeymac18
Member
I would love to see this. It would be great if with the Windows 10 integration and release of the universal apps platform on W10/XB1 that a steam "app" came to the XB1. They could still release games specifically for XB1, but also have the steam library at their disposal.
It would basically become a really cool steam box at that point. I think a lot of people who would have never considered an XB1 might get a bit more interested in it.
Hopefully this is something they're considering... Although I doubt it would happen (even if it does make strategic sense in many ways).
Microsoft still run into that console service problem if they go somewhere with PC gaming like Steam.
Hell, you can't even message people without the need of a gold account outside of the console.
The more feature rich the PC side becomes, you make paying for Xbox Live look terribly silly because they couldn't possibly charge for anything beyond Azure servers and cloud storage for something. Microsoft were dragged kicking and screaming to just free apps long after it was a sad joke.
Hell, you can't even message people without the need of a gold account outside of the console.
The more feature rich the PC side becomes, you make paying for Xbox Live look terribly silly because they couldn't possibly charge for anything beyond Azure servers and cloud storage for something. Microsoft were dragged kicking and screaming to just free apps long after it was a sad joke.
What? It's their product they can call it whatever they want. It's the same as saying how was Leonard Part 6 legal?
ashecitism
Member
The way Valve handled it so far, don't bet on it.
Except allowing Steam to be on XBO would cannibalize software sales.
Ol No Bones
Banned
I honestly think this is a great idea. Xbox will look like more of a service over time and less about the box.
Paracelsus
Member
So they come from a point where they have everything to prove as far as PC gaming is concerned, and according to neogaf they should lock this new alleged gaming platform behind an OS after the W8 half-fiasco, so that's two questionable things put together. Sounds like the perfect recipe to broaden their presence in the PC gaming world. Sure.
IndoAssassin
Banned
Please not another drm distribution software
LowerLevel
Member
I'm sure, but there were other feedback posts suggesting the same thing without mentioning any IP's really. That one surprisingly is the most "popular" I believe. Still, people have been worried over Xbox games on PC before the tweet in question was posted is all I meant.
On which side? MS would still push Xbox One Exclusive games and well as Steam Cross format ones. It would also compete against various Steambox hardware too.
I dunno!
Those version numbers are only for compatibility with poorly written software that freaks out when the major version number is greater than 6. Windows 10 is actually going to start reporting it's real version number (10) with a later release, to all programs that have the proper application manifest. Anything without the windows 10 app manifest will get a 6.x number (depending on which version of Windows it says it was built for).
Uh...Does this mean that XBO exclusives maybe be soon available on the Windows platform? Sunset Overdrive? Forza Horizon 2? Halo 5? Quantom Break?
Or does this mean a fully-featured Windows OS on XBO?
Maybe seamless gaming between all Windows platforms...Windows Mobile devices, PC and XBO? I'm very curious now.
Doug Heffernan
Member
To cannibalize console sales and alienate existing Xbox One owners?
Bad idea.
Microsoft's approach to PC gaming should be with PC exclusive IPs that have a history on that platform; such as AoE, Flight Sim and Rise of Nations.
Although, Minecraft could work well as a cross platform IP on Xbox Live.
It would gut all non-first party titles with all the money going towards Valve. Unless they strike some magic deal where Valve hands back XX% of the sale price to MS.
broncobuster
Banned
All I ask for is a wireless Xbox One controller adapter.
Fox Mulder
Member
Porting xb1 exclusives to the PC already would just piss people off.
CharmingCharlie
Member
At the end of the day whilst the Xbone exists Microsoft will never do anything meaningful towards PC gaming. Their number one priority with regards to gaming will be the Xbone and they will not risk doing anything on the PC that will in anyway "damage" their console.
All these ideas of Xbox on the PC and Steam on the Xbox will not happen. The whole reason behind creation of the Xbox brand in the first place was to give Microsoft a closed platform that it could control and extort/maximise as much money out of users as possible.
All these ideas of Xbox on the PC and Steam on the Xbox will not happen. The whole reason behind creation of the Xbox brand in the first place was to give Microsoft a closed platform that it could control and extort/maximise as much money out of users as possible.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
Gentlemen, the perfect metaphor.
Which is stupid as fuck because Windows brings in more money in a year than Xbox division has in it's entire life.
Yoda
Member
I don't really think its that much of an issue. I've played Linux and Mac games from my stream library that were ported. While some of them were obviously quick money grab ports, quite a few weren't. Obviously not many people have OSX but everyone has easy access to Linux. If Microsoft tried to "control" the market then Valve would easily be able to push for another linux distro if Steam OS wasn't ready to ship. Lets not pretend Microsoft isn't aware of their bad PR imagine, they'd re-enter the shit hurricane if they tried anything to siphon off money cause "well we own windows!"
Hell, I would double dip on Sunset Overdrive. If there was ever a game in desperate need of some AA and a frame rate bump it's that game.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
What are the chances that devs will be able to do push-button publishing to between Xbox and PCs? I wonder if their will be the ability to play your X1 games on your PC and your 360 games on both? MS has been going platform agnostic over the past year and I wonder if we will see that ideology bleed into the gaming space. Still, the importance and necessity for exclusive on the X1 platform is not lost on me.