It had to be BS , going by how much timevwevwere told the TombRaider port took , making H2/3/4 ports to X1 would be approaching new game dev time.
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Phil Spencer: Still have flagship games in development; "new IP critical"
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It had to be BS , going by how much timevwevwere told the TombRaider port took , making H2/3/4 ports to X1 would be approaching new game dev time.
Fried Food
Banned
Good on Phil for responding to all the whining.
They really seem to be banking heavy on Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive.
They really seem to be banking heavy on Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive.
But why would he lie about all that, and be so specific about it? I mean he was vindicated on the hardware side, and another thing is, our 343 employee GAF'ers here went dark too even though they were still logged in. A simple laugh post like they've done in the past for rumors and leaks would have shut him down. Instead they didn't even acknowledge it at all.
Who knows how he got this information, but I'm inclined to believe him now.
The Tomb raider port was more than just a straight up HD port though, which is what ntkrnl was implying the Halo 3 and 4 ports would be.
Possible that a strategic memo went out to some high profile staffers and this guy was essentially reading off the road map. Indeed, it wouldn't be too hard to narrow it down considering how absurdly specific the details are. He knew exact details of betas 11 months out, of collector's editions with their specific contents, of SKUs and tentative dates for games coming out in 2016. It's like surgeon precision here. I hope our man is as good a hider as cboat has been over the decade.
I would support such a Kickstarter, even though I think his case would be pretty cut-and-dry and therefore bleak. But I'd like him to know he would have the support of the community in that event, I hope. These are our people, and in some small way they have contributed both to the growth of the community and part of why we're so tight knit: cause crazy shit like this can go down at any time. I want to support members who made that version of GAF possible.
intheinbetween
Member
yes you're right, but I can't help but feel many people think that way, like if everything this guy leaked is all MS has in store for XB1.
I think they'll probably stick with no comments however considering the size of it I'm not so sure.
It's probably that or not comment until they find out who was responsible.
I would laugh so hard if ntkrnl was like some janitor working at Microsoft and one day while cleaning Phil Spencer's office he came across their 3 year road map.
C'mon guys we still falling for this? The proof is in the pudding as the saying goes.
I mean this leaker ntlkrnl said this will all be coming out late Feb/Early March. And Spencer made a comment about how something was going down March 9 well before any of these leaks started happening. So it's possible they were already planning some event to boost morale for the system that would have had at least some of this info. If that is the case, they may choose to simply move up that shit and let us in on the stuff they were going to share with us March 9 right now. Alternatively they might say "not comment on rumours and speculation", which would be as good as confirming it anyway in PR speak, so we'd just have to be patient then
inthebetween said:
Some insiders said this was literally their entire ballgame of announcements up through E3 this year, so it does seem at least to be a significant portion of what they had planned to share with us this year.
plasmawave
Banned
They are not going to address it.
Chobel
Member
There's Verge article about it, MS will have to comment on it especially the white xbone.
I mean this leaker ntlkrnl said this will all be coming out late Feb/Early March. And Spencer made a comment about how something was going down March 9 well before any of these leaks started happening. So it's possible they were already planning some event to boost morale for the system that would have had at least some of this info. If that is the case, they may choose to simply move up that shit and let us in on the stuff they were going to share with us March 9 right now. Alternatively they might say "not comment on rumours and speculation", which would be as good as confirming it anyway in PR speak, so we'd just have to be patient then
Link?
I'd have to dig it out of the last topic we had on this since it was a tweet and I can't find the specific tweet at the moment. It was in reference to this event maybe though.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Its odd that they would have a redone halo 2 and then just tack on Halo 3 and 4. Maybe they are just making the story available for Xbox one owners or its just a way to make H2a more desirable. It would be hard for most gamers to pass up on all that halo goodness.
Officerrob
Banned
IGN has now picked-up on some of this:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01...ed-for-retail?abthid=52ea36115a9152cc16000003
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01...ed-for-retail?abthid=52ea36115a9152cc16000003
Well 3 and 4 are from the 360 gen, so they wouldn't need as much rework to look competent for a quick port by default I'd think.
$250 CE would be a pretty easy pass.
dragonelite
Member
Werent there Halo 3 steam edition rumors last year.
So there is at least some smoke for Halo 3 running on a x86 platform.
If there is an pc version then an X1 version doesn't seems so far.
But time will tell might actually get the Warcollection if true
graywolf323
Member
odd that they wouldn't just throw in Halo 1 Anniversary too and make it complete
Ol No Bones
Banned
Overall this is bad for MS because announcements are so critical to this industry. GAF is going to be very boring at e3 for sure.
microsofts e3 that is.
microsofts e3 that is.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
Right. I really don't want to offend our "high profile leakers", but other than CBOAT's their track records are spotty at best. Their confused reactions to last night's leaks speak for themselves.
That said, I also believe that in terms of big hitters that's pretty much it for Microsoft's 2014, but that's only because the leaks cover pretty much all of their biggest franchises except for Gears (which has just been assigned a new developer) and Kinect Sports (which has a new entry coming out before E3; I won't count Dance Central as Microsoft's franchise). I still expect some surprises in terms of new high profile IPs, and several smaller titles, perhaps some returning cult favorites.
Chobel
Member
MS will have to comment about this now.
Officerrob
Banned
Meh, announcements are only half the battle, we still have yet to see these games. Fantastic looking live gameplay demos would go a LONG way
Ol No Bones
Banned
Very true.
I think the leaker said the War Collection was $100, base game $40 I think. I'll look through the thread and try and find it.
edit: Here it is. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=98911052&postcount=2443
Not really confirmation. $120 might be a more realistic, though.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Well its absolutely amazing to me how influential GAF has been these days especially concerning the Xbox brand lol.
I woke up to some crazy stuff. So the ntkrnl guy wasn't doing a controlled leak?
Ol No Bones
Banned
They must know who he is because there can't be that many people privy to that info.
Yep, and some of these insiders are very vain and would certainly like to get in on all the action by saying things such as, "Oh hey, I've heard all of this stuff too. Listen to me too. I know stuff too. Please."
Hm... so if they planned to release that stuff in March already, then maybe the press already got some assets and that's where the leak origins? That would also explain why major outlets report on those rumors because they know they are true.
It's important to note that major outlets (Verge, Polygon, Engadget) are only really reporting the white Xbox One, the possible disc-less Xbox One, and the Titanfall bundle as news. They all skipped the games related content.
All leakers have downs and ups, it's the nature of the beast. Leaks are highly dangerous since everything is subject to change. famousmortimer's track record has been quite good, and even rivals cboat's record this year. He's still a second hand source, but I have no reason to doubt him given I know more of the details on how he knows what he does on this specific subject. I understand for others it may not be as simple as that since they do not know.
I mean I expect them to pull some things out of their hat NOW because if it is true that this is what they were going to reveal up to E3 (and it's perfectly plausible... this was a LOT of stuff by any E3 conference standards, even if it wasn't completely unpredictable) they obviously still want to have surprises. So it may have forced their hand a bit on that score. Which is fine by me, earlier access to the information I have to make my future decisions easier!
Edit: Also, most of these leaks were first party or exclusive related, and Microsoft loves their third party partnerships, so a lot of the unknown surprises could come in that form.
Well the only option left that we haven't fully explored is that maybe ntkrnl was fed this information and didn't realize he was being used to leak just this information, but I don't think anyone wants to really go down that path given how everything else has checked out and the other insiders now saying Microsoft is actively trying to pursue this leaker with legal repercussions.
So I think we're all settled into supporting our leaker completely now
All leakers are vain in some way. But especially in the case of famousmortimer, he has demonstrated he wants his reputation to mean something, and usually doubles and triple verifies his sources before confirming or posting something. Until his behavior or leaks indicate otherwise, I will continue to put substantial merit into what he says as a highlight.
The Brute Force trademark in association with games software from Microsoft was not renewed. But they could easily get it back if they wanted to.
Can we talk about Horizon 2 in a new thread if a media outlet has picked it up?
Link?
I'm perfectly happy to talk Horizon 2. Horizon 1 is one of my favourite games...
Don't really think there's any point of making a new thread about it or anything though, considering one lists NeoGAF as the source and the other lists the first as their source.
Japanmanx3
Member
Quite frankly.
Remember, Nintendo released Metroid Prime Trilogy, which was the newest game (Metroid Prime 3) and it included Metroid Prime 1 and 2, with reworked controls for the wiimote. And they sold that for the price of one normal game. Now, keeping that in mind, it seems not too far fetched that MS would do a moderately substantial remake for Halo 2, and then include quick upscaled versions of 3/4.
TheRealTalker
Banned
ign also picked up last nights crazy GAF thread
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/01/30/halo-2-anniversary-rumoured-for-xbox-one-release
the thread should be archived especially the insanity we suffered near the end
lack of sleep is to blame
I thought he was, but famousmortimer says on twitter that ms is PISSED and wants to press charges on whoever the leaker is.
gaming_noob
Member
I feel bad for not trusting ntkrnl if he trully isn't an MS plant.
But you don't go leaking THIS amount of info at once. At the very least, you give this info to another leaker like CBOAT, famousmortimer or whoever.
Also what's with gopherd's comment. Seems like that's what set everyone off and it meant absolutely nothing. Of course all he really did was put the word "leaks" in quotations and a smiley face.
I'm gonna go ahead and say that until CBOAT posts - he is not okay.
But you don't go leaking THIS amount of info at once. At the very least, you give this info to another leaker like CBOAT, famousmortimer or whoever.
Also what's with gopherd's comment. Seems like that's what set everyone off and it meant absolutely nothing. Of course all he really did was put the word "leaks" in quotations and a smiley face.
I'm gonna go ahead and say that until CBOAT posts - he is not okay.
Mort said Cboat is fine, and thuway retweeted it. Not taking that as gospel exactly, but I think that is a decent confirmation.
On the other hand, ntkernl might have diverted attention from CBOAT, as this new leaker's leaks are pretty intense and detailed. In some way I'm more concerned about that person getting caught.
Daffy Duck
Member
Where's the links to all this info? and also the games with gold starting in April for x1?