Autodidact
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If Kid Rock runs for Stabenow's seat, run Dolly Parton for Bob Corker's seat.
Problem solved.
Problem solved.
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PoliGAF 2017 |OT5| The Man In the High Chair
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Wonder what Ben Garrison thinks about him?
Oh he's a (((globalist))).
Wait, they don't like Petraeus now?
What happened to him being so 'unfairly treated'?
I dunno. Ahnold did okay, didn't he?
Not sure about Ventura.
Reagan was pure garbage, though.
ShadowSwordmaster
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Arnold won the governorship in Californa.
Haha this is really good fanfic.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Sure would be nice though if he was a typical representative of the GOP.
Spoiled Milk
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What did he do wrong? I think his failures lie mostly in his first few years when he set the tone wrong.
Finale Fireworker
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Imagine an R.L. Stine-style youth novel titled "Help! Kid Rock is my Dad!"
With a chilling logline on the lower-center cover that says "...and he's running for senator!"
If anyone thinks this is threadworthy and wants to make one then feel free, I'm on mobile.
I personally believe GOP will be relentless and will stop just short of illegality to repeal.
Politico | Senate Republicans consider new health care repeal effort
I personally believe GOP will be relentless and will stop just short of illegality to repeal.
Politico | Senate Republicans consider new health care repeal effort
balladofwindfishes
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It already has a thread
ShadowSwordmaster
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Aaron Strife
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Ventura is basically Trump without the bigotry, he didn't accomplish shit.
Schwarzenegger was also terrible and his only real legacy was needlessly blockading progress.
balladofwindfishes
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It's also not going anywhere
Even that article wasn't convinced it was anything.
Even that article wasn't convinced it was anything.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Yeah. McCain's already gone back to AZ with Collins and Murkowski seeming like hard 'no's.
cartoon_soldier
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Chris is right on point here and it stands true for 2020
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Yeah, but as I discussed several pages ago, he is not pushing a moderate to liberal economic policy. Those voters will not be as enthusiastic next time; they bought into both his racism AND false economic policy.
Of course, this is all assuming that he makes it to 2020.
If he gets pushed out, the 2020 election will be a pointless endeavor, as the Dem will win pretty much regardless of who it is.
Honestly, we need to figure out what Dems should do before 2024, that's going to be the real test after the GOP regroups, and if they still push a unabashed racist with fake liberal economic plans (and if that would even work again), or moderate.
BlastProcessing
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Electric Eye
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"Arnold did ok"
WTF. Some of you either don't live in California or don't know wtf you're talking about. HE WAS HORRIBLE a complete typical Republican rubber stamper that was unable to get a state budget, destroyed our economy and we where bleeding jobs and services for the poor. Things got so bad it's why the republicans got destroyed in congress, we now have a dem majority, a balanced budget and a governor that should be president. It's why even to this day we are able to pass tax increases despite bitching and whining by tax payers (like me 😖
because we whent so long with out tax revenue and as soon as we flipped congress and the governorship blue and implemented tax plans we fixed a lot of the problem. People get it now the only assholes that still bitch about taxes are the usual GOP dickheads that destroyed the state in the beginning.
WTF. Some of you either don't live in California or don't know wtf you're talking about. HE WAS HORRIBLE a complete typical Republican rubber stamper that was unable to get a state budget, destroyed our economy and we where bleeding jobs and services for the poor. Things got so bad it's why the republicans got destroyed in congress, we now have a dem majority, a balanced budget and a governor that should be president. It's why even to this day we are able to pass tax increases despite bitching and whining by tax payers (like me 😖
because we whent so long with out tax revenue and as soon as we flipped congress and the governorship blue and implemented tax plans we fixed a lot of the problem. People get it now the only assholes that still bitch about taxes are the usual GOP dickheads that destroyed the state in the beginning.shockthrill
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Trump still a moron?
RustyNails
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So if Mandate is off the table, and so is defunding PP/social security/medicaid, what would a repeal/replace look like now?
I think someone mentioned that the grand GOP plan will essentially boil down to Medical equipment tax repeal and its looking more like it.
I think someone mentioned that the grand GOP plan will essentially boil down to Medical equipment tax repeal and its looking more like it.
ShadowSwordmaster
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He has always been a moron.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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McCain is in Arizona for the next six weeks getting chemo.
Murkowski and Collins won't vote for any of these bills.
Just chill for six weeks, Trump.
Murkowski and Collins won't vote for any of these bills.
Just chill for six weeks, Trump.
ErasureAcer
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Have the hackers in Nevada getting into election machines been talked about yet? Wonder how many elections have been stolen.
No. Where is this from?
AntraxSuicide
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I've been thinking about why racists outside of the South seem to choose economics over their racism when Southerners don't, and I think it's because the South has always sucked. So the option here is "Bet on possible better circumstances in exchange for losing white supremacy", which they don't want. While the options up north are "Bet on possible white supremacy in exchange for losing your economic success."
gutter_trash
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You're overthinking it,
They vote out of spite and hate
But this is largely known. The Unions' grip on the white working class and ability to "whip" their votes for Democrats despite their social conservatism weakened with the unions themselves.
White people of any region have never been particularly accepting of Blacks (no Southern state ever had a law like Oregon's that banned all black people from living there), but white working class northerners have been willing to share the big tent with them for their own ends until recently.
Autodidact
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Yep. It's a minor tweak on which parties agree, it wouldn't change the fundamental structure of the ACA or crash the markets, and it would give Trump a slight "win" that he could then exaggerate.
ErasureAcer
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http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_597ca139e4b02a4ebb75c134
It notes that some hacks would be noted byvelecrion officiala but there are and have been foreign adversaries in this nation who could be manning those ships.
Also you don't blow up a filibuster to do a medical device tax, so it's something you can try to get to 60 on at least.
Spoiled Milk
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I think you don't know what you're talking about. Schwarzeneggar was unable to pass budgets because the budget system was so fucked to begin with. As far as I know, we were one of the only states, if not the only state, in the union to require two-thirds majority to pass budgets and taxes. That's insanity. It cripples the government's ability to handle crises like the recession. He tried to cut a little spending and raise a little tax revenue. Democrats refused to cut revenue and Republicans refused to raise taxes. And it absolutely didn't help that Schwarzeneggar had burned so many bridges in Sacramento and made an arch nemesis out of Darrell Steinberg. I wish he hadn't come in like the swaggering musclehead he was inevitably going to be, but there's not much you can do to stop popular revolt at the polls."Arnold did ok"
WTF. Some of you either don't live in California or don't know wtf you're talking about. HE WAS HORRIBLE a complete typical Republican rubber stamper that was unable to get a state budget, destroyed our economy and we where bleeding jobs and services for the poor. Things got so bad it's why the republicans got destroyed in congress, we now have a dem majority, a balanced budget and a governor that should be president. It's why even to this day we are able to pass tax increases despite bitching and whining by tax payers (like me 😖
For his diplomatic failures as governor he's still responsible for the redistricting success that kicked out so many of those Republicans you're so sick of by getting rid of gerrymandering.
But anyway it's just funny to me people praise Jerry Brown for raising taxes and cutting spending when the former governor tried to do the same. The only difference is that one of them only has a 50% hurdle to jump over instead of 66%.
There was a post about a hacker convention where they got into a voting machine in an hour (I think?). Going to have to rewind a few pages.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Unless the Republican Senators are total quitters, Repeal & Replace is not dead! Demand another vote before voting on any other bill!
4:36 PM · Jul 29, 2017
These people won't stop until there are literally corpses on the capitol grounds, and even then they will keep going, most likely.
Unless the Republican Senators are total quitters, Repeal & Replace is not dead! Demand another vote before voting on any other bill!
4:36 PM · Jul 29, 2017
These people won't stop until there are literally corpses on the capitol grounds, and even then they will keep going, most likely.
Spoiled Milk
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A lot of the PLUTOCRATS here talk shit about our ballot system but I think it's ok :S
CA having strong referendums and being a NIMBY nightmare go hand in hand.
GoldenEye 007
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The House is also in recess, right? And I know Rand Paul voiced an objection, but McConnell already set aside healthcare and moved onto defense, I thought.
Autodidact
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I wonder how long McCain can remain. At his age and in his condition, I imagine he'll deteriorate rather quickly.
Not to sound calculating, but I wouldn't be offended if he held the seat as long as possible. The longer he stays, the less time a replacement has to ingratiate him- or herself with voters before election day, making one of the AZ seats effectively open.
Oh, and I thought I'd repost some discussion points I raised last night while everyone slept. Feel free to respond to them or ignore them, whichever tickles your fancies:
Not to sound calculating, but I wouldn't be offended if he held the seat as long as possible. The longer he stays, the less time a replacement has to ingratiate him- or herself with voters before election day, making one of the AZ seats effectively open.
Oh, and I thought I'd repost some discussion points I raised last night while everyone slept. Feel free to respond to them or ignore them, whichever tickles your fancies:
skullmuffins
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True. Leaving right before the midterms would be "best". And if he holds onto his seat while being out of DC often for treatment, it'll be hard for Republicans to accomplish anything too terrible.
Nydius
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Since there's some discussion of governorships going on, I just wanted to throw some thoughts out here.
Been catching up on the latest here in Virginia and the polls for the upcoming general election between Gillespie (R) and Northam (D) have been tightening. In two polls - Monmouth and Christopher Newport University - it's a dead heat. Some have Northam just above the margin of error.
I've been warning folks in my neighborhood not to get complacent. Virginia is not as blue as people would like to think. We're decidedly purple with the color balance skewed toward red more than blue. Outside of Northern Virginia, Richmond Metro, Charlottesville, and parts of Hampton Roads the bulk of the state is still VERY red.
Gillespie is smartly running ads that avoids bringing up his party affiliation. It doesn't mention Trump and doesn't even mention Bush as Gillespie discusses becoming an adviser to the President. Based on the ads alone, people not familiar with the race wouldn't be able to tell which party he's representing. He's also spending more on ad buys and utilizing more social media presence than Northam. Northam spent a lot of his money to win the Democratic primary while Gillespie sat on most of his cash anticipating winning Republican primary. As a result, it feels a lot like Northam has his campaign on cruise control based on anti-Trump sentiment while Gillespie is out there spending and traversing the state.
We recently just had the first of three debates and I don't think either candidate "won", largely because it became too much of a referendum on National politics rather than State politics and the questions asked about state issues were answered with typical Democrat or Republican bullet points. I hope the second debate in September is better.
Given 2016's flustercuck, I don't put too much stock in polls anymore but with the race being this close right now turnout in the major metro areas will be key. If turnout is too low, Gillespie can win - and if he wins, that puts Virginia in the same boat as the Federal Government, with a GOP majority across all branches of Government.
Been catching up on the latest here in Virginia and the polls for the upcoming general election between Gillespie (R) and Northam (D) have been tightening. In two polls - Monmouth and Christopher Newport University - it's a dead heat. Some have Northam just above the margin of error.
I've been warning folks in my neighborhood not to get complacent. Virginia is not as blue as people would like to think. We're decidedly purple with the color balance skewed toward red more than blue. Outside of Northern Virginia, Richmond Metro, Charlottesville, and parts of Hampton Roads the bulk of the state is still VERY red.
Gillespie is smartly running ads that avoids bringing up his party affiliation. It doesn't mention Trump and doesn't even mention Bush as Gillespie discusses becoming an adviser to the President. Based on the ads alone, people not familiar with the race wouldn't be able to tell which party he's representing. He's also spending more on ad buys and utilizing more social media presence than Northam. Northam spent a lot of his money to win the Democratic primary while Gillespie sat on most of his cash anticipating winning Republican primary. As a result, it feels a lot like Northam has his campaign on cruise control based on anti-Trump sentiment while Gillespie is out there spending and traversing the state.
We recently just had the first of three debates and I don't think either candidate "won", largely because it became too much of a referendum on National politics rather than State politics and the questions asked about state issues were answered with typical Democrat or Republican bullet points. I hope the second debate in September is better.
Given 2016's flustercuck, I don't put too much stock in polls anymore but with the race being this close right now turnout in the major metro areas will be key. If turnout is too low, Gillespie can win - and if he wins, that puts Virginia in the same boat as the Federal Government, with a GOP majority across all branches of Government.
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