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[marrec]

Bullshit lawsuit and award. Not suprised it's Texas.

I don't give a shit for Luckey. He's horrible. But I can't stand for this BS ruling.

If Lucky did break NDA then this seems like a reasonable resolution.

 

[keraj37]

They originally asked for 2 billion and got 500 million. It's a shit ton of money but I wonder if they are satisfied only getting 500m

Actually they asked for 4 billion.

 

[poodaddy]

Wish they would of won at least two bil to really jab Facebook in the wallet but I'm glad Zenimax pulled the V though. Fuck Luckey and fuck Facebook, bigoted fucks.

 

[Justin Bailey]

For anyone saying that Zenimax didn't get what they wanted because they asked for 4 Billion - lawyers ask for the absolute maximum amount they can without being tossed out of court for it, so they never think they're actually going to get it. 500 mil ain't no joke and Zenimax is cheering right now.

 

[HellBlazer]

Hmm, so Oculus didn't misappropriate trade secrets, but they still have to pay...?

Of the $500 million, Oculus is paying out $200 million for breaking the NDA and $50 million for copyright infringement. Oculus and Luckey each have to pay $50 million for false designation. And Iribe has to pay $150 million for the same, final count.

OK but... what NDA? What copyright? What false designation? I don't understand what they're guilty of exactly.

 

[OverBlood 3]

If that barefooted prick has any friends left at that company I'd be shocked.

 

[mnz]

Palmer is at fault for breaking a non-disclosure agreement with Zenimax according to the decision.

And when did they sign this? And what does it entail?

 

[Basileus777]

Hmm, so Oculus didn't misappropriate trade secrets, but they still have to pay...?



OK but... what NDA? What copyright? What false designation? I don't understand what they're guilty of exactly.

Story was put up quickly and they've been updating it. I'd expect more details to come out soon.

 

[Ocaso]

How is anyone saying this isn't a ridiculous amount of money? It's $500 million! You could give $1 million to every person in America from that and have money over $100 million left over. It's a colossal victory for Zenimax, particularly given how vehemently and smugly Facebook argued against any wrongdoing and how they likely overvalued Oculus initially.

 

[K.Sabot]

well congrats to zenimax for getting the pay day you most likely didn't deserve.

 

[Dreamwriter]

This is crazy, as far as I can figure out the NDA Palmer Luckey broke was showing off Doom 3 BFG running in VR. The thing is, that was *after* John Carmack had already shown it off to the press at a trade show. While OK, that may be considered breaking the NDA (though Palmer Luckey obviously thought it would be OK since the public had already seen it), it's such an edge case $500 million seems quite a bit of overkill to me. Unless Zenimax proved they lost $500 million worth of value by that act...

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Hmm, so Oculus didn't misappropriate trade secrets, but they still have to pay...?



OK but... what NDA? What copyright? What false designation? I don't understand what they're guilty of exactly.

It doesn't matter anymore. Just let it go. Palmer fucked up.

 

[dreamfall]

Wish it was more.

 

[Nzyme32]

I think that has actually worked out quite well for Oculus / Facebook vs Zenimax's original claim

 

[Vandole]

How is anyone saying this isn't a ridiculous amount of money? It's $500 million! You could give $1 million to every person in America from that and have money over $100 million left over. It's a colossal victory for Zenimax, particularly given how vehemently and smugly Facebook argued against any wrongdoing and how they likely overvalued Oculus initially.

Math isn't your strong suit is it?

 

[Straight Edge]

And their lawyer will keep 1/3.

 

[Jigorath]

Seems like Oculus got off light here.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

How is anyone saying this isn't a ridiculous amount of money? It's $500 million! You could give $1 million to every person in America from that and have money over $100 million left over. It's a colossal victory for Zenimax, particularly given how vehemently and smugly Facebook argued against any wrongdoing and how they likely overvalued Oculus initially.

Lol what!?

 

[Seiru]

I'm glad Zenimax got called out on their bullshit, but what fucking NDA is worth $500 million..?

 

[jimmypop]

Math isn't your strong suit is it?

There are only 350 people in America. The rest are sentient bots. Let the guessing games begin!

 

[pswii60]

Maybe with this money they can make the next Elder Scrolls game less janky.

 

[Seiru]

Seems like Oculus got off light here.

It's $500 million for a breach of NDA so small that we don't even know what the hell it is, that doesn't seem light to me

 

[KiefbladeMaster]

I thought most accusations were towards Carmack misappropriating trade secrets, so why is Luckey getting the blame?

Figured this would rule in Zeni's favor.

 

[ChrisMahoney]

I'm glad Zenimax got called out on their bullshit, but what fucking NDA is worth $500 million..?

Especially an NDA with Palmer. What secrets did Palmer leak out??? Doom 3 VR? lmao 500 mill for that

 

[Vyse The Legend]

Hopefully, Facebook foots the bill using Palmer's stock options.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Especially an NDA with Palmer. What secrets did Palmer leak out??? Doom 3 VR? lmao 500 mill for that

NDA is NDA bro. Add all the other allegations and this is Facebook willing to settle this swiftly.

 

[BobLoblaw]

I'll take it. Fuck you, Oculus. Suck it, Zuckerberg.

 

[True Fire]

Palmer Luckey continues to be a costly mistake for Facebook

 

[Obliterator]

How is anyone saying this isn't a ridiculous amount of money? It's $500 million! You could give $1 million to every person in America from that and have money over $100 million left over. It's a colossal victory for Zenimax, particularly given how vehemently and smugly Facebook argued against any wrongdoing and how they likely overvalued Oculus initially.

What on Earth?

 

[True Fire]

How is anyone saying this isn't a ridiculous amount of money? It's $500 million! You could give $1 million to every person in America from that and have money over $100 million left over. It's a colossal victory for Zenimax, particularly given how vehemently and smugly Facebook argued against any wrongdoing and how they likely overvalued Oculus initially.

 

[Basileus777]

It's $500 million for a breach of NDA so small that we don't even know what the hell it is, that doesn't seem light to me

Only $200 million seems to be from the NDA.

 

[Mechanical Snowman]

How is anyone saying this isn't a ridiculous amount of money? It's $500 million! You could give $1 million to every person in America from that and have money over $100 million left over. It's a colossal victory for Zenimax, particularly given how vehemently and smugly Facebook argued against any wrongdoing and how they likely overvalued Oculus initially.

NeoGAF needs to bring back the laughing smiley just for this post.

 

[Pathfinder]

How is anyone saying this isn't a ridiculous amount of money? It's $500 million! You could give $1 million to every person in America from that and have money over $100 million left over. It's a colossal victory for Zenimax, particularly given how vehemently and smugly Facebook argued against any wrongdoing and how they likely overvalued Oculus initially.

 

[msdstc]

How is anyone saying this isn't a ridiculous amount of money? It's $500 million! You could give $1 million to every person in America from that and have money over $100 million left over. It's a colossal victory for Zenimax, particularly given how vehemently and smugly Facebook argued against any wrongdoing and how they likely overvalued Oculus initially.

Lmao this is a joke right? Is America's population 399 people? Damn I thought it was at least 500.

 

[keraj37]

I am just thinking... They should create special $500 million budget for fixing bugs in Elder Scrolls VI and Fallout 5. Yep, that is what they should do.

 

[marrec]

Lmao this is a joke right? Is America's population 399 people? Damn I thought it was at least 500.

There's only 399 people in America that matter and I get to choose them to distribute ZeniMax's settlement and I DO take bribes and flattery.

 

[Alienous]

How is anyone saying this isn't a ridiculous amount of money? It's $500 million! You could give $1 million to every person in America from that and have money over $100 million left over. It's a colossal victory for Zenimax, particularly given how vehemently and smugly Facebook argued against any wrongdoing and how they likely overvalued Oculus initially.

 

[AirPowerFTW]

As gamers here on GAF I don't understand the vitriol towards Oculus, how is the wishing for the failure of a critical player in the VR space a good thing?

I understand not liking Palmer for some of his extra-curricular views, but Oculus and FB have - as far as I recall - specifically distanced themselves from those views and largely from Palmer.

I'm just glad this didn't (fingers crossed) bury Oculus and one third of the VR industry right now.

 

[Wollan]

Which part of the payout does John Carmack fall under (if any) ?
Iribe must not have played clean considering the $150m from his part alone.

 

[Lifeline]

How is anyone saying this isn't a ridiculous amount of money? It's $500 million! You could give $1 million to every person in America from that and have money over $100 million left over. It's a colossal victory for Zenimax, particularly given how vehemently and smugly Facebook argued against any wrongdoing and how they likely overvalued Oculus initially.

Guys it's obviously a reference to that one meme.

 

[Obliterator]

How is anyone saying this isn't a ridiculous amount of money? It's $500 million! You could give $1 million to every person in America from that and have money over $100 million left over. It's a colossal victory for Zenimax, particularly given how vehemently and smugly Facebook argued against any wrongdoing and how they likely overvalued Oculus initially.

 

[neilyadig]

meanwhile, every publication is breaking the news that FB revenue has jumped 51%

I know its earnings today and probably just funny timing but what will people be talking about? we know people can't focus on two things at once.

screenshot:

 

[vinnygambini]

In turn, Facebook will just write-down the value of the asset and get tax credit.

 

[gnexus]

Crooked Palmer. LOCK HIM UP

 

[Peltz]

Oculus got off relatively lightly considering just how much ZeniMax was asking for.

That said for a company like ZeniMax $500 million is a massive cash influx for them. They can do a hell of a lot with that kind of money.

You always high-ball the damages you want. Chances are this was a total victory for ZM.

How is anyone saying this isn't a ridiculous amount of money? It's $500 million! You could give $1 million to every person in America from that and have money over $100 million left over. It's a colossal victory for Zenimax, particularly given how vehemently and smugly Facebook argued against any wrongdoing and how they likely overvalued Oculus initially.

 

[Mr. Tibbs]

Here's a good summary of the claims and the resolution for those interested:

Luckey will personally have to pay $50 million in the suit, while former Oculus CEO Brendan Iribe will be forced to pay $150 million.

 

[Jumeira]

I can't stand Palmer, he's a piece of shit.

 

[Acosta]

So Carmack did nothing wrong (as everyone expected).

It just was Luckey incompetence.

 

[Alienous]

As gamers here on GAF I don't understand the vitriol towards Oculus, how is the wishing for the failure of a critical player in the VR space a good thing?

I understand not liking Palmer for some of his extra-curricular views, but Oculus and FB have - as far as I recall - specifically distanced themselves from those views and largely from Palmer.

I'm just glad this didn't (fingers crossed) bury Oculus and one third of the VR industry right now.

It seems like VR is much bigger that Oculus now anyway. They pioneered it but it isn't hard to imagine VR thriving in their absence, not that I want them to fail.

 

[Obliterator]

You always high-ball the damages you want. Chances are this was a total victory for ZM.

Without a doubt. ZM just got awarded 1/3 of their current Net Worth in a lump sum