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Polygon: Why Spike is hitting the reset button on its video game awards
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A game from 2008 beating a game from 2013 for GOTY would indeed be bullshit.
Exactly.
Unfortunately, I doubt that even half of the judges have even played TLoU. I know several of those guys definitely didn't. And then there are 3 judges from Polygon lol.
When some time has passed and we look back at 2013 and at the remarkable and influential games were released that year, we will be talking about TloU and not GTAV.
The Last of Us is the game of the year, but I'm preparing myself for the "denial" stage right now. GTA V's plot stumbles and trips all over itself to such a disappointing conclusion, maybe any other year the gameplay alone would have been enough to make it still the best GOTY, but in this, the year of The Last of Us, I just can't accept it.
And it's so strange for me to say all this, because GTA V is still, easily, one of my Top 5 games of the entire generation but... I mean... The Last of Us, man... The Last of Us. It was so head and shoulders above anything else.
simplythebest
Banned
If not at VGX then maybe it'll win Polygon's GOTY awards
If one of those judges happens to be named Arthur then it def ain't winning shit
Granted, it could also be for studio of the year, but yeah. Nice job, Spike.
Frankly, I found the old VGAs entertaining, in a "train wreck of an attempt to generalize/appeal to gamers and gaming" sort of way. I'm glad that they're moving away from that, though, hope it works out for them.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I may watch just for mchale... dude is very funny and an interesting person
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Deleted member 80556
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I am still wondering what R* North thought when they were planning the story of the game. It started well, but damn at the end it just seemed they didn't know what to do with it.
Not because of the terrible it was to us, but how it represented the industry. The Chuck actor saying how he was a giant nerd because he played videogames was just an example of how general population views 'gamers'.
I am in the same position as you, but when I wondered what people who are not core gamers thought, I really realized that the show was really filled with stereotypes. "Gamers are nerds", "we teabag those who are thoughtful!", etc.
The way some of guys talk make it sound like the VGAs can be used as a form of torture. I mean come on, yea they do dumb shit on stage, but do some of you have such thin skins that you can't even tolerate it?
I find much of that crap cringeworthy all the same, but I don't even let it get to me because I love seeing new trailers and new games get revealed. Bunch of drama queens in here
Not because of the terrible it was to us, but how it represented the industry. The Chuck actor saying how he was a giant nerd because he played videogames was just an example of how general population views 'gamers'.
I am in the same position as you, but when I wondered what people who are not core gamers thought, I really realized that the show was really filled with stereotypes. "Gamers are nerds", "we teabag those who are thoughtful!", etc.
It's not like every positive critical response and sale is going to be taken away from The Last of Us if it doesn't win GOTY. Besides, the true GOTY is Metal Gear Rising or The Wonderful 101(based on what I've heard and read), being bummed out about a really successful game beating another really successful game is so lame.
It's a sad day when we discard a game from being goty because its story wasn't very good.
Not when over half the game is cutscenes and driving around listening to people talk.
cj_iwakura
Member
Sounds like they finally have the right idea. Good for them.
I hope it pays off.
I hope it pays off.
We're talking about the same awards show that gave The Walking Dead the GOTY 2012, based purely 100% on its story.
My point is, The Last of Us has great gameplay and a great story, while GTA V has great gameplay and a shit story, so obviously TLoU > GTA V, in my mind.
I wasn't talking about the last of us.
antitrop said:
2012 was the weakest year in gaming history so I can't fault anyone for that. There wasn't much else to choose from.
Neither was I............The Last of Us had a good story and great intense gameplay.
GTAV is great, no doubt... but having it beat The Last of Us for GOTY would be a travesty and a sham.
The formula for GTA is already established, and they're done well with it. In a year with similarly safe contenders it'd make a fine GOTY. But TLOU is a wholly original/new IP, brings a lot of great new things to the table along with a captivating narrative and memorable characters, and in every way imaginable deserves to win. Hell, who ever expected it'd have such a fantastic and unique multiplayer rather than simply being an afterthought?
I hope the news of the entire Rockstar team being there doesn't mean what I think it means =/
The formula for GTA is already established, and they're done well with it. In a year with similarly safe contenders it'd make a fine GOTY. But TLOU is a wholly original/new IP, brings a lot of great new things to the table along with a captivating narrative and memorable characters, and in every way imaginable deserves to win. Hell, who ever expected it'd have such a fantastic and unique multiplayer rather than simply being an afterthought?
I hope the news of the entire Rockstar team being there doesn't mean what I think it means =/
I really hope your videogame tastes are verified at a Spike TV awards show.
Hurricane43
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R* entire dev team accepts the award, "And GTAV on PC, PS4, XBone coming Spring 2014," drops mic and all walk off stage or Bust....
Oh so you were knocking another game for being "half cutscenes" while propping up a game that likely IS half cutscenes and other non interactive parts.
Thats literally the only time R actually shows up for something is when they are winning an award.
RedNumberFive
Banned
Don't they say this every year? And then every year it's the same shit show?
No, this one is actually radically different if you take the time to read.
Not televised live, instead its a 3hr pre recorded stream without all of the B list celebs from years past. It's more like a long ass episode of GTTV with awards sprinkled in, and actual reveals and new trailers.
Gherid__lacksGPS
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Posting via phone is Bullshit, too. :/
And GTA V has really fun characters and excellent gameplay. One winning over the other shouldn't be some sort of grand bummer.
Yeah, how was GTA Online?
No I'm knocking the game that in my opinion didn't have as enjoyable cutscenes and dialogue and didnt get me invested in it. Also enjoyed The Last of Us gameplay more than GTA 5. If some people enjoyed the story stuff in GTA 5 all the power to them, this is just my opinion and what I enjoyed. If I was voting I would go with The Last of Us. Its the best game I have played since Resident Evil 4.
GrumpyOutlander
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I think GTAV would be my Game of the generation, but I feel something like Red Dead offers a similar experience. The Last of Us was a very unique experience. I wouldn't mind either one winning GOTY, honestly.
SeventhSon
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Interested in seeing what will really be different.
I didn't really mind watching a stoned-as-fuck Jessica Alba get up and announce Dark Souls II to the world, but each to their own.
They pretty much just spoiled it.
He said all devs made acceptance videos and only said the GOTY would have a live acceptance... then said the Rockstar team would be flying in lol.
GrumpyOutlander
Member
It's basically streaming everywhere this year instead of being on cable. I PS3, Steam, 360, and Xbox One will have a stream as well as most gaming websites.
SirCrush
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3 from Polygon does not bode well for TLOU.
Magic Mushroom
Member
So a Sony surprise then?
It would be a bummer in the same way seeing my favorite hockey team lose in the playoffs is a bummer.
Well now you're making me hope Tomb Raider wins GOTY.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
I always try and watch, but I usually have to turn it off because I usually find it embarrassing that's what a TV show thinks gamers are nowadays.
Or maybe I'm old and cranky and they're going for the kind of people who gleefully stay in public chat during a COD match.
Or maybe I'm old and cranky and they're going for the kind of people who gleefully stay in public chat during a COD match.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Ewwww GTAV won? Oh well...
On the Bonus Round, all of the panelists (who also have voting power at the VGX), admitted that BioShock Infinite's gameplay was lackluster. That after time had passed, the game had soured on them (from a gameplay aspect). BUT because the story and world design was so fantastic, it deserved to be on the GOTY category.
My opinion on BI is exactly the opposite, I really enjoyed the gunplay, using the Vigors, and riding the Skyrails in combat, but felt the story fell dreadfully short of being truly great, especially in the closing hours (Vox Populi storyline completely falls apart).
I was much more fulfilled by the narrative of Call of Juarez: Gunslinger, even. But I like shooting things, and shooting things in Bioshock Infinite was really fun, so it's still one of my top games of the year.
To be fair on the Bonus Round, 1 of them said it was TLOU for him.
Eh, I actually hated Infinite's gameplay. So I actually agreed with them. I found the game to be a chore to get through because of that and the level design (and how they worked together). That said, just my opinion. I guess the point I was making to Derrick though was that, voters at the VGX believe that a game's story alone is enough to get it nominated.
If this is the criteria they are going with, then a game having a weak story should also be taken into account (when it comes to deciding the winner). So I agree with you, I think the Last of Us had tight gameplay/level design and a really good story. It's more of a full package, compared to GTA. Of course, opinions and such.