RedNumberFive
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It's pretty hard to sugarcoat this story.
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Polygon: Xbox One policy "gross, despicable, greedy, pathetic, cowardly"
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It's pretty hard to sugarcoat this story.
Having a mature headline presenting the facts doesn't require sugar coating anything.
And here i thought he knew better like Angry Joe and Jim Sterling,but i am wrong he absolutly clueless of knowing a difference of a PC and Console.
Microsoft will not change there stance. Look at windows 8. They are still trying to ram it down our throats.
Puppet Shadow
Member
Guess I should eat a bit of crow, as I've given them a hard time lately. Kudos for doing the right thing, Polygon.
flatearthpandas
Member
And here i thought he knew better like Angry Joe and Jim Sterling,but i am wrong he absolutly clueless of knowing a difference of a PC and Console.
I didn't know him until very recently when he took his big stance against being anti- anti-consumer, but he's really fucking up right now.
NullPointer
Member
Hmm. Makes me wonder about the gamecube controller without any buttons.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
He mostly became popular outside of eSports when he rallied against game companies for how ridiculous dlc has gotten. I guess maybe he thinks this will be the solution to the dlc problem.
And here i thought he knew better like Angry Joe and Jim Sterling,but i am wrong he absolutly clueless of knowing a difference of a PC and Console.
Can we stop posting his crap. Its infuriating.
I think we need to accept that chances are, they just noticed which way the wind was blowing and turned to catch it while they could.
With the amount of shit flying around, I really wouldn't be surprised if one of the big publishers went on record to renounce policies like these.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
E3 will really determine the consoles success in the end. If the games look meh, you can expect a whole lot of gamers (including casual ones) just passing on it.
Beermeister
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Nothing1016
Member
http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/06/06/microsoft-details-xbox-one-used-games-always-online
IGN has their article up but it's not really addressing the issues. It's more of a summary of the policies.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Perhaps one of the few good articles from Polygon. I'm actually surprised they even said this.
The list is longer than that.
Majima Everywhere System
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King Beyond the wall
Member
Wow, I thought Polygon were funded by Microsoft? Major betrayal.
'Polygon send their regards'.
'Polygon send their regards'.
Between your other posts here and that avatar of yours, I'm beginning to suspect that the "gamers exemplify cognitive dissonance and purchase the XOne anyway" isn't so much something you're expecting as something you're really hoping will happen.
I really would like to know what you think you stand to gain from a scenario where this kind of DRM becomes the new norm for consoles, since you seem so keen on the idea.
I'm confident that the market will sort it out. PR & marketing alone are not a viable long term strategy. The market only cares about the greater good. It doesn't pick sides or support the small guy. I'm not saying that Microsoft's policies are good or bad. I'm just saying there has to be a benefit to it or they'll fail. There is a difference between terrible marketing/communication and actually weighing the cost/benefits of a value proposition in a product. I'm reserving personal judgement until they show the benefits.
I wasn't around GAF at the time, but I assume there was a similar uproar about the $10 price premium for 360/PS3. In the end that money was invested directly into game quality. Everyone benefited from the increased quality. I'm sure some people still aren't happy about that though.
maquiladora
Member
Polygon is more than one person, this is an opinion piece by one guy that may have very different views from the staff members that were commenting on Sim City etc.
could it be that each game had a different reviewer? well, yes it could. and could it be, that they didn't like the last of us as much as the other reviewers? If I reviewed the last of us, my review would be outside of the mean because i do not like interactive cinematic experiences. would my voice not be worthy? you're the reason we have poor game criticism.
This.
Tell me about it.
I unsubscribed for these very retarded tweets, very disappointed.
And here i thought he knew better like Angry Joe and Jim Sterling,but i am wrong he absolutly clueless of knowing a difference of a PC and Console.
He doesn't really care about console gaming and I'm not sure he ever has.
I still find him to be one of the best channels on youtube.
And here i thought he knew better like Angry Joe and Jim Sterling,but i am wrong he absolutly clueless of knowing a difference of a PC and Console.
I did like him at one point, but it is now plainly clear that he is a childish moron that has acted like a complete hypocrite (like how he attacked people for not caring about a game's FOV, saying that just because it does not affect you does not mean you should ignore that it does others, then he turns around and says that because he does not play old games he should not care about how the xbone affects people that do!)
sonic moob
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This will be the first Microsoft console I definitely will not buy, even 2nd hand, even if Halo on Xbone is incredible. IMO Microsoft couldn't have done much worse if they tried at the reveal. Banning used games is such a bastard idea, I used to buy brand new games with the money I got from trading in my used games. And surely a real football deal with UEFA/FIFA and the Premiership etc would have been a good idea? How many people outside of the US care for American football? It wouldn't make a difference to me because I am just a gamer and don't care about stats.
That may well explain it, I'm not sure he realizes just how much more open PC is in general, and how overboard the X1 is for a closed platform. People would probably be more willing to grumble but accept if it were basically just 360/PS3 with activation codes instead of discs.
Funny how he attacks people all the time on twitter for logical fallacies then defends the xbone with a logical fallacy! (that it is like steam).
And here i thought he knew better like Angry Joe and Jim Sterling,but i am wrong he absolutly clueless of knowing a difference of a PC and Console.
Such a stupid argument. DRM devalues any product by restricting its use. PC games can be purchased for heavy discounts, so the prices reflect that. Give me 1-2 month old AAA titles on the XBOne for $15-30 and I'll gladly take the DRM.
Nah, he's awful.
Entitled to my time... The ego is big on this one
Not only that, Steam is an open platform. You don't need a particular box to play it, and you can download a game an unlimited number of times on any PC, laptop etc, anywhere in the world.
cpp_is_king
Member
Are you sure? Because both of those things, as well as the last of us review, sound to me like "please click this and read it!!!"
we.are.the.armada
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IonicSnake
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Wow... I used to subscribe to his channel but man, Total Biscuit is an ass.
Kun Aguero
Member
I thought polygon were pro MS, why have they suddenly grown a pair? They think the xbone is gonna bomb and they don't wanna go down with it?
ElRenoRaven
Member
I know it's shocking. I used to respect him. Has none from me now.
I unfollowed and unsubbed after those comments. Not only is he wrong, but he was a pompous dick to anyone that tried to have a dialogue with him. Won't support someone like that. Shame because the rest of that crew seems level headed. Thanks to him I found Angry Joe though, So there is a silver lining
this doesn't really change anything so polygon is still a pretty terrible site
i don't really care about their "allegiances," i'm more worried about shit like the sim city debacle. they can have whatever shitty (or, i guess in this case, non-shitty, late) opinions and editorial slant they want. i don't expect news agencies to be impartial, i do expect them to be competent—which polygon clearly isn't.
i don't really care about their "allegiances," i'm more worried about shit like the sim city debacle. they can have whatever shitty (or, i guess in this case, non-shitty, late) opinions and editorial slant they want. i don't expect news agencies to be impartial, i do expect them to be competent—which polygon clearly isn't.
Nah, he's awful.
What an idiot.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Where?