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Project Morpheus E3 2015
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The PC version of part 2 has Rift support and it is fucking bananas! Some of those jumps really produce the "stomach feels". Didn't make me sick or dizzy though, it was perfectly fine and I assume this version will have ifinitely more polish.
BaldusCattus
Neo Member
Gotta hold my hands up, I did the same thing first time I played that one, and I've spent a fair bit more time in a Morpheus than most =)
Like some earlier posters opined, I'm thinking its more likely to have been a reaction to the cleaning wipes or sprays too; the guys running the demo kits keep them meticulously clean. Its hard to imagine that her breathing contributed: the wearer's nose and mouth are way outside the 'gasket' that surrounds the lenses.
yeah read that after I posted, wasn't aware they were cleaning them inbetween. If it was a spray they were using, perhaps they forgot to wipe it down.
FF7 minigame VR trilogy:
Highway Escape
Great Glacier Snowboarding
An Evening With Barret
uuaschbaer
Banned
Thanks! Interesting. (Excellent explanation here, for others like me.)
I had some more questions for all of you guys, for instance:
Why in so many Morpheus demos is the player bound to a chair or some kind of amusement ride? Is there a problem with the player freely walking around using the controller, does it induce nausea? Will this spell the end of VR? (possibly)
As well as:
Do you think casual gamers know that VR is (almost) here? It is my suspicion that a lot of people are already sold on VR in principle, but don't quite realize it is ceasing to be a fantasy in practical terms. (I mean come on it's VR.)
But this is more important:
Will wearing the Morpheus increase, or decrease, a person's sexual appeal? Surely donning yourself in sci-fi sexiness expedites succumbency smoothly.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Man this chick seems really scared in the Capcom Kitchen demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kr6IKnmdkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kr6IKnmdkE
Glorified G
Member
Is Rigs online-multiplayer only?
It does. Here's why:
The vestibular system is the network of fluid-filled cavities in your ears. They detect rotation and linear acceleration of your head. Just like the gyroscopic and inertial sensors in the Wii remote.
Your brain takes all the available sensory data - visual, aural and vestibular - and provides you with a pretty accurate sensation of your motion and rotation. If the visual data and vestibular data don't match then it causes confusion and nausea.
In VR, rotation and movement that's not directly forwards/backwards have proven to be particularly nauseating. So you'll see some on-rails stuff where the "camera" moves forward at a constant speed.
To reduce the nausea, you need a large area of "cockpit" around you that stays still relative to your body, so that your visual system gets at least some data that agrees with your vestibular system.
Neuromancer
Member
I asked one of the developers on Twitter and he said he couldn't say yet. But I am hoping you can play offline against bots.
They said on the live-stream today that they are preparing a really cool singleplayer to be revealed at a later date.
3rdamention
Member
Did anyone post the discussion from Giant Bomb last night with Lorne Lanning, Drake and Jeff Green?
It was all about VR and Lanning was just amazing... He was seriously blowing Drakes mind with the landscape of VR, past and present, issues and positives.....Drake even said "I can listen to you all day" and I agreed.
Lanning had the most intelligent thoughts and discussion about the medium that I have ever heard...
You have to see it if you are interested at all in VR..
It was all about VR and Lanning was just amazing... He was seriously blowing Drakes mind with the landscape of VR, past and present, issues and positives.....Drake even said "I can listen to you all day" and I agreed.
Lanning had the most intelligent thoughts and discussion about the medium that I have ever heard...
You have to see it if you are interested at all in VR..
M_A_C
Member
Amazing that it can elicit that type of reaction.
Which one is that?
EDIT: this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfoq-zBOigM
Glorified G
Member
Horror games are fucking horrifying in VR. There's a 3 chapter demonstration called Affected. Each of the chapters are only around 5 minutes long but sitting there alone playing it I couldn't finish any of them. Can't wait to try some fully fleshed out games. Shit is gonna be sick!
Time for me to buy some cheap PS move controllers before all the used stock is sold out and new sell out also
I need to find mine. No idea where it went. And then likely also buy a second one.
Veritigo_X
Member
Time for me to buy some cheap PS move controllers before all the used stock is sold out and new sell out also
Are they really not updating the Move controller? :/ I feel like it really needs an analog stick. Are games now either using a controller or on rails when using Move?
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Got a link by any chance? I'm not savvy when it comes to Giant Bomb
People need to find a better solution that don't involve rotation I've been told. So holding a button to move forward, or tapping a button to warp somewhere, pulling the screen towards you, rotating the screen by using hand motions etc etc, work great in VR. An analog stick is surprisingly hard to use apparently. Any game simply trying to capitalize on looking around, as in a 3rd person game, you have the dualshock.
interview with Yoshida from a couple days ago, he confirms no updated Move. But, there is also the nav controller, or holding a move, and then a DS4 in the other hand. I did that with KZ3, as I don't have a Nav controller. Not ideal but if you have it resting in your lap, it works.
They use that Move gun with a nav controller in the FPS Morpheus demo.
3rdamention
Member
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ysKExiHQvd4
Lanning, Drake and Green are on at about the 3:10 minute mark... And that is at the 3 hour 10 minute mark...lol, it was that kind of show..
Lanning is even talking about developing games in VR, the hurdles and pitfalls...Lanning was just amazing..
EdReedFan20
Member
Time for me to buy some cheap PS move controllers before all the used stock is sold out and new sell out also
I still have mine (4 moves, 1 nav). Unfortunately, the strap lock on one them them is cracked, so I can't properly secure it to my wrist anymore. Sony does not sell replacement straps (why they don't, I haven't the foggiest) and the knock-off ones are apparently garbage.
Veritigo_X
Member
I was more wondering about first person games, like how a game like Skyrim or Minecraft could work. I guess it would just have to use the nav controller which can't be tracked. I just checked out a video with that Move gun and that looked like something I could use for an FPS. People demoing it seemed to have a good impression
Rice-Eater
Member
What are they seeing in the Kitchen demo? I Google'd and Youtube'd and can't find any video of what the players actually see in the demo.
Neuromancer
Member
PT, played sitting right in front of my crappy 32inch flat screen with Pulse Elites on almost induced presence in me. Something about the sound design most of all and graphics verging on photorealism and just the entire scenario... I struggled to play and really felt fear from that game.
If anything like PT is made for VR to the same level of absolute perfection as that was I genuinely think, as much as I'd like to experience it, that I simply would not go near that game. It would be genuinely terrifying and stressful to play, which can never be good for a person's health
PT, played sitting right in front of my crappy 32inch flat screen with Pulse Elites on almost induced presence in me. Something about the sound design most of all and graphics verging on photorealism and just the entire scenario... I struggled to play and really felt fear from that game.
If anything like PT is made for VR to the same level of absolute perfection as that was I genuinely think, as much as I'd like to experience it, that I simply would not go near that game. It would be genuinely terrifying and stressful to play, which can never be good for a person's health
lol I gotta agree, P.T. had me so stressed out. I can't imagine playing it in VR if its as immersive as that teaser was for me....i'd pretty much just be playing with my eyes closed.
So far a great interview.
Fantastic talk. Thanks for posting it.
Portugeezer
Member
So, will Morpheus also work as an head mounted 2D display for all games?
Only first half of 2016, possibly Q1 I think they've said, but first half for sure (similar to Oculus).
Price, no idea. I think $300 is where we should be expecting it. Hopefully Sony can bring it to us for less, they've said they're happy to sell it at cost, and make money from software just like with how they start with their consoles usually (or maybe even subsidising the cost initially until production costs come down).
They know it can't be a ridiculously high price and there's just no way it will cost more than a PS4 itself. I'm hoping $200 to $250, or for me in the UK, £180ish pricepoint. These prices I'd say would be for the headset alone, but maybe they'll bundle a Move in or camera. Many people do have the camera already and Moves lying around. Both aren't all that expensive and could be bundled in at cost for Sony if they really want everyone to seriously consider buying into Morpheus.
I'm very anxious to see what price we can expect. Then again I fully expected (and was happy) to see a £400 price point for the PS4, and they came out with £350 instead which made me over the moon at the time. I hope they do something similar for Morpheus.
Anyone claiming this will be $500 or more should not be trusted or listened to, they're just drama trolls!
revolverjgw
Member
PT, played sitting right in front of my crappy 32inch flat screen with Pulse Elites on almost induced presence in me. Something about the sound design most of all and graphics verging on photorealism and just the entire scenario... I struggled to play and really felt fear from that game.
If anything like PT is made for VR to the same level of absolute perfection as that was I genuinely think, as much as I'd like to experience it, that I simply would not go near that game. It would be genuinely terrifying and stressful to play, which can never be good for a person's health
Games like PT will traumatize people in VR. I've seen people get so scared in the Rift that I'm sure they would have started crying if they didn't take it off.
DangerMouse
Member
Only first half of 2016, possibly Q1 I think they've said, but first half for sure (similar to Oculus).
Price, no idea. I think $300 is where we should be expecting it. Hopefully Sony can bring it to us for less, they've said they're happy to sell it at cost, and make money from software just like with how they start with their consoles usually (or maybe even subsidising the cost initially until production costs come down).
They know it can't be a ridiculously high price and there's just no way it will cost more than a PS4 itself. I'm hoping $200 to $250, or for me in the UK, £180ish pricepoint. These prices I'd say would be for the headset alone, but maybe they'll bundle a Move in or camera. Many people do have the camera already and Moves lying around. Both aren't all that expensive and could be bundled in at cost for Sony if they really want everyone to seriously consider buying into Morpheus.
I'm very anxious to see what price we can expect. Then again I fully expected (and was happy) to see a £400 price point for the PS4, and they came out with £350 instead which made me over the moon at the time. I hope they do something similar for Morpheus.
Anyone claiming this will be $500 or more should not be trusted or listened to, they're just drama trolls!
Thanks !
I've been waiting for VR forever, it's like a dream come true.
Since Nintendo's Virtual Boy.
This is just my guesstimated speculation though. I'm following this pretty closely and have heard any important snippets of information from the people involved to form my judgements. If it's over $300 then it'll just be a flop, for now, I do feel pretty confident in saying that.
Callibretto
Member
PSMove is fine I think, although I'd welcome an update to Navigation controller. Add that triangle Led used for tracking in DS4 and it'd be perfect.
PT, played sitting right in front of my crappy 32inch flat screen with Pulse Elites on almost induced presence in me. Something about the sound design most of all and graphics verging on photorealism and just the entire scenario... I struggled to play and really felt fear from that game.
If anything like PT is made for VR to the same level of absolute perfection as that was I genuinely think, as much as I'd like to experience it, that I simply would not go near that game. It would be genuinely terrifying and stressful to play, which can never be good for a person's health
I couldn't even play PT out of stress (still have it installed though). I tried playing it 3 times and I couldn't see it through. I was uncomfortable. I could never imagine playing something like that in VR. It would be like playing that nightmare that you can't wake up from.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Whatever your favorite headset is, Morpheus let's you use whatever you provide.
It'd got a headphone jack if I'm not mistaken.
Whatever'sComfortable
Banned
I'm surprised Sony hasn't worked with devs to get a lot of older games working with Morpheus, low risk for publishers and lots of output.
I'm thinking things like Half Life 2, Mirror's Edge etc.
I'm thinking things like Half Life 2, Mirror's Edge etc.
We'll probably get plenty of VR Remasters of older games.
I hope not. Games not built from the ground up with VR in mind will be very rough, if not puke inducing.
Callibretto
Member
I thought that's the case, but I've seen people here said they play old games in VR all the time with rift and it work fine. If vr is a hit, no way publisher wouldn't jump in with easy vr remaster. It's easy money.