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PS VR external processing box to be size of Wii
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outunderthestars
Banned
Someone here has to be under 25. Wow.
shadowsdarknes
Member
We'd all like the box to be as small as possible.
Do I want to make space for another box? No. But it shouldn't be a deal breaker.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Is there some reason the box needs to have its own permanent place somewhere? Can't stack on ps4 or place next to you when you bring out the headset?
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I still have space by my ps4
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Nobody said it's a deal breaker. It is barely a criticism, much less a demand. A minor expression of annoyance is completely undeserving of some of the flippant responses in this thread.
3rdamention
Member
Some people act like you have to mount it on your entertainment center or something. The OP actually says it is a bit smaller than a Wii. I am just going to put it on top of my PS4, or simply put it away with my headset until I use the headset. No reason it has to be permanently placed in the Entertainment or cant sit on the PS4.
However, it seems some people simply dont have any space for it AND dont have any storage space for it at all. So to them, its a big deal.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
i agree. take it out when you want to use it, put it away otherwise.
it makes no sense. if you cant make the space for it then you dont want it enough. the VCR can go in the garage, it doesnt have to be hooked up "just in case" or for looks.
Reallink
Member
With Vive you'll have to mount 2 laser cube projectors on tripods in different corners of your room and wire an AC adapter to each. Mounting a breakout box to your entertainment center would be easy mode comparatively.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
And you also need the camera, right?
And for a lot of games, 2 moves?
Will the initial package come with all of this. It is a bit much to connect and put together.
I hope a lot of games have nice control options and being able to play a lot of the games on the TV. I know and understand that is far fetched and loses the point but I'm sure some games could be fun without vr too
Not to mention the strain of vr.
Are there new move controllers? A
And for a lot of games, 2 moves?
Will the initial package come with all of this. It is a bit much to connect and put together.
I hope a lot of games have nice control options and being able to play a lot of the games on the TV. I know and understand that is far fetched and loses the point but I'm sure some games could be fun without vr too
Not to mention the strain of vr.
Are there new move controllers? A
Seriously? I haven't been following Vive at all, that sounds like a pain in the ass though.
MemoryHumanity
Member
I've been working with PSVR for like 6 months. It's not the size of a Wii. Even in the early kits, it was never the size of a Wii. It's like, slightly smaller than an external HDD.
boredandlazy
Member
Having to continually unplug HDMI cables etc. isn't exactly convenient, so leaving it set up is the easier option.
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
You don't need tripods, if anything its easier than what Oculus would require if you wanted to do a multi camera setup. You just need an available outlet for the boxes vs usb input for the cameras. You can mount it if you want but as long as it isn't literally on the ground or heavily occluded by other objects it should be able to track well.
Ingueferroque
Banned
I wish I still had my old Sony Discman / Walkman
Neuromancer
Member
Can you talk about what you're working on?
Holy shit....you have absolutely no idea, do you?
Nope. Consoles outputs fisheye & handles reprojection, box is for binaural processing & de-barreling the image to output to a TV.
2nd gen of psvr's box might be as small as an apple tv.
To you. because you hate anything Sony.
To you. because you hate anything Sony.
It's not even doing that. Reprojection is done on the PS4. The box handles binaural audio and unwarping the image to display on the TV.
SinCityAssassin
Member
"Is this headset a controller for the Wii?"
"No sir, the box is just shaped like the Wii, the headset is fo-"
"This is for the Wii isn't it??"
"No sir, the box is just shaped like the Wii, the headset is fo-"
"This is for the Wii isn't it??"
That's...insane how wrong you are.
Really glad to hear that the headset very comfortable even with glasses being reinforced over and over.
Also, I have to admit that seeing the design pictures of the laptops in the previous page got a chuckle out of me. I'd post pictures, but that's just a wee bit too OT.
That's pretty nice size. How many cables so far? Five like the pictures in here?
Also, I have to admit that seeing the design pictures of the laptops in the previous page got a chuckle out of me. I'd post pictures, but that's just a wee bit too OT.
That's pretty nice size. How many cables so far? Five like the pictures in here?
There are certain video formats that you can't pass through HDMI , so at thievery least this is to help bypass some of those limitations and standards.
It's also going to act as the PSU for the headset and make sure that there is only a single cable going to the headset rather than 3.
kingwingin
Member
I wonder if the headset is confortable to lay down in. Id love to play games while laying in bed
NotSmartEnough
Member
More than 5. I reckon 7 but it may be 6: 3 HDMIs, 1 power and at least 2 USBs.
Couldn't be more wrong,and absurd to suggest that even Microsoft have put out greater hardware designs than Sony. The number of iconic Sony designs through the decades is huge, going from the original Walkman to the triniton, to storage devices such as floppy disks and cds (with Phillips) etc. In terms of consoles, the designs have been mostly outstanding. Even the ps2 box is iconic design!
jimbobsmells
Member
Is your TV on the ceiling?
I want to do the same especially for tripy VR experiences, but I imagine that the camera will need to see the lights on the VR headset for positioning purposes. I can see myself trying to get the camera to work while still laying down... lol
According to a PSVR developer talk all the reprojection/warp work is handled by the console in GPU compute.
The box itself processes binaural 3D sound & handles the de-barrelling of the image to a local TV for viewing & asynchronous play (both of which have been demoed). IIRC it also does some sensor processing as well prior to it going to the console, although I might be wrong there.
What it doesn't do is give a performance boost in the direct way people think, more it does some lifting that would otherwise take up cycles on the console - performance assistance if you will.
MemoryHumanity
Member
Nothing exciting - I'm just a lowly Event Manager. Next to zero involvement with the hardware/software teams. But yeah, I've set up and taken down hundreds and hundreds of VR kits, and the PU is nowhere near the size of a Wii.
Yeah, exactly. 1xHDMI in, 1xHDMI out, power (with separate power brick), micro USB and then the VR connection cable which is one cable, but two plugs - one for video, one for data. That goes into the front of the PU, the rest go into the back.
NotSmartEnough
Member
Interesting! Does the micro USB go into one of the front USB3 sockets on the PS4, or does it somehow share the AUX socket on the back with the camera?
RealityCheque
Banned
Kinda disappointed that there isn't a small graphics card in there to add some extra power.
Mihos
Gold Member
What the hell, Sony not having a pedigree? You are either very young or very uninformed. Pretty much every device you showed pays royalties to Sony for parts of their design or underlying technology
NotSmartEnough
Member
I don't think it's feasible to connect a graphics card with USB.
shadowsdarknes
Member
When someone insists several times that this box cannot be managed because of a lack of space, then yeah, I'm going to call him out for being silly.
the_batman
Banned
you've gotta start somewhere.
Well, that's a relieved ^_^
There has to be a redesigned PSVR-branded version coming out, at the very least to rename the "Start" and "Select" buttons. There's no way a design-conscious (despite what neogaffer1 thinks) company like Sony is just going to re-use the old Move without any PSVR style cues.
But while they've said all along that PSVR is Move-compatible I don't think that explicitly rules out any functionality enhancements. They've been hesitant to specify final control details. At the very least we'll have a cosmetically different yet functionally identical PSVR Move, but I'm expecting to see a few tweaks if not a substantial enhancment. With that in mind I'm sure we'll see a minimum of 2 SKUS: PSVR-only and PSVR + Camera + "PSVR Move(s)".
Captain Smirk
Member
Has anyone confirmed what length the cable is going to be from this processing box to the headset?