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[Pistolero]

Late to the party but what a fantastic update. Sony's on a roll since GDC...Yayk !

 

[Barakov]

Rogue Galaxy looks like sex now. I hate to do this but............

*BOWS TO SONY*

 

[Ashhong]

Well I tested my PS3 and TVersity, but was only able to make .WMV files work. I was streaming IGN game trailers that I had saved, and it was working fine.

However, all of my mp3 files were coming up as "unsupported format".

And I tried going to the website so that TVersity could convert an .AVI file of Entourage, but it just straight downloaded and then wouldn't play...

 

[drohne]

yeah, rgb full range crushes the hell out of the blacks on my tv, in a way that can't be corrected with the brightness setting -- look at the first cave area in the ng sigma demo, or the samurai armor holding the key.

btw: ng sigma isn't joking about 'very hard' mode :lol

 

[f@luS]

It's nothing to do with "deep colour" - televisions expect to work with a range of 16-235 from black to white. Monitors use 0-255.

Full range is 0-255, and "limited" range is 16-235. If a TV is doing what it should be, limited is the correct option.

If your display has the option to choose between "PC" levels (full range) and "Video" levels, then you would want 0-255 for both. If you're using full range on a display that does not expect full range over HDMI, you then completely lose shadow details, as pictured above.

the only thing i can say for me is that
-with my 360 before the update it was washed out through vga
-I always though ps3 on hdmi was a little bright (but never though washed out), component was much more darker.

does that mean my tv sux and so this update rox for me?

 

[gofreak]

Same here. Hope they fix the "auto-disable" thing

Weirdly, mine disabled with a restart, but the option still said "full"...I immediately recognised it wasn't on though, it does look that different on my monitor. Had to change it back to limited, and then Full again.

Also, I seemed to have a little freeze-up using the DLNA media streaming. I played one video fine, then tried to access a few others and was getting the "access denied" message. Tried one last one, and it seemed to freeze. I was still able to hit the home button to shut down the system, though.

Will have to look into the best way about setting things up for it..

 

[AgentOtaku]

.....o m g

....I ****ing dare....DARE someone to have a look at what this GLORIOUS UPDATE DID TO DQ8

 

[Cloudy]

I thought there was a wallpaper option with images?

 

[65536]

the only thing i can say for me is that
-with my 360 before the update it was washed out through vga
-I always though ps3 on hdmi was a little bright (but never though washed out), component was much more darker.

does that mean my tv sux and so this update rox for me?

It means that either:

1 - Your display expects PC levels, rather than Video levels. This is not a bad thing, as long as the output from the device matches what the display is expecting.

2 - You didn't have the brightness control set properly before.

3 - You don't care about shadow detail, and despite dark areas all merging to black, you prefer the picture this way anyway.



Try this to see which you should actually be using: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6518516&postcount=1450

Brightness on your display should be set as low as it can possibly go before the boxes start to disappear, and no lower than that.

 

[TTP]

Finally was able to get TVersity to show on my PS3, but like some others, MP3s show up as unsupported and transoding videos doesn't seem to work? (PS3 kinda freezes).

TwonkyMedia works great for me for MP3s and the videos the PS3 supports, but no transcoding makes it sort of useless to me (most of my music is in a lossless format, most of my video are H264 highprofile or Dvix/Xvid).
I guess I'll keep using TwonkyMedia until something better gets pointed out.

I'm trying to use TwonkyMedia but when I try to reproduce a file I get a connection error on the PS3. I have the UPnP thing as "Not Available" during the connection test. Might be it? I dont have a router. I plug both the PC and the PS3 ethernet cables in the wall.

Edit: nevermind. Seems like the problem occurs only with MP4 files.

 

[supermackem]

Here's a test for people to see whether or not their display supports the new full range option or not.

First, save this image, and put it on a memory card or something so that you can view it on the PS3:

http://sr-388.net/images/patterns/Brightness.jpg

With the option set to limited, adjust the brightness control on your TV until you can see most/all of the boxes. There are 12 boxes there, but you might not be able to see them all. You should hopefully be able to see at least 9/10 of them.

Now switch it over to Full range. Can you still see all the boxes? It's very likely that you will only see a full black screen now if you're using a HDTV rather than a DVI monitor.

If you can turn up the brightness control and see the same number of boxes again, then it seems your display does support the full range. If it stays black, or you can't see as many boxes as before, your TV does not support the full range option and you should be using limited.

Most HDTVs should have it set to limited.

Howdy andrew me mad mackem, i have tried your pic and i lose the last two off the darkest scale when i flick to full, a quick flick to limited turns the black a more erm brownish black colour, so should i adjust my brightness and use full do you think.

 

[TTP]

Weirdly, mine disabled with a restart, but the option still said "full"...I immediately recognised it wasn't on though, it does look that different on my monitor. Had to change it back to limited, and then Full again.

It also desables after watching a movie or a PS1 game I think.

 

[65536]

If you can get those boxes you lost back when you turn the brightness up, it'd be ok on full, otherwise I'd use limited and turn down the brightness control as low as it can go before more boxes start to disappear.

 

[YYZ]

/me Takes a piss on Linksys WRT54/GS Stock firmware. Get DD-WRT, Tomato or HyperWRT running on those suckers. It's like a whole new router!

Yea I've been running DD-WRT for a while now (almost a year I think) and it's a godsend. Make sure you change max ports to the max and TCP and UDP timeouts to something low (mine are 120). No real problems, using uTorrent is amazing after the change. Before, I tried port forwarding with the crap Linksys firmware and nothing worked.

 

[starship]

RE1 PS1!!

Left side NO UPSCALING, NO FILTERING
Right side UPSCALING, FILTERING

OMGOMGOMGOMG

Imageshack sucks, please rehost it.

 

[vdo]

It means that either:

1 - Your display expects PC levels, rather than Video levels. This is not a bad thing, as long as the output from the device matches what the display is expecting.

So do displays that have this ability to display PC levels - is this something that is set per input to the display (do displays even allow per input settings)? For example, would you want to set the display to use PC levels only for something than can output that range, like PS3, and then for other equipement that is being connected to the display that does not output PC levels, would you want the display to be set to expecting the Video levels for those inputs only? Or as long as the display is set to expect PC levels, it does not matter whether the source is sending PC or Video levels?

 

[BeEatNU]

Yea I've been running DD-WRT for a while now (almost a year I think) and it's a godsend. Make sure you change max ports to the max and TCP and UDP timeouts to something low (mine are 120). No real problems, using uTorrent is amazing after the change. Before, I tried port forwarding with the crap Linksys firmware and nothing worked.

QFT

I have a weird setup thought so my wrt isn't doing whats its good @, its an wireless bridge now so my whole setup wont allow my ps3 to share with my ps3...even wireless connected directly wont share....doesnt matter though.,

 

[65536]

So do displays that have this ability to display PC levels - is this something that is set per input to the display (do displays even allow per input settings)? For example, would you want to set the display to use PC levels only for something than can output that range, like PS3, and then for other equipement that is being connected to the display that does not output PC levels, would you want the display to be set to expecting the Video levels for those inputs only? Or as long as the display is set to expect PC levels, it does not matter whether the source is sending PC or Video levels?

It really depends. All the HDTVs I've owned have only expected video levels over HDMI had haven't supported PC. I would hope that if they support both the option is per-input.

 

[f@luS]

It means that either:

1 - Your display expects PC levels, rather than Video levels. This is not a bad thing, as long as the output from the device matches what the display is expecting.

2 - You didn't have the brightness control set properly before.

3 - You don't care about shadow detail, and despite dark areas all merging to black, you prefer the picture this way anyway.



Try this to see which you should actually be using: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6518516&postcount=1450

Brightness on your display should be set as low as it can possibly go before the boxes start to disappear, and no lower than that.

just tested it through the ps3 browser.
With full hdmi, with 50 brightness setting , i can almost see all of them (but 2 are kinda hard , up/left corner), it should be ok then ?

 

[B-Ri]

mine supports full...

... sweet.

 

[TONX]

So i just got all my videos, music, and movies to work on windows media player 11.

I kinda want to use TVersity because it says that it can transcode, but i havent had any luck with it.

this update rules.

 

[Yixian]

ANyone seen the effets on FFX?

I would try myself but I've been at 2% for 25 minutes.

 

[MickeyKnox]

Here's a test for people to see whether or not their display supports the new full range option or not.

First, save this image, and put it on a memory card or something so that you can view it on the PS3:

http://sr-388.net/images/patterns/Brightness.jpg

With the option set to limited, adjust the brightness control on your TV until you can see most/all of the boxes. There are 12 boxes there, but you might not be able to see them all. You should hopefully be able to see at least 9/10 of them.

Now switch it over to Full range. Can you still see all the boxes? It's very likely that you will only see a full black screen now if you're using a HDTV rather than a DVI monitor.

If you can turn up the brightness control and see the same number of boxes again, then it seems your display does support the full range. If it stays black, or you can't see as many boxes as before, your TV does not support the full range option and you should be using limited.

Most HDTVs should have it set to limited.

Wow, thank you man, that was very helpful.
My 37" 1080p Westy is classified as a monitor but I wasn't completely sure if it was expecting limited or full but I put the image on a memoryStick and followed your instructions. And what do you know I can still see all the boxes when set to full.

Man I'm so ****ing happy about this, don't get me wrong I always thought my set looked beautiful and I was satisfied with my black levels but this is so much richer now, amazing.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Here's the direct download link, thanks to a guy on the PS forums.

http://djp01.ps3.update.playstation...fd9887626f734b46b271aec58e827cb2/PS3UPDAT.PUP

If you are having problems getting the update through the PS3 like I was, just DL this file on your PC, drop the file onto a memory stick under PS3/UPDATE, and update from there.

Worked like a charm for me, and now I can finally go to bed and get 4 hrs sleep. <sigh>

 

[Beer Monkey]

Here's a test for people to see whether or not their display supports the new full range option or not.

First, save this image, and put it on a memory card or something so that you can view it on the PS3:

http://sr-388.net/images/patterns/Brightness.jpg

With the option set to limited, adjust the brightness control on your TV until you can see most/all of the boxes. There are 12 boxes there, but you might not be able to see them all. You should hopefully be able to see at least 9/10 of them.

Now switch it over to Full range. Can you still see all the boxes? It's very likely that you will only see a full black screen now if you're using a HDTV rather than a DVI monitor.

If you can turn up the brightness control and see the same number of boxes again, then it seems your display does support the full range. If it stays black, or you can't see as many boxes as before, your TV does not support the full range option and you should be using limited.

Most HDTVs should have it set to limited.

As I expected, it makes zero difference (in terms of losing shadow detail, or even a change in the overall balance) on my Pioneer. I noticed a while back that the Pio plasmas automatically adjust for PC levels via VGA, so I'm not surprised that it does the same for HDMI.

 

[MercuryLS]

Can anyone tell me how to stream files to the PS3?

 

[Suikoguy]

I'm wondering if the DNLA issues are related to the software, and not the PS3. Time will tell.
Regardless, great update

 

[65536]

just tested it through the ps3 browser.
With full hdmi, with 50 brightness setting , i can almost see all of them (but 2 are kinda hard , up/left corner), it should be ok then ?

Should be fine. My Toshiba only works with video levels, as it's not expecting PC, but even then I lose the top-left box.

As I expected, it makes zero difference (in terms of losing shadow detail, or even a change in the overall balance) on my Pioneer. I noticed a while back that the Pio plasmas automatically adjust for PC levels via VGA, so I'm not surprised that it does the same for HDMI.

Good to know. Full range is always best to use if you have the option of displaying it properly though.

There really isn't much difference between the two, it's more important to have the correct one for what your display is expecting than supporting full range or not.

 

[Lince]

yeeesss yeesssss ZOE 2 now works on PAL PS3 and it looks AMAZING!!!!

 

[supermackem]

This is a very long shot but anyone have a sammy lcd 1080p with just scan feature??? do you still get the green line down the left hand side of the screen while playback of a br movie.

 

[Barakov]

I'm wondering if the DNLA issues are related to the software, and not the PS3. Time will tell.
Regardless, great update

This update is almost epic. I'm sorry but PS3 backwards compatibility takes a burrito **** on the 360 backward compatibility.

 

[wotter]

Can anyone tell me how to stream files to the PS3?

for WMP11:

On your PC go into WM11 and go into Tools, and then Options. Go to the Library Tab and Select Configure Sharing. If your PS3 is on, An Unknown Device Thumbnail should be there. Select it and Press the Allow Button. Remember, the PS3 won't play media that it doesn't support...yet.

don't thank me, thank jasonps3 at psi-next .

*edit
I want GT:HD pics damnit =)

 

[Kintaro]

Looks like my 32" Westinghouse supports full as well. In fact, I didn't even need to adjust the brightness between limited and full to see the boxes (and brightness wasn't that high). Good stuff. Thank you for the information.

 

[bluheim]

Tested with a Pioneer Plasma (year 2004) and I can see as much boxes with Complete than with Limited. I'm happy.

Now, what is that "super white" option ?

 

[Norml]

OMG, Full Range owns!!

Its really is a upgrade, GTHD LOOKS WAY BETTER!!

 

[Beer Monkey]

Good to know. Full range is always best to use if you have the option of displaying it properly though.

Oh, of course. It's an increase in color depth, even though it isn't 'deep color'.

The difference should still be subtle though, and those who are seeing HUGE differences are either crushing blacks or their sets simply weren't calibrated properly. The only way to even compare the two is to calibrate separately for each source.

 

[Dizzan]

Been at uni all day.

Downloading now

Sony is on fire at the moment. They are addressing almost every issue people have had with the consoleand it's only 7 months in

Less and less for people to bitch about......... now to just get that price down......

 

[65536]

Now, what is that "super white" option ?

I have no idea - it seems to be DVD/BluRay playback related, but I can't see any difference on or off.

I've not tried a DVD with test patterns yet, but I couldn't see any change on the sony patterns off the Casino Royale BluRay disc.

 

[rollingstart]

for the DVD upscaler, should I put it to normal, double scale, or full?

well, pretty much what settings do I need to change to make everything look better? games and videos?

 

[MickeyKnox]

Should be fine. My Toshiba only works with video levels, as it's not expecting PC, but even then I lose the top-left box.


Good to know. Full range is always best to use if you have the option of displaying it properly though.

There really isn't much difference between the two, it's more important to have the correct one for what your display is expecting than supporting full range or not.

Sweet, this looks so much better now.

Hey can I ask you what you think I should set my brightness/contrast levels to? Like how close to disappearing should the top/leftmost box be? right now I can barely make it out if I really look for it but the one next to it is pretty easy to distinguish. Should I go lighter or darker?

 

[tribal24]

Been at uni all day.

Downloading now

Sony is on fire at the moment. They are addressing almost every issue people have had with the consoleand it's only 7 months in

Less and less for people to bitch about......... now to just get that prics down......

even if they lower the price watch people bitch-_-

 

[Android18a]

.....o m g

....I ****ing dare....DARE someone to have a look at what this GLORIOUS UPDATE DID TO DQ8

First game I tried

Shame it just won't upscale on my cruddy telly. *saves up for a bravia*

 

[65536]

Sweet, this looks so much better now.

Hey can I ask you what you think I should set my brightness/contrast levels to? Like how close to disappearing should the top/leftmost box be? right now I can barely make it out if I really look for it but the one next to it is pretty easy to distinguish. Should I go lighter or darker?

As a general rule, you want to turn brightness right up and see what the most boxes you can see is. After that, you then want to turn brightness down until the last box disappears, and then back up a notch so that you can just make it out. With some TVs you might have to compromise, and decide that maybe the 3rd box from the left is a better option, as it will give you better blacks, and doesn't throw away much shadow detail.

Contrast is a little different, as it depends a lot on what your display type is.

http://sr-388.net/images/patterns/Contrast.jpg

If you use this, it will tell you the maximum your contrast control should be, as you should be able to see all the boxes on most displays.

With LCDs you can ususally see all the boxes even if contrast is maxed, which is great. You then use the backlight control to dim the picture to watchable levels.

Most other displays use the contrast to set how bright the overall image is though, so you'll want it a lot lower than what the maximum is.

 

[Bebpo]

So is it better to use limited or full if you can see all the boxes in both?

Using that brightness pic I can see all the boxes on limited at +40 and all the boxes on full at +52.

Are the two settings identical at their specific values or does full get better color or anything as well?

 

[65536]

So is it better to use limited or full if you can see all the boxes in both?

Using that brightness pic I can see all the boxes on limited at +40 and all the boxes on full at +52.

Are the two settings identical at their specific values or does full get better color or anything as well?

You're best using full if you can see all the boxes on it. It should, in theory at least, give you slightly smoother gradients.

 

[bluheim]

I have no idea - it seems to be DVD/BluRay playback related, but I can't see any difference on or off.

Well, I'll neave it unchecked and wait until someone find what's up.

Oh, by the way : Metal Gearl Solid 2 now works on PAL PS2.

 

[Fun Factor]

Someone said this before, but...

GRAN TURISMO 4

PLEASE POST PICS OF IT WITH THE NEW UPDATE.

I'll buy a PS3 right now if it's a huge improvement!

 

[Aisenherz]

Rogue Galaxy looks like sex now. I hate to do this but............

*BOWS TO SONY*

 

[MickeyKnox]

You're best using full if you can see all the boxes on it. It should, in theory at least, give you slightly smoother gradients.

Also what is this Super White option for? What should I be looking for in terms of IQ difference with it enabled?

 

[Thunderbear]

Awesome update. Hopefully someone will figure out the whole transcoding thing... at the moment I guess I'll also use TwonkyMedia.