I don't think the ones in the pins section are, the 3 on the side of the homepage definitely are.
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PS4 UI 16 minute video
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I don't think the ones in the pins section are, the 3 on the side of the homepage definitely are.
Facism
Member
I just want a UI that's completely customisable so i can literally just have my game library on view, nothing else. Have friends, store, whatever hidden behind a button press.
does anyone have another link for the video? The one on the OP has gone private and i can't access it
what does this mean?
does anyone have another link for the video? The one on the OP has gone private and i can't access it
what does this mean?
weekend_warrior
Banned
They look like ads to me, the homecreen picture above even has the same Rihanna tile. Maybe not though, until the console releases we know eveything about it. I just base my judgement off what we've seen regarding ad integration this generation on the 360 and what I've seen of the XBO UI.
Face it Tiger..
Banned
So your telling me nobody ripped a copy of Gamekyo's video?
I am dissapoint.
I am dissapoint.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Going to be a fast and functional OS.
Well we know that they don't. I'm pretty sure it's not something that can easily be added with an update either, but we'll see. Highly doubtful though.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Those aren't ads, those are the pins.
That screenshot is from a dev kit version that isn't connected to live, so it makes sense that they wouldn't have implemented the ads yet.
Ad's are supposed to supplant payment. People pay a lot of money per year to use Xbox live. For it to be payment required, and put a lot of ad's directly in your face on the very first screen you see, some people feel it's a bit exploitative. Or at least taking advantage of the leverage it has.
Generally, when you pay for a service people expect that they won't have to support it with ads is well. It's a common gripe people have with Hulu+ as well.
Nightfallfilms
Neo Member
My thoughts exactly. As long as the ads pertain to what I am interested in, then I have no problem with them.
Uno Venova
Banned
Meh, I know what I'm interested in, I don't need them shoving that in my face all the time.
brickwalker0
Member
Most people want to research entertainment media on their own terms at their preferred source rather than a biased corporation trying to sell them something.
It's doubly bad when it's a service you pay for. Especially in today's market, one of the biggest reasons people pay for a service is to remove ads. I usually won't pay for something solely to remove ads but its a determining factor when I decide to subscribe to something.
Nightfallfilms
Neo Member
Since when is less than $4.00 a month a lot of money? If someone cant afford that, then they don't need to be buying four and five hundred dollar game consoles to begin with.
If the ads give Sony and MS more money to improve their services then I am all for it.
You might have a point if the screenshot was from the home screen. But it's not, it's the "My Pins" section. You pin as little or as much as you want there so you're never more than a click or two away from the stuff you like. Like I said before, it's the exact same concept from Windows Phone/Windows 8, as you'd expect.
Now they may put ads all over the rest of the OS, but I would happily bet that they're not going to touch the "My Pins" section.
I think the issue a lot of people have is that you're stating it as if it's fact but no one really knows for sure, and it wouldn't be totally out of left field if the section did have ads on it.
You don't know that for sure, I don't know the contrary for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were ads. I'd be pleasantly surprised if there weren't.
It's not your place to decide how people should spend their money and how they should value the services they receive. You don't know what $4.00 a month* is to a person compared to the service they receive in return. You don't know what $400 is for the entertainment they receive in return.
For you $50 a year** + ads is worth it, for others it isn't.
*Actually $5 a month
**Actually $60 a year
Please don't tell people what is and what isn't a lot of money to them.
XJF
Member
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
False premise. The ads are almost never about stuff I am interested in.
If Sony or Microsoft analyzed the games I had played on my account and the ratings I had given them and used that information to promote similar indie or otherwise low-profile games to me, that might be a useful service. If they are promoting music, movies, or TV, that is useless to me since I have never bought that media on consoles and do not intend to do so. If they are promoting blockbusters like GTA5 or AC4, that is similarly useless, since I am already well aware of those games.
If you want an example of a company that does it right, look at Amazon. I rarely get pissed when they promote other products to me, because they usually do it in a useful way, like showing me alternatives to the product I'm currently looking at or products that are frequently purchased together with it.
There's no winning with some people. They will argue to no end that there's only one ad on the xbox 360 dashboard, when it looks like
They argue that the rest are things they might want to see, and that they aren't ads because they're gaming related. They're still ads to me.
BruiserBear
Banned
There's no winning with some people. They will argue to no end that there's only one ad on the xbox 360 dashboard, when it looks like
They argue that the rest are things they might want to see, and that they aren't ads because they're gaming related. They're still ads to me.
They're still ads by the dictionary definition of advertisements.
He knows that.
weekend_warrior
Banned
How would you feel about Windows if every time you went to the start screen it was filled with ads? How about on an Adroid or iphone? What does it say about a company that creates a UI that prioritizes ad integration more then user-friendliness, customization, or sleekness and speed? That's what the Xbox UI does,and it's probably the only UI that gets away with it.
When you go you a site like Neogaf you accept unobtrusive banner ads, because it's a free site, and because they're, well, unobtrusive. When you go to Amazon you expect to see lots of ads for product you may or may not want, because it's a storefront and it would be pretty bland without visual ads.
At a system level, like Windows, OSX, or iOS you would never accept ads, I don't know why you accept them on Xbox.
Nightfallfilms
Neo Member
Actually, if you have ever paid full price for live then you are doing it all wrong. Not one time have I ever paid $60 for live. The most I have ever paid was $45 for the year.
Because they're... drumroll... unobstrusive. And even with ads I find the Xbox UI to be faster than the PS3 UI, so it does't really affect speed.
Nightfallfilms
Neo Member
Its pretty simple if someone dislikes having ads don't buy Xbox Live, simple as that. I for one having Xbox Live for many years have never been bothered by the ads. In fact I rarely even notice them and when I do its usually something I want to check out anyways. Like that movie trailer for that cool new movie that is coming out or something like that.
It basically boils down to ones opinion on the subject and mine is one that if the ads aren't so prevalent to be distracting then I don't have a problem with them. If it gives Sony or MS more money to put back into the service to make it even better and all I have to do is deal with a few ads then how can that be a bad thing?
It basically boils down to ones opinion on the subject and mine is one that if the ads aren't so prevalent to be distracting then I don't have a problem with them. If it gives Sony or MS more money to put back into the service to make it even better and all I have to do is deal with a few ads then how can that be a bad thing?
Because I do that on my own. I don't need a company doing it for me.
That's irrelevant because that's not what Microsoft is offering Live subscriptions for, that's what others are reselling it for.
Would you say "You paid 500 for your XONE? Haha you idiot my friend sold me one for 30 bucks you're doing video games so wrong!"
Of course not, that's crazy.
You're right. If anyone ever has any criticisms about anything ever they should just shut up and ignore it from then on. Spot on.
weekend_warrior
Banned
You're post history is amazing man.
I'm not going to waste too much time on an obvious shill, but yes, having ads replace what could otherwise be used for apps or other information a user wants on their homescreen is objectively obtrusive.
Wonderful for you, again don't tell people what they should or should not buy or find expensive.
Pimpbaa
Member
Wow, you weren't kidding.
HawksWinStanley
Member
You have a point but to be fair to the guy you're quoting he probably takes advantage of the deals you see several times a year on slickdeals or CAG, etc. that have Live for $35 and that's available to everyone. I think this year alone I've already seen the deal available twice. It's not like somebody's friend selling them something secondhand.
njean777
Member
krypt0nian
Banned
Cute way to say SonyGAF. Don't do that.
Longer video without the annoying music/voice as far as I can tell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjP67UFc3ZY
Thank you thank you thank you. God that guy and his video was annoying. Let's not do any real commentary on the video. Let's play shit music and try to make jokes.
/rant
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
You know people can easily go through your 14 posts right?
ChiliManiac
Banned
You're making the assumption that I'm against the PS3. I enjoy gaming on both Microsoft and Sony consoles. I've had memorable experiences on each. Do you have a problem with me having a preferred interface and console over the other even if it may not seem rational to you? If my views are some how non conformist with the rest of popular opinion on NeoGAF does that make me a bad or stupid person? Nope. Like I said, I went and got both consoles last gen and I plan on getting both this gen. I just have a preference of what I'm going to get first.
I also take offense to your racism analogy. I find it in poor taste.
lol
travisbickle
Member
That was probably after Kinect had started providing targeted adverts .... just saying.
Pimpbaa
Member
Such a clean UI, just like PS3. I hope dynamic themes can be more complex on the PS4.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
How can you even claim this if you haven't even seen the full breadth of both OS's?
BigJoeGrizzly
Neo Member
$60 for a year is NOT a lot of money. If that's a lot of money to someone, then they shouldn't be investing in games consoles and the like.