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PSP2 (Next Generation Portable) Announced, 2011, BC [Up3: Info In OP]
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Doctor_No said:
Good thinking.
I never thought about PS Suite (?) getting full PSP2 games in a few years, that´d be a brilliant way to make sure the userbase WILL be there no matter what. I wonder if it was Google who came up with this.
Edit: is the front cam that little thing between square and triangle? That looks like you´ll smudge/scratch it easily while playing.
infinityBCRT
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Then again, if the MGS trilogy for PS3 rumour is true, it wouldn't be surprising to me if MGS Trilogy + MGS 4 was released for this thing.dark10x said:
storafötter
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I think these news are exciting, but the problem is I don't feel much excitement for this device yet (except its nice that its touch sensitive now!). It feels like a beefy tech portable machine, but needs something more unique to present to make it feel different. Look forward to hear what type of games will be announced.
Always-honest
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i just really hope it's something new. great for people that want to play these games again, but i rather see some new stuff.infinityBCRT said:
Squall5042
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I don't know how to describe it, but this thing looks kind of 'toy'ish to me. I must be used to the straight-line designs of Apple that everyone has replicated. It looks pretty comfortable to hold.
So you were hoping they'd somehow integrate UMD support on a system that was clearly not going to have a UMD drive?shintoki said:
I have 50+ UMD games, so yep, that sure would have been super great... But I'm also aware that I don't live in Fairytale Land, so expectations were tempered accordingly.
Saint Gregory
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You're complaining about 5 games? Some of us have a shit ton more than that. Hopefully there will be some kind of trade-in program.shintoki said:
Expecting some form of BC in a handheld isn't an unreasonable expectation.Shig said:
Dead Prince
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we have E3 and TGS (i guess for 2012 titles). Looks like really NGP will be the new focus unless they still decide to show off more MOVE and 3D titles ;o. i can't wait seeing as I like the list from the JP supporter. just need to know if it's region free and i'm set.Willy105 said:
TunaMarshmallow
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This is what we call "doubling down".
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Deleted member 30609
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He looked a right cuntViolentP said:
This. This. This.Teetris said:
Most people underestimate just how important black level is to picture quality. The deeper the black level, the better the picture quality. In my opinion, the 'holy grail' of picture quality is when a display emits no light when showing the color black. This is not possible with LCD technology.
With PSP2 and its OLED screen, the 'holy grail' has finally been achieved.
sixteen-bit
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So there won't be BC through PSN?Saint Gregory said:
Pretty impressed with everything I've seen/read. My main concern is software development costs though. If this can run PS3 quality games, I can see a lot of the incentive to producing multi-million dollar games for NGP evaporating since portable games historically sell less than console games. At that budget and at this level of tech, devs would be better off making a console game and releasing it for PS3/360/PC and tripling their potential audience than releasing exclusively on a new, expensive portable.
Yes, there are the Minis and other indie-dev programs, but it's the "middle-class" devs that will shy away the most from this I think. Of course the big budget studios won't have trouble at least testing the waters. And the indie devs will keep making their games, but I think the decent devs who are bigger than indie studios but not quite power houses will have a hard time signing up for this.
One thing I think we'll see is games released for PS3/360/NGP to help compensate for and justify the development costs, but that won't sell NGP units... you need solid AAA exclusives for that or the thing won't have very long legs.
Yes, there are the Minis and other indie-dev programs, but it's the "middle-class" devs that will shy away the most from this I think. Of course the big budget studios won't have trouble at least testing the waters. And the indie devs will keep making their games, but I think the decent devs who are bigger than indie studios but not quite power houses will have a hard time signing up for this.
One thing I think we'll see is games released for PS3/360/NGP to help compensate for and justify the development costs, but that won't sell NGP units... you need solid AAA exclusives for that or the thing won't have very long legs.
Castor Krieg
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_dementia said:So there won't be BC through PSN?
There will be, only through PSN. UMDs - never.
Dead Prince
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saw on Twitter
http://twitter.com/#!/SeedStudios/status/30635544501297152
The guys behind the ps3 game Under Siege.
Oh kass <3
http://twitter.com/#!/SeedStudios/status/30635544501297152
The guys behind the ps3 game Under Siege.
Tak Fuji said:
Oh kass <3
brotkasten
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Pretty much, yes. OLED is fucking awesome and I love the display on my Zune HD and that's only 3.3". I can't imagine how it looks at 5". Damn ...Russell said:
longdi
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The spirit of Kutaragi lives, this thing is loaded with power! But besides the hardware, i am not too optimistic, felt like the same old Sony just doesn't get it.
The days of talking about games are over, NGP needed to have a cool marketable feature but it turned out too big and the new Home screen is F'ugly, its reveal did not get the kind of reaction that iPad did. I blame Sony unadventurous following of Nintendo footsteps by keeping the old design. Should have at least gone for PSPGo design. By making NGP too gamey, they cannot price it too high. I am not sure my average working colleges (25-35) would want to buy that when they already use a iPhone5.
I hope it comes with a real web browser and Sony own ebook reader to use the OLED screen and provide a secondary function to compete with other large portable like iPad and Dell Streak.
The days of talking about games are over, NGP needed to have a cool marketable feature but it turned out too big and the new Home screen is F'ugly, its reveal did not get the kind of reaction that iPad did. I blame Sony unadventurous following of Nintendo footsteps by keeping the old design. Should have at least gone for PSPGo design. By making NGP too gamey, they cannot price it too high. I am not sure my average working colleges (25-35) would want to buy that when they already use a iPhone5.
I hope it comes with a real web browser and Sony own ebook reader to use the OLED screen and provide a secondary function to compete with other large portable like iPad and Dell Streak.
Relaxed Muscle
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_dementia said:So there won't be BC through PSN?
Yes, there's BC through PSN.
http://aussie-gamer.com/sony-ngp-compatible-psp-games/
Mr.Squirrel
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Kikujiro said:
does your bag match your heels?
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will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
I'll stay informed about it's progress.
I was expecting a type of tablet computer to be honest.
I was expecting a type of tablet computer to be honest.
Saint Gregory
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I think you know what I mean. I like the upgrade but I don't like having to rebuy my entire catalog. It's like DVD->Blu-ray all over again_dementia said:So there won't be BC through PSN?
brain_stew
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It's BC with all PSN content.shintoki said:
And it has some form of it.Saint Gregory said:
Expecting it to magically do something with a physical format it clearly won't be able to even accept is sort of unreasonable, yeah.
That's a bad analogy; DVDs work just fine on Blu-ray players. It's more like expecting VHSes to work with DVD players. By what, osmosis?I think you know what I mean. I like the upgrade but I don't like having to rebuy my entire catalog. It's like DVD->Blu-ray all over again
Castor Krieg
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longdi said:
Some people will never get it...
Saint Gregory said:I think you know what I mean. I like the upgrade but I don't like having to rebuy my entire catalog. It's like DVD->Blu-ray all over again
Blu-Ray drives can play DVDs just fine. Or did you want them to magically upscale your DVDs to 1080p with no quality loss?
RuneFactoryFanboy
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How are those analog sticks going to work?
They stick up and off the face of the device, does that mean the days of putting in your pocket are over?
They stick up and off the face of the device, does that mean the days of putting in your pocket are over?
AwakenedCloud
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Will be on it if Birth by Sleep gets a PSN release.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Reality Fighter looks like it has potentional, too.
gutterboy44
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With the hardware specs it has and the extra storage most dev's leave on a PS3 blu ray, I can see 80$ PS3 games being sold that include the exact ported game for PSP2 so you can take your game on the go and then play it back on PS3 when home.
This is my ideal usage for this device. Would help me get back into RPG's. I would love to grind during my commutes then enjoy the story aspects when home. Hell this even works for GT5 hahah.
This is my ideal usage for this device. Would help me get back into RPG's. I would love to grind during my commutes then enjoy the story aspects when home. Hell this even works for GT5 hahah.
BattleMonkey
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RuneFactoryFanboy said:
who puts a psp in their pocket?
RpgN
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NGP looks pretty, oval design looks slick and you could hold it more easily, we'll see. I'm really liking the new interface with background music behind it, the way the interface is designed reminds me of Nintendo's approach with the wii. More user friendly and inviting.
I'm surprised games will be stored on flashcard now, backwards compatibility with psp through psn, different SKU's without 3G. Sony commenting that the price will be affordable etc. It seems that Sony has learned some of its mistakes and is trying to give choice instead of forcing features on people and deciding wether to DD or retail is entirely up to you. If their management and implementation works out, then they might be able to hit the sweet spot and make it very attractive for all kinds of consumers.
Before reading the rumours a few days ago, I've never heard of OLED before or the use of touch screen through the back. With OLED I was interested but I wasn't sure if the rear touch screen was necessary. The demo with that little deviant (looking a bit like animal crossing kinda) made me more excited for the idea. And OLED looks sharp and gorgeous, this is absolutely worth going into that direction. I find OLED far more important than having 3D effect, from what we've seen so far, it only offer advantages and improvements. 3D is more like a gimmick to me and when I get a 3DS (whenever) it will be for games only.
Overall, I'm very excited from what I've seen of NGP today but I'm trying not to be hyped nor too excited. They're only going to show advantages and the bad reports will follow later (judging from what happened with the 3DS). The price is a big deal and it might become expensive, I hope they really mean it when they say they'll keep that in mind. And I hope Sony keeps its devices region free, that would be a big plus and big relieve. Also, from what we've all noticed, Sony is throwing a lot of features at you. It could work out great and awesome games with different input methods. But it could also go horribly wrong and throw complicated input methods on one game, or games not being taken advantage of. Lastly, the games seem to be tentitive titles (general killzone, wipeout etc). I hope they offcially announce those games and more. Gravity Daze (or something) looks very interesting, but I'm afraid it might be another one of those games that end up being cancelled like a certain ps3 game. When the ps3 was announced, there was one game that looked interesting to me with 2 girls that are agents and talking directly to the player, it's a shame it has been cancelled since. So, less hype and show the real thing please!
One thing is certain, Sony is very ambitious and going all out. I admire them for that and it makes me excited. Nintendo is holding back with technology on various things just because they're cheap and like to save costs. I was hoping they'd go more out.
I'm surprised games will be stored on flashcard now, backwards compatibility with psp through psn, different SKU's without 3G. Sony commenting that the price will be affordable etc. It seems that Sony has learned some of its mistakes and is trying to give choice instead of forcing features on people and deciding wether to DD or retail is entirely up to you. If their management and implementation works out, then they might be able to hit the sweet spot and make it very attractive for all kinds of consumers.
Before reading the rumours a few days ago, I've never heard of OLED before or the use of touch screen through the back. With OLED I was interested but I wasn't sure if the rear touch screen was necessary. The demo with that little deviant (looking a bit like animal crossing kinda) made me more excited for the idea. And OLED looks sharp and gorgeous, this is absolutely worth going into that direction. I find OLED far more important than having 3D effect, from what we've seen so far, it only offer advantages and improvements. 3D is more like a gimmick to me and when I get a 3DS (whenever) it will be for games only.
Overall, I'm very excited from what I've seen of NGP today but I'm trying not to be hyped nor too excited. They're only going to show advantages and the bad reports will follow later (judging from what happened with the 3DS). The price is a big deal and it might become expensive, I hope they really mean it when they say they'll keep that in mind. And I hope Sony keeps its devices region free, that would be a big plus and big relieve. Also, from what we've all noticed, Sony is throwing a lot of features at you. It could work out great and awesome games with different input methods. But it could also go horribly wrong and throw complicated input methods on one game, or games not being taken advantage of. Lastly, the games seem to be tentitive titles (general killzone, wipeout etc). I hope they offcially announce those games and more. Gravity Daze (or something) looks very interesting, but I'm afraid it might be another one of those games that end up being cancelled like a certain ps3 game. When the ps3 was announced, there was one game that looked interesting to me with 2 girls that are agents and talking directly to the player, it's a shame it has been cancelled since. So, less hype and show the real thing please!
One thing is certain, Sony is very ambitious and going all out. I admire them for that and it makes me excited. Nintendo is holding back with technology on various things just because they're cheap and like to save costs. I was hoping they'd go more out.
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