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Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.

sp3000

Member
Good games my not sell but the games that sell the most are in fact BETTER GAMES.

Yes, Call of Duty, WoW, Farmville, Madden, and Just Dance 2 are the better games. So true. Might as well buy a Kinect now since everyone else is doing it.
 
Silent Hill 2 is greatly overrated. It's a good game that was well thought out with a ton of symbolism and imagery. But the fighting is beyond atrocious and no, it doesn't add a layer of suspense and fear. The Otherworld sections look terrible (they're like the regular world but darker oohhh) and lack the rust or blood effects that were in SH1 and 3. The main character has zero charisma and I don't think it's possible to even feel bad for someone as pathetic as James. Oh and shitty escort missions where Maria easily gets stuck against a wall and die.


I liked 3, Homecoming and Shattered Memories more than 2.
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Here are some new ones from me that should be controversial:

-I hate "small" games, indie games, low budget games, whatever you want to call them
-For the most part, I can't find enjoyment in any game that has no story whatsoever (there are exceptions to this)

That first one is interesting. Care to explain more as to why you hate them? Don't know if it's controversial or not, but I'd take a PSN/iOS game over a retail game any day of the week.
 
Umm lets see...

-I dont like Portal games. In defense though I dont think they're bad, just not for me. At all. I also think, portal 2, the dialogue was not very witty or clever at all. After I finished Portal 2 I vowed to never buy a Portal game again. And I was mad because it was a choice between P2 and MK9 which to buy, and I really wished I had chose MK9 instead.

-I dont like Half Life 2 all that much. Very cliched and repetitive.

-I think pirates are thieves and ruined PC gaming, I am certain piracy stopped developers from targeting the PC with great triple A exclusives (pretty sure this qualifies as a controversial opinion on GAF and most of the internet).

-I think PC gamers on the internet are just about the loudest, most obnoxious, whiny, probably one of the worst gaming factions out there, for multiple reasons.

-I think Microsoft are the best technical hardware engineers in console gaming, better than Nintendo and Sony (I mean technical engineering, not mechanical, IE RROD=mechanical).

-I think the Gamecube was a poor technical effort by Nintendo, ditto the N64, and even the SNES (the key on all these is you must take timeframe into account, IE SNES was great and arguably better than Genesis, BUT I felt for it's time (1.5 years after mega drive) it could/should have been closer to Neo Geo power). I think Nintendo has consistently been mediocre at engineering hardware, while the public perception is probably the reverse.

-I hate the media bias towards casual/bite sized/iOS/indie gaming. I think Facebook, iOS gaming is almost 100% crap that I have no interest in. Zero. I think hardcore, $60, on a disc, console gaming is by far the best yet the group most shit on or perceived falsely as a dying breed by the media, and basically looked at with scorn by the media (looking at you John Davison of 1up yours LOL).

-I dont give a flip about 60 FPS (though I recognize it's allegedly superior for certain genres).

-I think graphics are more important than gameplay, and pretty much the most important factor in gaming, and incredibly unappreciated as to the impact and power they have.


there's probably more but thats good for now i guess...
 

Riposte

Member
It is hard to just pick one, but my most controversial opinion is definitely that almost no one understands videogame genres on NeoGAF. I'll destroy a JRPG thread in 10 seconds flat.

EDIT: Some thoughts:

-Survival Horror isn't a genre, it is a theme.
-No such thing as an "Action-Adventure" genre. Batman: Arkham Asylum and Bayonetta are in the same genre (if not very closely neighboring sub-genres). Uncharted 3 and Gears of War, same thing.
-JRPGs are only JRPGs if they are not SRPGs or action games (or dungeon-crawlers/w/e Xenoblade is), i.e. the "map" you play on isn't vital/is extremely simplified and you are mostly stationary(aside from maybe assigning abstract positioning/relationships). JRPGs and SRPGs are strategy games and should be judged as such.
-Most WRPGs are not WRPGs, they are action games (FPS, TPS, 3D Action, etc).
-"RPG elements" are mislabeled "strategy mechanics", since they have nothing to do with the role-playing element of role-playing games.
-Turn-based strategy and Real-time strategy are not a good way to divide "strategy" games and thus shouldn't be considered genres (more like "styles"). For example it is not helpful at all if City-Builders or 4X games are divided this way, let alone pairing halves of these genres together because of it. Same with "turn-based" Final Fantasys and "active-time" Final Fantasys.

"Retro" is a bullshit label 99% of the time. So is "Indie". Indie Retro games usually shit on the ideas of good games from the last three decades of gaming. (e.g. Super Meat Boy.)
 
I can't believe I forgot about XBL.

This is the one that irritates me to no end. That MS charges and people are willing to pay for a big sack of nothing. They rarely ever host servers too. Paying to be a part of a PvP service seems like pure evil.

An affront to our tech overlords. I'd very crudely compare it to rape, but these people are bending over willingly.

Too much?
 

Hiltz

Member
Call of Duty

-I've only played some of Modern Warfare on Xbox 360 and probably less than an hour on Black Ops on Wii (up to the first motorbike scene). All of it on single player mode only.

- Not a big fan of photo-realistic gameplay and games that lack personality.

- I didn't like how chaotic some of the battles were. At times I didn't know where enemies were shooting at me from.

- The scripted scenes tried to hard to make me want to care about the story and characters.

- I've grown tired of using the same typical weapons in FPS games. I can't blame COD for being a realistic shooter, since it is what it is. However, I just yearn to play FPS games that bring back creative weapons. On top of this, the dude bro nature of COD and other games like it just don't appeal to me.

Metal Gear Solid

- I've only played Twin Snakes for the GameCube.

- I really like some of the characters such as Solid Snake, Revolver Ocelot, and Ninja.

- Long-winded, melodramatic, preachy cut scenes ruined the game for me. It was the first time I stopped playing a game because of lengthy cutscenes. The sniper wolf and Ocelot cut scene in particular, was quite bad from what I can remember.

- I liked how the boss battles are different from each other and MGS is one of the few stealth games I actually kind of liked as I'm not a fan of Splinter Cell and Hitman. With that said, I wasn't particularly blown away by what Twin Snakes had to offer. Some of the small stuff like the CODEC concept is cool and it is nice that the game has some sense of humor.

- Psycho mantis battle is overrated. Clever idea? Sure. Fun? Not really.

Half-Life 2 (Got it from The Orange Box)

- I've only played some of the game but I stopped at the mining cave. I've tried to play through it on two different occasions.

- The game's world, story, characters, and enemies just weren't interesting to me.

- I hate platforming gameplay in practically any game genre while using a keyboard. It just feels clunky and imprecise. The most I can tolerate is CS: Source and Team Fortress 2.

Street Fighter

- The combat system has never clicked with me. I also cannot stand complex button combos anymore. It's just too difficult for me and I get easily confused by things like a "Quarter Circle." I tried playing SF 2 and SF 4 (the latter at a demo station) but I still cannot get myself to like them.

- About the only things I do like about Street Fighter are the classic characters and some of the music (Ryu's theme in particular).

Prince of Persia

- While I have only played a few minutes (probably less than 15 minutes) of the ones on the GameCube. I have watched my brother play the games for hours and i just fail to see why he loves them.

- The gameplay just seems so dreadfully boring and slow-paced. The big focus on platform puzzle-solving is a turn-off and isn't as fun as it looks. the combat takes a back seat to the platforming and is perhaps even more boring and less graceful.

- The generic look of the character designs. Then there's the environments and architecture which tend to be pretty barren and visually uinteresting. I suppose it doesn't help that there appears to be a lack of atmosphere and music to keep the player entertained too.
 

rataven

Member
-2D Zelda is the best Zelda!

-Aside from Final Fantasy V, the SNES generation of FFs are the most boring experiences in the series.

-Mario, I could take him or leave him. And I grew up on his games! SMB3 is good stuff though (and better than SMW)

-I enjoy Oblivion much more than Skyrim (though it should be noted I originally bought Skyrim for PS3, so....:/
 

Makoto

Member
Call of Duty 4 wasn't an innovative game. It simply polished what was already done by games prior to it.

Now onto the controversial opinion: Persistent leveling is an awful feature of FPS's. Put unlocks and specializations on that slate of awful features. It's all a waste of time that just increases the gap between players based on factors other than skill. An FPS game should primarily be about skill and it seems with every FPS based around persistent leveling and unlocks, the developer seeks to divide playerbases even further with arbitrary equipment and specializations that give players an excuse to gloat or whine over something that wasn't based on skill. I despise Call of Duty 4 for popularizing it.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
I'll just pick my last two. Though I have said everything here prior, in most cases many times. One sides more on gaming culture rather than a game.

1. Uncharted 3 is a bad game. I posted my opinion after beating and I recall one specific comment. "Even though those complaints are all true, it doesn't deserve that score". Like hell it does. You can effectively split the game into two parts. The adventure first half and combat heavy second half. The first half makes no improvements to the platforming in 2. Instead they make it worse, add in more "cinematic" focus, and a very long "Follow the line and talking NPC". Very much the same complaints shed against COD, but they don't even give you the shooting gallery 90% of the time. You might as well of watched a movie for the first three hours. Then you get to the second half that goes heavy combat, except they manage to make everything enjoyable about 2's, suck in 3. The aiming is a non issue to other elements. The AI is dumb, they do not respond to getting shot, and are bullet sponges. Encounters are either scripted fun houses or 3 waves arena. Melee system adds nothing but frustration. Its mashy and worse, it locks you into whoever you engage. So instead of using it to push someone back quickly like U2 and take a shot at someone else. It automatically locks you in melee combat and resets your aiming.

And the worst part to all of this is that the story sucked too. I was okay with the first half since I was enjoying it. I liked the new character they added in, I like the background, I like the batter between Scully and Drake. Then lets just drop everything.
Scully goes away, bad guys go away, you now fight generic enemies for 10 chapters. And everyone reappears and makes sense in the final chapter. Completely with many reharsh set pieces from 2.

2. Steamworks or No buy mentality. I understand the notion of wanting to keep everything on one service. Similar to one system, its just convenient. But this bitching if its not steamworks regardless of what the other service is providing. Its some serious childish mentality. People will bitch at the publishers for not making it Steamworks, so they can buy it on Amazon. Or bitch at Valve for not price matching Amazon saying the sale sucks. Or the "Is it steamworks?" For any title that is post from another service on sale. Something funny for this is that someone counted the amount of times its been asked in the CAG thread for the recent Amazon 5$ coupon thread there. 79 times people asked if it can be activated on Steam. And most of which has been on sale have been EA titles. Use google, use search, use something.

I know this one is more of a rant, but Steam is not the end of the line for PC gaming.
 
Game Journos gave way too much attention to Mortal Kombat, mostly because it had a real single player mode (not saying it is bad, I have not played enough of the game to make that judgement).
 
"What's your controversial gaming opinion?"

"Well, apparently I've always been hiding that I'm a huge fanboy and kind of an asshole when given the opportunity! I will express my opinions forcefully, insult others who do not share them, and maybe a troll a little for fun."

"....oh."

"YEAH, THIS THREAD IS GREAT."
 
Yes, Call of Duty, WoW, Farmville, Madden, and Just Dance 2 are the better games. So true. Might as well buy a Kinect now since everyone else is doing it.
Took the words right out of my mind. That's just spooky.

-I think graphics are more important than gameplay, and pretty much the most important factor in gaming, and incredibly unappreciated as to the impact and power they have.
Then you must be loving the hell out of modern gaming eh?
 
Godhand is a terrible terrible game, control wise and techincally.

Hmm I think you played this game wrong. It's not really about the mechanics or technical stuff like the camera... it's the experience!

It took me a while to really appreciate it but once I did it became a really fun and quirky game.
 
-I hate "small" games, indie games, low budget games, whatever you want to call them

Good call, you can see I articulated something like that above.

I'm not sure I "hate" any games for being "indie", per se, but I would say games that tend to focus on a gameplay quirk instead of graphics and production values, which is generally how "indie" games go, usually aren't for me.

That said I think something like Bastion qualifies as indie, maybe, and it's cool. It has good unique graphics.

I definitely hate the media bias that "FACEBOOK AND IOS ARE TEH COOL FUTURE, STEREOTYPED SMEELLY TEENAGE MALE PLAYING SHOOTING GAME ALONE IN BASEMENT SUCKS"

I'm really happy to see all the Half Life 2 dislike in here. Guess I'm not alone...
 

WhyMe6

Member
~ Wii Music is the greatest console music game ever created.
~ Rhythm Tengoku (GBA) is the greatest music game I've ever played. Rhythm Paradise/Rhythm Tengoku Gold (DS) was completely and utterly ruined wholly by its touchscreen controls.
~ The Half-Life series is incredibly average and all the games suffer from horrendous pacing problems.
~ Muramasa: The Demon Blade is the greatest Wii game ever crafted.
~ Oblivion is every bit as good as Skyrim, maybe even better. I've not yet played enough of Skyrim to finalise that judgement yet.
~ The Gears of War series is dull, boring and bland.
~ Resident Evil 4 is really great and ahead of its time and all, but it's actually the 10th best GCN game.
~ Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat was a pretty good game. Nothing more.
~ The God of War and Devil May Cry series both suck balls. God Hand used to be the gold standard and now Bayonetta is that standard.
~ Dead or Alive 2: Ultimate (Xbox) is the greatest fighting game ever made. Third Strike is awesome though, as is the MvC series. Both Street Fighter II and IV suck.
~ Okami is the greatest Zelda game ever made.
~ ICO is terrible. Shadow of the Colossus is wonderful.
~ The Silent Hill series is shit. As are the old Resident Evil games. Traditional survival horror sucks.
~ Final Fantasy 7 is the worst Final Fantasy game I have ever played, and I've finished FFI & II.
~ Vanille is FFXIII's best character.
~ FFVIII & FFX are the best FF games as their storyline's focus on love and loss made them resonate with me most powerfully.
~ Final Fantasy Tactics & A2 both shit all over the original Final Fantasy Tactics.
~ Mario Kart 64 is the only MK that sucks.
~ Super Mario Sunshine is the greatest 3D Mario ever made. Mario 64 is the worst.
~ Nintendo are my favourite developers. However, the are also the most unreasonably and unfathomably stupid and incompetent company and are simultaneously inept and brilliant at creating technology.
~ Despite growing up with Nintendo, Sega is an excellent company with some incredibly underutilised IPs. In fact, I'd have to say they are the company with the strongest untapped IP potential in the industry. I loved Sega Superstars Tennis and got nostalgic whilst playing the NiGHTS & Space Harrier levels and hearing the music: I hate Space Harrier and I only played NiGHTS in 2009. There's nothing to be nostalgic about. Thus, the power of Sega.
~ Shadow Complex is a shit game.
~ Bioshock was incredibly average. The final boss was fun.
~ Sonic CD is a mess of a game. Sonic Adventure 2: Battle is the greatest Sonic game ever, 2D or 3D.
~ The best part of Mass Effect was the planet exploration on the Mako.
~ Halo didn't get good until ODST & Reach.
~ None of the Prince of Persia games are any good. Not the original. Not the Sands of Time trilogy. Certainly not that terrible cel-shaded entry, either.
~ Modern Warfare 2 is the best FPS so far this gen. The Darkness is second.
~ Darksiders is an awful, bland game. As was Saint's Row 2.
~ The Wipeout series is terrible.
 

Combichristoffersen

Combovers don't work when there is no hair
If it's any consolation Nintendo has always been a mess. Batshit insanity that rarely seems to have a point. I can't stress enough how much I don't "feel" the Upad. I'm interested in seeing Mario and Zelda with modern tech though.

Nintendo's insanity always managed to work out for them somehow, though. Sony? Not so much.
 
"What's your controversial gaming opinion?"

"Well, apparently I've always been hiding that I'm a huge fanboy and kind of an asshole when given the opportunity! I will express my opinions forcefully, insult others who do not share them, and maybe a troll a little for fun."

"....oh."

"YEAH, THIS THREAD IS GREAT."

HEY NOW!

Have I ever said I wasn't a dick?
 
Hmm I think you played this game wrong. It's not really about the mechanics or technical stuff like the camera... it's the experience!

okay this is the worst troll attempt in the thread by far since it's insinuating that a game that sacrifices artsy fartsy design and focuses solely on tight mechanics is somehow an indie game based on an "experience"
 

Tain

Member
One at random:

The "indie" movement is a vile one. It elevates one set of creative limitations above all others, looks down upon developers and masterpieces for not meeting extremely vague (or totally bullshit) criteria, and builds an iron wall around certain games to shield them from honest criticism.

It is hard to just pick one, but my most controversial opinion is definitely that almost no one understands videogame genres on NeoGAF. I'll destroy a JRPG thread in 10 seconds flat.

It's true, I've seen it!

But whatever guys, let's keep calling Dark Souls an RPG and claiming that System Shock 2 isn't a first person shooter.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
"What's your controversial gaming opinion?"

"Well, apparently I've always been hiding that I'm a huge fanboy and kind of an asshole when given the opportunity! I will express my opinions forcefully, insult others who do not share them, and maybe a troll a little for fun."

"....oh."

"YEAH, THIS THREAD IS GREAT."

Nothing new in my post I haven't said in other threads. Including the OTs for both.
 

Raide

Member
Blizzard and Valve are two of the reasons PC gaming is still alive.
Console gamers are another reason why PC gaming is still alive.
 
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