SniperHunter
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I hope they are working on a new IP, Alan Wake looks incredibly lame and boring.
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Remedy : Next-Gen consoles are a quantum leap
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But it is, technically speaking.
The Albatross
Member
It aint true.
Great news, I'm looking forward to playing ports from significantly less outdated platforms!
(This is not sarcasm, I really am)
(This is not sarcasm, I really am)
Alan Wake is great. Very unique setting (in games) and great pacing. A bit too much third person shooter combat but very solid other than that. (Just played the PC version)
Glad to hear it.
came here for a image of al this will suffice.
Phonomezer
Banned
LOOKS being the operative word here, why not try playing it. It's great!
I hope they are working on Alan Wake 2, since Alan Wake is hands down one of the best games i played this generation
specialguy
Banned
Count me against Alan Wake.
Riveting the first 6 hours. Then unfortunately, it just keeps going.
Riveting the first 6 hours. Then unfortunately, it just keeps going.
I assure you that playing it is anything but.
But yeah, very excited to see what these guys make of new hardware. Although it doesn't sound like they're fully committing to next gen projects just yet. I wonder if that means they're working another, smaller sized (Alan Wake?) game to bridge the gap.
SniperHunter
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that's the thing, I haven't played it yet. my graphics card is broken atm
Their job hunting "next gen console blockbuster" is going strong for almost two years now and they seem to have recruited many people. (Many in term of Remedy-size. AW was made by 60 people or so).
Then it's a bit weird to say you hope they work on a new IP.
LukasTaves
Member
no, but it is a quantum leap.
Pfffft... you interpretation sucks
A Quantumn leap may be the smallest possible change... but it IS an actual, significant leap forward. In fact, anything less would not even be a leap forward.
Argue that, all you quantumn-haters.
They can't kill the franchise since Remedy owns the IP.
No they can't have any power and cooling system. Just look at early models of the PS3 and especially 360, with all the hardware problems they faced. MS and Sony also have to market these systems to a broader demographic, meaning they can't have a system the size of a PC case sitting in the theatre rack for the general consumer. Not to mention how it will also raise the cost of cooling.
It has to be a fine balance between performance, heat/power consumption, and cost at the start. Not years later when die sizes have decreased (which is becoming increasingly harder to do these days).
I suspect the PS4 and 720 will be priced within the $400-$500 range, and IMO that's fair. Considering the prices of today's consoles, I can see the ps4 and 720 selling well enough if they are marketed well. Expecting $300 launch consoles forever is unrealistic IMO unless we want to slow down technical progression (which is slowing down on it's own).
It makes no sense for MS and Sony to "make and market the affordable, mass market box" because they already have systems that can serve this purpose. The PS360 will be selling for a few more years easily, and after next gen launches, I can see their prices going down at a quicker pace to accommodate this low end market. There is no need for either company to join Nintendo in this respect.
There are major differences between the last generation transition and this one coming up. The industry at large was not prepared for this generation, and many lessons were learned, so the next transition will not be as bad as you make it sound. Plus, while these new consoles will be more powerful by console standards, it doesn't sound like they are building expensive and insane boxes.
So really your concerns are unwarranted IMO.
Fixed for accuracy.
Wii-U is a next gen system, regardless if you care to realize it or not.
You don't have a 360? The game is super cheap these days on the system.
Yeah, your avatar *sucks* at Doing The Face; you could have learnt from the master!
I am looking at them and suppose they will still go the same route
MS will just be a but more carefull, PS3 did not have any major problems from what i know
I think they can strike that balance and still be very competitive against PC at lauch with customized hardware
CrazedArabMan
Member
Alan Wake 2 next xbox launch game please!
Yeah it's very likely they will go similar routes, just like this gen.
I also agree that MS will be more careful, a billion dollar mistake will teach any company a lesson, however Sony will be more careful too since the early model PS3s have shown to experience issues as well. It just takes longer for these problems to surface. They both will be smarter with the designs of these consoles, not just with heat management but also cost management as well.
As for being competitive against PCs, well I guess that depends on your definition of competitive. They won't come close to PC level performance, that's for sure. I also don't see any of the next gen systems having highly customized hardware, certainly nothing like this gen. Most of the changes will be the removal of hardware/features that would make no sense in a console or to improve efficiency. Any customization or additions to boost performance will be minimal IMO. In terms of unique hardware, next gen is looking to be the most boring of all.
Fact is we dont really know much about the hardware they will be using, so that is just an assumption
I definatly dont expect them to match PC in raw power though, agree there
It's funny how TC attacks the Wii U, the guy mentions no consoles but of course people will think "It can't be about Wii U, we haven't seen anything next gen yet"
I remember the days when people called the Xbox 360 the Xbox 1.5 due to what we saw at E3 2005.
But people don't remember that.
I remember the days when people called the Xbox 360 the Xbox 1.5 due to what we saw at E3 2005.
But people don't remember that.
Actually since Remedy is mainly working with MS and a 720 and Alan Wake 2 are both rumored to be coming, it is safe to assume they have xbox 720 in mind than WiiU
I hope so.
Come on, the Wii U is not even beating the other consoles yet, like the Wii was (which was part of what caused the "Wii is not beating us, it's last-gen" meme). It's not time yet to use this troll.
Than he could of just been talking about the Xbox 720, the PS4 could be 1x Wii U for all we know.
whalleywhat
Member
Tell me more about how Alan Wake looks.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Even the Playstation 1 can probably do 60 fps. This is not a question of power, it is a design decision. And no, we almost certainly won't see many titles with 60 fps. If you want this, go PC.
AstroNut325
Member
Awesome news. Bring it on. I don't mind paying $599+ and $80+ games. Not joking. I want the top secret tessellated toad level stuff in all games.
True, I am just assuming. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. =)
Only Sony idiots and trolls were calling the 360 a 1.5, what they say never matters. Regardless, you were still able to see a major jump in fidelity, even at the early alpha stages.
All of you guys who keep saying it's early with the Wii-U, that's no excuse as we should still be seeing jumps in the early stages of it's cycle.
I honestly do think we'll see games on the Wii-U that exceed current gen offerings, but I don't believe the jump will be that large at all.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Great to hear this.
Next gen consoles can't get here soon enough. I can't wait to be playing next gen titles.
Next gen consoles can't get here soon enough. I can't wait to be playing next gen titles.
Metroid-Squadron
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Nope.
The difference is the Xbox to the Xbox 360 was a SD to HD jump, the Wii U/PS4/Xbox 720 won't have that next gen that's why it's harder to tell, the tech demos from E3 2011 on a weaker dev kit already proved the Wii U is next gen and those aren't possible on PS3/360.
Nope, it is next gen.
Yes it is, Ouya is a next gen console as well, specialguy was clearly referring to specs though.
Why does every game have to be "open world" these days? Alan Wake worked just fine as a linear game, making it open world would ruin it IMO.
2 ps3's duct taped together.
The WiiU IS a jump from SD to HD though, just a little bit late. What I hope is that Nintendo makes the jump to a modern day OS and featureset, at the end of the day I think that was the most important thing the 360 did this gen. Horsepower is always going to increase.
I'm mean the Wii U from the PS3/360 isn't a SD to HD jump like the Xbox and Xbox 360, we already know the Wii U can use DX10 and possibly DX11 from more improved dev kits, the Wii U's ram is 3-4x more than the Xbox 360's ram, the Wii U is using a Radeon HD GPU rumored to be Radeon E6760.
From reliable sources on NeoGAF the WiiU/PS4/720 uses similar architecture.
Damn it you quoted me before my edit lol. I need more coffee.
Anyways, no, the only difference wasn't the jump from SD to HD. Saying this would indicate Wii games would look as good as PS360 games, which is not true at all. There were many large advancements made from the ps2/xbox to the PS360 in terms of not only tech but also transistor counts, power consumption, etc. The same cannot be said for the jump between the PS360 and the Wii-U.
Also I don't recall anything shown at E3 2011 that wasn't possible on current gen platforms. Sorry but I don't think you have a realistic outlook of the situation.
In context of Metroid-Squadron's post, no it is not.
Yeah but that's the same for the PS4 and Xbox 720 as well.
The Zelda and Bird tech demo.