AndyMoogle
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That sounds like it's just stretching the image. Hardly a fix at all.
EDIT: I spoke too soon. Further down there is an actual fix.
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Resident Evil 7 - PC Performance Thread
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That sounds like it's just stretching the image. Hardly a fix at all.
EDIT: I spoke too soon. Further down there is an actual fix.
paperspace
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Same. Was getting stutter w/ textures on High/Very High w/ a 980 Ti / i7 3770. All medium textures seems to do is slightly cause texture pop-in, but pretty rarely do I notice it.
nkarafo
Member
Happens with the latest drivers as well.
nkarafo
Member
So i think i found the optimal settings for my 2GB 960.
The key was to reduce resolution from 1920x1080 to 1600x900 with borderless window so it doesn't change the native screen resolution. Then i increased the resolution scale to 1.1.
This makes the overall image a bit blurrier but there are no jaggies or aliasing (i use TAA). It also allows me to bump textures to "medium" and even the shadow quality to "high" which helps reduce the awful color banding without making the game crawl like previously. Now with all these settings the game runs smoothly, with minimal stutters here and there. I explored most of the
along with
. There was no hitching during my playtime.
So i advise everyone with a 2GB card to do the same. Reduce resolution to 1600x900. You can still bump the resolution scaling a tiny bit to compensate and you will probably be able to increase an extra setting or two. And you will fix the awful judder without having to reduce textures to low. The game will look better this way.
The key was to reduce resolution from 1920x1080 to 1600x900 with borderless window so it doesn't change the native screen resolution. Then i increased the resolution scale to 1.1.
This makes the overall image a bit blurrier but there are no jaggies or aliasing (i use TAA). It also allows me to bump textures to "medium" and even the shadow quality to "high" which helps reduce the awful color banding without making the game crawl like previously. Now with all these settings the game runs smoothly, with minimal stutters here and there. I explored most of the
house after the dinner scene
most of the processing area in the basement and even fought two monsters at the same time there
So i advise everyone with a 2GB card to do the same. Reduce resolution to 1600x900. You can still bump the resolution scaling a tiny bit to compensate and you will probably be able to increase an extra setting or two. And you will fix the awful judder without having to reduce textures to low. The game will look better this way.
JRW
Member
Looks like I was able to fix it by simply lowering the Texture Quality to medium and left resolution at 1080P, everything else as is (a mix of High / Very High settings) I took screenshots in a few areas comparing High vs Medium Texture quality and can't tell a difference lol. Played for a couple hours tonight and it ran excellent, no stutters or pauses.
I'm currently in
the yard trailer save room just after the crazy boss fight with Jack.
The texture change might be less noticable because I'm playing on a TV (Plasma) but not sure, Game still looks good IMO.
Just glad I can play without the abrupt 10 sec loading interuptions.as I'm traversing the house.
Kinda weird that the ONLY thing that makes the game stutter and dip in fps is the Texture option
I can put everything maxed but as long as the Texture are on Low i'm totally fine (970oc)
Anything above that makes everything stutter and the game also looks damn ugly (weird looking hair especially)
I can put everything maxed but as long as the Texture are on Low i'm totally fine (970oc)
Anything above that makes everything stutter and the game also looks damn ugly (weird looking hair especially)
If you refuse to turn down settings, you need to swap that 970 for a GPU with more VRAM.
TheFNEffecT
Member
CrichtonKicks
Member
What resolution? At 1080p anything above Medium Textures will exceed the memory of a 970 which is why you get stuttering. And at higher resolutions you may not even be able to get to Medium:
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/software/resident_evil_7_biohazard_pc_performance_review/9
I have a 980 and am running 1080p and I had to turn down to Medium as well. High or above cause issues.
KainXVIII
Member
But how console versions can handle very high textures without stuttering?
nkarafo
Member
The idea is that consoles have 8GB unified RAM. So they can use as much as they want for graphics. However, i don't really buy this excuse. It's not the equivalent of a 8GB VRAM GPU. This RAM is also used as system RAM. On PCs, the game can take up to 8GB of system RAM, separately of VRAM.
So how much of that RAM is reserved for VRAM on consoles? How much as "system" RAM and how much can't be used by the game because it's reserved to the OS?
I doubt the console versions use more than 3 or 4 GBs of that pool for graphics alone. PC version is just badly optimized, with serious memory leaks. On Windows 10, i could play smoothly @ 1080p and textures to "medium", after the demo area, with a 2GB card. But after some time it would start to stutter. But if i went to the menu and returned, the stutter would stop until it started again later on. That's memory leaking.
ussjtrunks
Member
I was able to play the demo at 1080p with very high textures and it was only using 3gb of vram is the main game alot more demanding?
The game gets more demanding after the demo area, I only started to suffer issues then.
This is ridiculous. the GTX 970 is/was the same price as a PS4, yet the latter somehow plays the game at better setting?! Ridiculous.
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Yep, I'm noticing the same pop-in but it's not too often and it's miles better than constant frame rate drops and hitches, I'm now nearly 5 hours in and I don't think the frame rate counter has moved from 60 once since setting the textures to medium. I definitely don't accept that it's normal that I should have to play on medium textures with a 970 and you a 980ti but at least it fixed the issue entirely until they hopefully fix it.
Yes, that room was fine for me on high textures,the next area after is where it started to constantly drop frames and hitch.
Except they can't. What medium textures does is only renders the high resolution textures when you are looking at them, so sometimes you see poor textures transform in better textures because of a delay in loading them.
The exactly same thing happens even with the PS4 Pro. People were talking about it happening to them in the other thread.
No, it doesn't. See above.
Aspirations26
Member
Thank the ultrawide gods lol. It's unfortunate I played through most of the game in regular 16:9, but now at least I have the rest of the game and madhouse playthrough to look forward too. Game is going to be 10x better with this can't wait to get home from work to play this.
RazorbackDB
Member
The PS4 has the same texture streaming problems as if you were playing on PC on a lower setting, on top of that you can do a lot better resource management on a fixed platform like PS4 instead of drivers doing the work. Nothing ridculous about that.
TheFNEffecT
Member
Exactly the same situation I had, I knew someone would do it but the game grabbed me too hard for me to wait. But like you, I'm looking forward to playing again in madhouse and the DLC.
nkarafo
Member
Remember when the GTX 750 ti was the equivalent of a PS4?
Aspirations26
Member
Yeah the first few days I didn't progress much in the game at all because I was trying to wait for a fix, but it was too hard. The game like you said just grabbed me and locked me in completely and I couldn't stop haha.
KainXVIII
Member
Thanks, it must be DF video which make me confused (and not only me).
John Caboose
Member
Tried the demo, game looks and plays amazingly on my i3 with a HD7770. Didn't even think I'd be able to start the game from looking at the minspec!
That's only true to some level, but at this point a $900 system being outmatched by a $300 console is a bit ridiculous, no? What's even the point of PC gaming? Why Can I run better looking games like The Witcher 3 and Arkham Knight at max settings/1080p/60 FPS?
The game is just poorly optimized and another case of lazy developers, plain and simple.
It's not being outmatched...
Yeah been borked since the demo. Set it variable on the reflections.
GavinUK86
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Do you know what variable actually does? I couldn't tell a difference between it and off.
Not when the limitation is the amount of memory available rather than raw performance.
The entire reason that things like texture quality options exist is to reduce the amount of VRAM a game is using.
If you refuse to turn down the settings, then you need a faster GPU.
A GPU can't be expected to run "max settings" forever - especially not one which is 2.5 years old and has half the VRAM of current GPUs.
"Very High Texture Quality" is not some predefined setting that has a fixed meaning across all games.
As games get more demanding, older GPUs have to use lower settings. You can't max things out forever.
It doesn't mean that a game is poorly optimized either.
A game from 3 years ago might have only used 3GB VRAM on max settings, while a game today might use 8GB.
I remember Shadow of Mordor requiring 6GB VRAM at the highest texture quality setting - something that only the Titan and 980Ti had at the time.
Just wait until Scorpio launches with 12GB of unified memory
This is why AMD are moving away from treating VRAM on the GPU as the only available resource, and are instead moving to a new architecture with Vega that is designed to use its 8GB of HMB2 memory as a cache instead of the total accessible memory.
It's why their professional GPUs are moving towards having M.2 slots on the board - which will hopefully appear on consumer GPUs eventually.
CrichtonKicks
Member
You can't play The Witcher 3 on max settings/1080p/ with constant 60 fps on a 970. You can, however, get it looking way better than the PS4 version and achieve 60 fps with some very reasonable tweaks to the settings.
ss_lemonade
Member
Game runs fine so far on my 780, which is a little bit weaker than a 970 and has lesser vram too. This is with high textures too. I'm only about 3 hours in or something though so I don't know if it gets worse.
The game is buggy though. I still have not figured out how to disable HDR so black levels is fucked for me. I've already reinstalled the game, reinstalled drivers, reinstalled older drivers and toggled a ton of settings here and there but the game still keeps forcing HDR brightness on me. My 970m laptop hooked to the same TV with the same hdmi cable does not exhibit the same problem (I can't even select the hdr option).
JRW
Member
The VRAM issue didn't show up for me until shortly after
the main house boss encounter in the Garage
Haven't experianced any black level / HDR issues here but I'm on AMD (R9 290X 4GB) if that matters.
ss_lemonade
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nkarafo
Member
Yeah but a PC with a 970 will always be superior to a PS4. Forever. Anything a PS4 runs should be able to run on a 970, with enough headroom for extra bells and whistles even.
Your argument would stand for a 960. Even that card is more powerful that a PS4 but with 2GB is indeed very limited. A 970 has 4GB though. I highly doubt the PS4 uses more memory than that for textures and graphics alone.
I tried with SSAO and even disabled the setting completely and i still get horrible ghosting.
GavinUK86
Member
Interesting. SSAO fixes the ghosting for me.
JRW
Member
VRAM usage also depends on what resolution you're running.
JRW
Member
Yeah, 1080P uses over 4GB as well if you're on High texture qualtiy https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/software/resident_evil_7_biohazard_pc_performance_review/9
I'm guessing Capcom will address this with a patch as it seems excessive, especialy considering how similar Medium & High texture quality looks when comparing, very minor difference in sharpness.
A 970 effectively has 3.5GB VRAM.
I have a 1070 which has 8.2GB VRAM, and did some testing since I have a save at a point in the game where I can run around all the locations.
The only two settings which have a significant impact on VRAM are the shadow quality and texture resolution options.
And unfortunately anything less than very high shadows does indeed look terrible.
That's something they really need to fix with an update. It seems like they're not being filtered properly.
So if we assume that shadow quality must be set to very high, that leaves texture resolution as the only other variable we have.
At 1080p, the highest VRAM usage that I saw in my testing, ±100MB was:
- Very Low: 3.3GB
- Low: 3.8GB
- Medium: 4.4GB
- High: 7.9GB
- Very High: 7.9GB
Contrary to the "poor optimization" claims, the game actually seemed to be very good at memory management, with memory usage seemingly having a set target that it would stay within ±100MB for everything but the highest settings where it seemed to vary a bit more. I assume that means not every texture in the game has higher than "medium" resolution available.
So with a 970, I would hesitate to use medium resolution textures, and even low would be questionable due to that slow 0.5GB the card has.
If they improve the shadow quality in a patch so that lower quality levels are a viable option, that might enable the use of higher resolution textures, but right now I would only reduce the shadow quality if you have 3GB VRAM or less.
Droog
Member
A bit late but thanks for sharing your settings as I'm using the same graphics card.
I actually found changing the AA to anything BUT SSAO (I'm using FXAA right now) and leaving Shadow Cache set to ON gave me the best performance. I have shadows set to High also as to counter the shadow banding too.
I left my resolution at 1080p Full Screen with resolution scaling at 1.0 and my fps remains consistently at 60 for the most part - there are some minor dips (mid 50s) when entering large, open areas but when I had Shadow Cache Off and SSAO On, these areas would dip noticeably into the mid 40s. A good example was the
Trailer park area.
nkarafo
Member
I'm sorry but i think these numbers are ridiculously high for what the game offers. Also, keep in mind that the game also takes up 6 to 8 GBs or system RAM. That's the total RAM a PS4 has for everything. If those are correct, then the game is just a RAM hog on the PC.
But something has to be wrong here. I have a 2GB card. According to these, i shouldn't be able to play the game at all, even with very low textures.
Right now i have a smooth experience at 1600x900 with 1.1 scale (which compensates for most of the lost pixels) shadows at "high" and textures at "medium". In comparison, the game didn't run as smooth on the same setup at 1080p with 0.9 scale (which should be about the same pixel count), shadows at "medium" and textures at "medium". To me it looks like there is something wrong with the 1920x1080 resolution preset.
In my post I said that this was tested using the very high quality shadows since anything lower really hurts image quality.
I also had everything else turned up since the amount of VRAM used is relatively small for the other options.
With a GPU which has 3GB or less VRAM, you need to drop the shadow quality though.
nkarafo
Member
When i say "ghosting" i mean the blurry trail some objects leave behind when you move the camera, under some lighting conditions.
I know it's a LCD thing but Resident Evil 7 is much worse than other games in this regard.