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Respawn details Titanfall 2 changes due to feedback (Speed, Titan acquisition, more)
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AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Sounds great, all of those changes seem like a push in the right direction. If they continue to re-balance more Titan stuff and make pilot ttk longer, they'll have addressed most of my issues with the test.
It would make a lot more snese if Titans had a shield when they drop and if a pilot steal your battery then you loose your shield. Right now your Titan drops with no shield, a pilot steal your battery, you get your battery back and then you have a shield. Doesn't make sense.
TTK needs to be a bit longer too.
Jack Scofield
Member
Seems like the major problems with Titanfall 2 stem from a fundamental shift in design philosophy. I doubt these small adjustments will appease longtime Titanfall 1 fans, as the base game is simply too different.
I do wonder if it's enough, but it is the right direction.
Do remind us. I thought you were advocating that Titanfall 2's speed was fine, but they are increasing it.
Do remind us. I thought you were advocating that Titanfall 2's speed was fine, but they are increasing it.
The Xtortionist
Member
I'm not seeing about first person Titan-embarking animations. That was a huge complaint from just about everyone...surely they're going to do something about it?
The Jackdog
Member
or titan shields. or the map feedback. or rodeo.or first person animations
Steve o 3000
Banned
See? The sky isn't falling.
The Jackdog
Member
am i wrong or do i remember you saying the speed was fine?
so by changing it it would be....not fine?
first person animations isn't a multiplayer issue though, doesn't effect multiplayer and from my understanding these guys are directly involved with gameplay elements.
plus, this is something they can't do overnight. they can't just tweak a little code. they're graphical designers will have to create this from scratch.
hold out hope though
i always recognized that wall speeds were reduced and that they would probably change it but the mechanics themselves were not changed. you can probably find 50 posts that i have already stated this in one form or another just in the last day.
So, based on these changes (and without seeing them in action), my list of complaints is brought to this:
- No AI Grunts in any mode other than Bounty Hunt (and even then they are very limited)
- No Attrition
- Pared down Titan loadout customization
- Burn cards are gone
- Maps aren't conducive to extended chaining (the rest of the maps could prove me wrong, so I'll wait until release to finalize judgement)
- No Titan auto-shield regen
- Wallhanging is a perk for some reason
- Having to choose between a sidearm and an anti-titan weapon
PhazonBlazer
Member
There's another test this weekend?
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
I'm sure that's fairly low on their list of priorities because it doesn't directly affect gameplay like a lot of the other complaints.
The Jackdog
Member
wtf is up with these posts?
people gave feedback to a beta. its literally what its designed for.
Obliterator
Member
Great that Respawn is listening to feedback and this is a solid start. A few more gameplay tweaks / some of the maps being not huge open fields and more like TF1 maps can go a long way.
DeadlyParasite
Member
Doesn't address the time to kill problem or lack of titan customization/shields so I'm still not interested unfortunately. Also "promising" us the other maps will be better means nothing, show the receipts.
moltonasty
Member
Sweet, glad they're listening to the feedback.
I don't want to sound like a whiner, these are very solid changes and it's nice to know Respawn is listening, but short TTK and glowing red outlines around characters still make this game a most probable no-buy for me. We shall see about the maps too, they can make or brake this game.
Eh there's still other things
- red outline of players
- locking special Titan abilities to certain frames
- lack of AI participants
- TTK being low
I suppose I can live with the Titan abilities being kept to certain frames and the red outline, but I can't compromise on no attrition and low TTK
- red outline of players
- locking special Titan abilities to certain frames
- lack of AI participants
- TTK being low
I suppose I can live with the Titan abilities being kept to certain frames and the red outline, but I can't compromise on no attrition and low TTK
Often in the most hysterical, overblown fashion.
DudeWithNoName
Member
Wow, this is great. I honestly was moping around a little in the last week as the beta actually brought down my mood. But this announcement is great news.
Now maybe a tweak to TTK if this weekends testing shows a need for it. I imagine that's an extremely easy change. Like adjusting a number in a config file easy.
Now maybe a tweak to TTK if this weekends testing shows a need for it. I imagine that's an extremely easy change. Like adjusting a number in a config file easy.
Diablohead
Member
For what we know this could be like halo 5 where a week before launch 343 went back on server selection after telling us they would add it after the beta.
A lot of these changes are just value tweaks, the titans still lack recharging shields, you still die near instantly as a pilot, the two maps shown off are still going to be bland, the AI is dead forever and the feeling of titanfall 1 is lost in a void even though it was brilliant at the time and still is.
Complicated
Banned
I'll believe the game has Titanfall maps when I see them after what they said about their design philosophy and them deciding not to put a Titanfall map in a Titanfall beta. This sounds like damage control. Also, no AI/Attrition still means I'm not interested. Bounty hunt incentivizes play styles that aren't fun which is the opposite of what Attrition did. TTK needs to change as well or even Titanfall maps won't be viable for pilot mobility.
wesleyshark
Banned
Bring back Titan shields and Attrition mode.
The Jackdog
Member
Shifty Capone1
Member
This is where I stand too. I just want confirmation on Attrition. If its dead, confirm it is. If it isn't, confirm it isn't. Just tell me one way or another.
I actually like the idea of no Titan Auto Shield Regen, but I do not like their implementation of it. With no titan timer, they died way to quickly without being rodeod.
Dylan Sexbang
Banned
Good. Keep listening Respawn, there's still quite a bit of work I'd personally like done. *coughsFullCustomTitans* Keep up the positive adjustments, and I might keep my vanguard preorder after all.
It does seem that attrition is out. I will wait until we confirm that the maps are a step back across the board before I say I am out.
Also, no one has given me a good answer on why I have to chose between an anti-Titan weapon and a side arm.
Feral Gingy
Banned
Okay cool.
Choosing my next shooter has never been as hard as this year.
Choosing my next shooter has never been as hard as this year.
Yea, I'm glad some people are satisfied with these changes and looking forward to the game again but it is still dead to me if they don't bring back Attrition or a similar enough mode, and Bounty Hunter is NOT a similar enough mode.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Pretty much all my complaints! Hope they follow through. Sounds great though.
Now bring back Attrition, plz.
Now bring back Attrition, plz.
Applesauce
Boom! Bitch-slapped!
I'll believe the traditional map stuff when I see one. Forwardbase Kodai looks better than the first 2, but that's not exactly a ringing endorsement.
The Jackdog
Member
the no confirmation either way makes me think its attrition but tweaked, otherwise known as...not attrition.
or, worst case, just bounty hunt
It's a good start but this list shows they've got a long way to go. The AI grunts really did add a new wrinkle that was fun. Have to wonder if the lack of Azure is really the reason.
The Xtortionist
Member
Maybe, but like the character video chatter from the first game, it affects how the overall experience feels.
excaliburps
Press - MP1st.com
Respawn fixed (almost) all the negatives, right? Biggest ones were Titan timer and Pilot speed/movement and that's being tweaked.
Not really worried about modes and maps since they'll be added in future updates.
Respect to them for both listening to fans, and not going overboard with it.
Hyped! Hoping these changes will be reflected this weekend.
Not really worried about modes and maps since they'll be added in future updates.
Respect to them for both listening to fans, and not going overboard with it.
Hyped! Hoping these changes will be reflected this weekend.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Eh. Was getting the game regardless to some of the complaints some had.