Oh no, not this thread. But the original impressions thread was an absolute clusterfuck.
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Respawn details Titanfall 2 changes due to feedback (Speed, Titan acquisition, more)
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Oh no, not this thread. But the original impressions thread was an absolute clusterfuck.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Glad they're making some changes, but I still have some huge misgivings.
- The grunt issue is probably something we won't know about until launch. it's not something they can tweak
- they have a ton of modes coming, if attrition isn't ready to be showcased or talked about, or maybe they haven't even considered bring it back i can see them not mentioning it here
- Lets hope this is considered
- Burn cards were awful, they should stay gone
- They just said there's a ton of different types of maps, ones that are conducive to parkouring
- No titan auto-shield is something they are sticking by apparently
- Wallhang should be a perk. Lots of people hated it, and since the launch of the original was being asked to become mapped to a different button or removed entirely, especially by the more 'pro" crowd. It's there for people that want to use it.
Yeah, i don't know what they'll do in regards to TTK. Maybe they feel with less player glow and faster movement TTK won't feel as bad?
* they reduced player outline from distance, hopefully it's a significant change
* still to be seen
* still to be seen
* this could feel different after some of the tweaks made
Shifty Capone1
Member
I like bounty hunt, but it isn't a replacement for attrition! Give me both!
Bornstellar
Member
They need to bring back regen shields on Titans. Simply increasing their health pool does not solve the resulting issue (Titan battles are now just wars of attrition) and will make the Titans feel even spongier than they are now. Also, rodeos need to change.
Excellent, good on Respawn to looking at the feedback. I didn't play the demo but reading the threads of feedback I agreed with the general sentiment that we want a Titanfall that feels like Titanfall, not Call of Duty
Yes, this. I'd like to try it out.
Yes, this. I'd like to try it out.
Obliterator
Member
Yeah losing Attrition is a big loss. I'm still not 100% sold on being back on board as there are still things I have issues with that aren't addressed here, but it's a solid start. Respawn still has 2 months before release so it's possible they could further improve the game
GrantDaNasty
Member
Hopefully they will do what the fans want and improve the game (in my opinion) as a result.
A lot of the time in the tech test when i got in a Titan the camera would just clip through the level while spinning around. It looks bad.
Also I'm not sure that having access to amped weapons so often is a good idea especially when the TTK is sol low already.
Except that these changes are the direct result of "twisted panties." People should keep giving their feedback. Like others, I'm still hoping for further tweaks, including the return of Titan shields, for example.
Nah, once they learn about teamwork, randoms will totally bring you a battery.
This system is foolproof.
I'm expecting them to do what Battlefield often does and have the first content drop be a throwback to maps/gear/modes from previous titles.
I completely forgot about this, adding it to my list.
InsaneTiger
Member
Just yesterday everybody and their mom was freaking out. Glad the tech test did it's job.
Obliterator
Member
Yeah not sure what is up with some of these posts. People stating what they didn't like about the game is exactly why we are getting these improvements
Dude, there's feedback and there's what was going on in the impressions thread. The two aren't the same.
ebullientprism
Member
I genuinely dont know how close they can make Titanfall 2 to Titanfall "2" but good on them for at least listening to feedback. I always felt that most of the movement and balance complaints would be easy to fix but the maps bit still worries me. That would be way more difficult to redo.
Obliterator
Member
Most of the feedback wasn't hyperbole at all. The fan base has major issues with the sequel and many weren't going to buy the game due to that.
We've seen the map in preview vids, and while the interior areas of the warehouse look a little more traditional, I'd say it's largely the same design philosophy as the first two maps.
I mean, the thing here is that respawn didn't just change the movement speeds when they made TF2: They made a whole new game. I'm not quite sure just going back to the old movement speeds really changes anything.
Now, DLC down the road? We'll probably see some TF1 style maps... and maybe attrition. (On a personal level, I never found Attrition to be all that great. I really enjoyed Hardpoint and CTF with the added AI grunts in the mix)
We shall see, faster movement should definitely help, but that partly depends on the maps. I'd personally get rid of the glow altogether and rethink amped weapons.
You mean like they shot someone rodeoing you off your back? Reality is the rodeo system was a bit fucked up. You had to either
1. get out of your titan, and hope the rodeoing pilot was dumb enough to stay on your titan or jumped straight up in the air so you could kill him quickly
or
2. shoot a cluster at a wall and quickly get out of your titan and back in
Because in a PUB match it was hard to find someone smart enough to shoot him off. Even in PUG matches if someone was rodeoing you, you were screwed if a teammate didn't save you. Because good players knew how to jump off the titan and kill you right when you got out. It's was a 75-25 shitty situation.
This change could be for the better. It automatically knocks the guy off you, and as more players become better with the new Titan mechanics it's going to be a more skillful (on both ends) situation.
I'm surprised and happy they are actually addressing the issues rather than explaining them away, kudos.
I just really hope they go back to Titans having regen shields, remove the player glow altogether and add AI/Attrition. Oh and TF1 maps ported to TF2 as a DLC.
Edit: Oh and Rodeo in TF1 was so much better, it's a joke.
I just really hope they go back to Titans having regen shields, remove the player glow altogether and add AI/Attrition. Oh and TF1 maps ported to TF2 as a DLC.
Edit: Oh and Rodeo in TF1 was so much better, it's a joke.
I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on that one.
ethomaz
Banned
It was terrible... outside GAF too.
I'm curious how they reached suck drastic changes from original Titanfall...
TimeEffect
Member
I am surprised and happy. The feedback was good, the criticism was always well explained by the community.
I am STILL skeptical of map design and would like to see the maps as they come. It's all that I am holding out for. If they are good, I will pick up Titanfall day one.
The only thing they havent mentioned is A.I in modes like Hardpoint.
IMO, it needs to happen, as it provided incredibly cinematic gameplay and offered some greater diversity to how you played.
They can balance it out how they like, but grunts really shouldnt be just in Bounty
I am STILL skeptical of map design and would like to see the maps as they come. It's all that I am holding out for. If they are good, I will pick up Titanfall day one.
The only thing they havent mentioned is A.I in modes like Hardpoint.
IMO, it needs to happen, as it provided incredibly cinematic gameplay and offered some greater diversity to how you played.
They can balance it out how they like, but grunts really shouldnt be just in Bounty
That is a problem.
I think it can be partially solved by starting Titans with shields, so people don't keep them for themselves, and communicating that using a battery on a friendly Titan reduces your 'time to Titanfall'.
Stlunarick999
Member
Needs:
-Grappling Hook Available to all classes
-AI bots & attrition
-Titan Regen Shields (adds so much strategy)
-Option to rodeo & destroy titan OR steal the battery (still prefer just destroying the titan like previous game)
-Grappling Hook Available to all classes
-AI bots & attrition
-Titan Regen Shields (adds so much strategy)
-Option to rodeo & destroy titan OR steal the battery (still prefer just destroying the titan like previous game)
Or you could nuclear eject, taking the rodeoing player by surprise, shoot him in the face and get another Titan 30 seconds later.
Got any examples? I'm legitimately curious, I kept poking my head in every once in a while and don't recall anything that I would call hyperbole.
LordBaztion
Member
Sorry Respawn but I consider bots and large maps key for the Titanfall experience.
Also, I used to get two or three titans per match, one I think is what you get by standing and doing nothing. Titan is in your title.
I'm fine with slower mobility but the unpredictability of the first game was what made it so casual appealing.
I missed when the focus of the game was making everyplayer feel like a badass.
Also, I used to get two or three titans per match, one I think is what you get by standing and doing nothing. Titan is in your title.
I'm fine with slower mobility but the unpredictability of the first game was what made it so casual appealing.
I missed when the focus of the game was making everyplayer feel like a badass.
constantstatic
Member
Lear the new mechanics you have a shield if you pick up a battery before getting in the Titans.
My only problem was the speed and lack of bunny hops so I'm super happy with this update.
Okay, that's promising. Still seems titans will be on a steadily increasing meter now, rather than a countdown (i liked knowing how much I have left). Maybe they'll patch that in later.
The movement stuff is taken care of as I see, that's so good to hear.
Also these. The sidearm v anti-titan weapon choice is a game-changer for me.
I'd also love the old titan building system back, but no way they'll throw this one out in favor of that.
Not sure about the rodeo changes though. The new one with the automatic jump off seems rather dangerous and much less rewarding for the pilot.
The movement stuff is taken care of as I see, that's so good to hear.
Also these. The sidearm v anti-titan weapon choice is a game-changer for me.
I'd also love the old titan building system back, but no way they'll throw this one out in favor of that.
Not sure about the rodeo changes though. The new one with the automatic jump off seems rather dangerous and much less rewarding for the pilot.
if you were at the end life of your titan then absolutely, and that's still an option now.
These are my biggest concerns too, Titan combat and rodeoing seem to lack depth at this stage. Welcome changes nonetheless, Respawn are good people and I'll expect there'll be many more tweaks in the future.
One? I played a shitload and I was getting 2 - 3 per match.
Bornstellar
Member
Otherwise, these are very positive changes. Thanks for listening Respawn!
Rodeoing just made things harder for pilots trying to bring down titans, not easier. How does that lack depth?
TimeEffect
Member
Yes, absolutely. It makes little sense the way it works now.
Even starting with a partial shield would be okay. I think they probably have too much in place with unrevealed loadouts and options to make the change though.
Man, I AM EXCITED AGAIN!!
Just need to see the maps and remaining modes.
I think there's more strategy in the idea of having your Titan's shield manually restored. The battery system just isn't quite there, yet.
There's no enough incentive to risk getting killed while rodeoing to steal a battery. And dead Titans litter the map with batteries (which I think shouldn't happen).
I certainly think Titans should start with a shield, but I'm not so sure about it regenerating. I'd like for players to leave their Titans, and steal shield batteries from other Titans, perhaps to weaken them before combat, or restore their own shields. But that still leaves the rodeo mechanic in a weird place - I'd like to be able to destroy enemy shields by firing my gun during rodeo, similar to Titanfall 1, but then you'd have to make stealing the shield much riskier. And at that point would people even bother? And if for themselves, for allies? I don't think so.
There's no enough incentive to risk getting killed while rodeoing to steal a battery. And dead Titans litter the map with batteries (which I think shouldn't happen).
I certainly think Titans should start with a shield, but I'm not so sure about it regenerating. I'd like for players to leave their Titans, and steal shield batteries from other Titans, perhaps to weaken them before combat, or restore their own shields. But that still leaves the rodeo mechanic in a weird place - I'd like to be able to destroy enemy shields by firing my gun during rodeo, similar to Titanfall 1, but then you'd have to make stealing the shield much riskier. And at that point would people even bother? And if for themselves, for allies? I don't think so.
PeskyToaster
Member
When TF1 came out all I heard was people complaining about the dumb AI lol. This is probably why they are talking about contradictions on twitter. I'd say the changes are positive and doable. The game is completely salvageable and the test was fun. Just not as fun as it could be. I'm glad they specified the intent behind the Homestead map. I thought Boomtown was a great map though. Not Angel City god tier though.