Are these improvements limited to the "Enriched visual mode" @1080p30fps?
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Rise of the Tomb Raider - PS4 Pro Tech Video
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Are these improvements limited to the "Enriched visual mode" @1080p30fps?
Thats an idea, if their going to tout a video mode as 'high framerate', then every graphically effect should be sacrificed to hit a constant 60fps!!!
I agree with you, but they or Sony probably want it to look at least as good as the PS4 version.
You would likely need to change more than just graphical effect. Steaming and IA can also be CPU intensive and you can't easily scale these down
.Shadowhelper
Banned
I expect most new AAA games to be like this.
I wonder just how good the enhanced 30fps version will look. I think I would go for that version.
For AAA games, the bump in power is very welcome. Also feel like we're getting to diminishing returns on 1080p games. I think after a certain point, the mainstream gamer just isn't going to care.
That could be the reason Scorpio increased power won't matter. We're just getting to the point, at least with 1080p gamers, people aren't going to care.
I wonder just how good the enhanced 30fps version will look. I think I would go for that version.
For AAA games, the bump in power is very welcome. Also feel like we're getting to diminishing returns on 1080p games. I think after a certain point, the mainstream gamer just isn't going to care.
That could be the reason Scorpio increased power won't matter. We're just getting to the point, at least with 1080p gamers, people aren't going to care.
LelouchZero
Member
The PS4 Pro's GPU should be capable of offering the max PC graphical settings at 1080p 30 fps, minus SSAA.
Not sure how well the bandwidth will hold up though so it will be interesting to see if they do it.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I think he is just telling people that under wishful assumption
GhostOfSparta305
Banned
Yes please.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Are those enhanced graphical features mentioned at the end of the video only available in the "Enriched Mode"?
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Ok. Then it is the mode I will choose.
Great video
I just wish enhanced AF would also be available in the 4K modes. It's help would be far more noticeable at higher res but seeing as a few games now can't do it, it seems like that won't happen. Since I'm still on 1080p for a bit, I'm going to stick with the enhanced visuals setting.
I just wish enhanced AF would also be available in the 4K modes. It's help would be far more noticeable at higher res but seeing as a few games now can't do it, it seems like that won't happen. Since I'm still on 1080p for a bit, I'm going to stick with the enhanced visuals setting.
LordOfChaos
Member
"The graphics power of the PS4 Pro allows anisotropic filtering"
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Should have been an absolute standard on the 8th gen anyway. People have proposed a mixed CPU/GPU load reducing total extractable bandwidth as an answer, but I don't buy that, I would think most devs would turn down something else to have good clean AF on the base PS4.
This is something I've been forcing x8-x16 on since my Radeon x1650 Pro.
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Should have been an absolute standard on the 8th gen anyway. People have proposed a mixed CPU/GPU load reducing total extractable bandwidth as an answer, but I don't buy that, I would think most devs would turn down something else to have good clean AF on the base PS4.
This is something I've been forcing x8-x16 on since my Radeon x1650 Pro.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Digital Foundry have some very high bitrate (free) 4K comparison footage on PS4 Pro vs Titan X Pascal PC and the only standout difference between the two is the 30-60 framerate.
https://www.digitalfoundry.net/2016...-of-the-tomb-raider-ps4-pro-vs-titan-x-pascal
It genuinely looks native 3840x2160 on PS4 Pro, even viewing up close on my monitor.
https://www.digitalfoundry.net/2016...-of-the-tomb-raider-ps4-pro-vs-titan-x-pascal
It genuinely looks native 3840x2160 on PS4 Pro, even viewing up close on my monitor.
NeoRaider
Member
Candyland: Rise of the Tomb Raider PS4 Pro 1080p Enhaced Visuals vs. PS4 Graphics Comparison
Not really much difference. Game looks almost the same, and i have to say that i expected more from this 1080p/30fps mode on Pro.
Not really much difference. Game looks almost the same, and i have to say that i expected more from this 1080p/30fps mode on Pro.
nelsonroyale
Member
Were you expecting a significant difference? Even on PC with all diales turned up at 1080p, it doesn't look that different to the consoles version. FPS and increasing Res/downsampling are the things that make the biggest difference since the game has AA issues.
Always-honest
Banned
The problem i have with the enhanced mode is that it's still jaggy as fuck.
So i'll pick any downsampled mode available.
Will we get downsampled graphics on a 1080p display if we choose the 4K mode in this game?
Well it's a pretty beautiful game already. I think I'm gonna go with the high framerate setting on this one.
Would love some comparison screenshots.
Blackpanther25
Member
I initially was not going to buy this games but I think EIDOS made a lot of improvements to justify a purchase from me.
I don't understand this you weren't going to buy this wonderful action adventure game based on a few graphical bells and whistles?
sure the extra little effects are nice but not something to hold back on playing the game
at the end of the day that's what it's ultimately all about actually playing the game and having fun not checking for more trees or foilage.
My expectations were pretty low but that is even less of a difference than I thought we would see. Without a direct side by side comparison one would notice zero difference at all.
Yes.
DF video review of the PRO shows the Tomb Raider 1080p supersampling mode, and the improvement in AA is massive.
I wanted to play the 1080p Enhanced Mode, but now I'm not so sure. I think I will play the supersampled mode.
nelsonroyale
Member
Again the downsampled options seems the superior one in my opinion.
Well, the "enriched visuals" mode sure looks pointless.
Always-honest
Banned
Hell yes. The enriched visuals don't top the clean visuals imo. Waaay too jaggy in the enhanced mode.
Thanx.
What vid was it? Can you still find it?
yeah, they're 'enriched' but just ever so slightly so.
4k owners should go for 4k resolution or higher framerate.
1080p owners should go for higher framerate, really.
Garrett Hawke
Member
this is a terrible comparison :/
mostly cutscenes which already had upgraded hair
sun soft shadows are best measured in open areas, not cutscenes
there's just so much wrong here
MikeHaggar
Member
wait... the enhanced visuals mode on ps4 pro isn't super sampled down from the 4k frame buffer?
No, they are two different modes. Enhanced visual is 1080p native.
Check the video I posted three posts above to see the real 1080p supersampling mode.
Equanimity
Member
No. What made you think that was the case?
Always-honest
Banned
Thanx. EXACTLY why i'm buying the PRo. That is a huge difference in immersion for me. Jaggies are the most distracting thing in gaming for me.
No. So the visual are enriched, but all you will notice are jaggies ruining the image.
Well, enriching visuals the fastest way is getting rid of the things that destroy visuals: Jaggies.
MikeHaggar
Member
you know, i'm not sure. so then the unlocked frame rate mode in 1080p is identical to the 4k mode (other than the output resolution)? and the unlocked frame rate mode in 1080p attempts to hit 60fps (but struggles) and the 4k mode is locked at 30fps?
So not native
Equanimity
Member
That's right.
You have three options in RoTTR:
-4K mode with pristine image quality
-Enhanced graphical features at 1080p and 30fps
-Frame-rate that goes upto 60 at 1080p
Hope that helps.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
4K mode it is. Enhanced visual mode is still chock full of jagged edges.
MikeHaggar
Member
yeah, i know that. i'm curious what frame rate the 4k mode runs at. i also didn't realize the enhanced graphics mode doesn't super sample from the 4k frame buffer. i'm assuming the 4k frame rate is unlocked as well.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
4k is 30fps, not unlocked.
NeoRaider
Member
Dat video quality...
Always-honest
Banned
Wow, bad quality vid but i would def. go for the framerate option if you have to choose between those two. Enriched just looks messy. Almost nobody will notice anything being enriched i believe.
Does the 4K version have any extra features? Because that's the version i'll be playing in 1080P.
in the OP video he says they "target" 30 FPS. that wording leads me to expect a variable sub-30 framerate
If they can't maintain 1080p at 60fps, I really doubt they're going to keep a locked 30fps at "4k", checkerboard or not