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RUMOR: PS4 CPU to run at 2GHz
- Thread starter Lagspike_exe
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Sad for you perhaps, but I think it's an excellent option for PC gaming to have consoles as baseline. It has never prevented the PC from having games that really take advantage of the extra power of gaming PCs.
No, I definitely don't think this is sad at all, a blessing this is.
But that's pretty much the current situation anyway. I've had my CPU since early 2009 (!), and it will probably outperform the CPUs in these consoles.
I don't think any leak has ever put the Durango CPU above the PS4's.
Are you taking into account Intel's mobile CPUs? I'm pretty sure they were just cheaping out.
DJ_Lae
Member
My first thought is not excitement about the potential boost this could give to framerates and physics and the like, it's heat.
There were already people talking about overheating problems with the PS4 dev kit, and the PS3 as is (even my slim) does not exactly stay cool. I don't particularly want a generation where consoles are even more likely to break than they are now.
There were already people talking about overheating problems with the PS4 dev kit, and the PS3 as is (even my slim) does not exactly stay cool. I don't particularly want a generation where consoles are even more likely to break than they are now.
Angelus Errare
Banned
How many jiggawatts is that?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Deadmeat!
Oh man what sorcery did MS resort to, to conjure this crazy bastard.
Oh man what sorcery did MS resort to, to conjure this crazy bastard.
That's what we do here. Read and Over react without confirmation... Sad but a little true.
Salacious Crumb
Junior Member
Intel doesn't have an APU like AMD.
TTOOLL
Member
Nice, it means we could see some minor improvements. I may believe this rumor now...
Although Haswell's integrated graphics could well be pretty good, possibly on a par with AMD Trinity.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
They revealed much more on the tech than anyone expected but I also wouldn't bank on too much more on the tech side other than their own released information now and for the future. What I'm saying is they talked up the tech and sort of set the standard for what the consumer should expect PS4 to do so if the CPU gets a slight bump then I don't think they will necessarily scream through the roofs.
I think the games and features will be the focus from here on out. We should get final HW and pricing at E3 but they certainly have released a ton of info on it compared to what I expected at this point.
I would be happy to hear Mark Cerny talk more tech at E3 though but I don't think they will focus as much on the under the hood as they did for their reveal.
And geometry setup, plus almost all the gameplay logic, that isn't really a small deal, even considering tessellation.
I think he was more anti-Sony than anything else. Before MS entered the console space he was big into trolling for Sega and Dreamcast (who can forget the infamous Superkyro post back on long-ago GAF?). He also parades his racism out for everyone to see.
None, unless it requires better cooling. They were previously underclocking the CPU on purpose.
Callibretto
Member
is it enough to bump Killzone SF 30fps to 60 fps?
DeuceGamer
Member
I'll take an increase in what we were expecting. Looks like Sony is trying to up the power from original specs in every way possible this late in the game without making any major changes. Possibly another reason we haven't seen the box since this may require changes in keeping the PS4 cool?
Not entirely true, there may be fewer chips on a wafer that can run at 2Ghz while still meeting the requisite power envelope. But if the yields are good, then yes, it's zero cost.
Felix Lighter
Member
Killzone does not seem like the kind of game that would be bottlenecked by the CPU.
Oppo
Member
Someone fill me in on this Deadmeat fellow...? I don't know the reference.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Nope, a 25% CPU speed increase won't let you render things twice as fast. You'd need a significant GPU bump for that.
Miles Quaritch
Member
A somewhat deranged individual. Those claiming he's a Microsoft fanboy are wrong, he hates Sony with a passion unseen before and never likely to be seen again and will latch to any company that he perceives is a direct competitor of Sony in the console market.
Essentially, someone who hates Sony with a passion and trots out delusional statements every so often. He did it with regularity with the Dreamcast and then latched onto Microsoft and the Xbox.
dr_rus
Member
Sure it does. Intel had them earlier than AMD did. That was the main reason AMD bought ATI. Intel just doesn't call them "APU" or any other fancy new acronyms.
You mean their ultrabook? They're apu, though the integrated graphics core is nothing to write home about.
polyh3dron
Banned
This is the kind of thing that could improve frame rates, much more so than RAM. Of course it's a GPU dependent thing too though.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Revengeance 2 berieve
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
That kind of depends on where the bottleneck is. Fillrate (GPU), memory amount/bandwidth, AI/physics (CPU), etc.
Hopefully physics is done on GPU more and more.
Portugeezer
Gold Member
Let me guess, those 400Mhz are meaningless, right? RIGHT?
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Just like Doombringer Deadmeat has become a almost welcome sight anytime I see either of them. The insanity they bring to a discussion always means high class entertainment.
ScepticMatt
Member
It's a 25% frame rate improvement in CPU bound cases. That's mostly games with a large amount of actors/simulation such as strategy or MMO.
Clock speed isn't an 'upgrade' in terms of cost
Going from 1.6 to 2 on 8 cores certainly isn't meaningless.
SneakyStephan
Banned
Why are the posts in any tech related threads always so bad?
Waded through 2 pages of memes and other garbage before giving up, gaf is really going down the shitter.
MMOs and other games with elaborate uis or maps (like natural selection2) are really cpu heavy and not having a fast cpu in those can really take a shit on your framerate.
If you turn off the UI in tera you gain 30 fps.
Single threaded performance for an i5 will still shit allllllll over jaguar though, guess it'll depend on how good devs are at making multithreaded engines wether it'll get decent performance or be complete and utter shite.
Waded through 2 pages of memes and other garbage before giving up, gaf is really going down the shitter.
UI stuff is also handled by the cpu, isn't it?
MMOs and other games with elaborate uis or maps (like natural selection2) are really cpu heavy and not having a fast cpu in those can really take a shit on your framerate.
If you turn off the UI in tera you gain 30 fps.
That's a lot less shit than I thought, i5 stock is about 50-60 percent faster then the ps4 cpu if it's at 2 ghz, I was expecting something like 300 percent faster.
Single threaded performance for an i5 will still shit allllllll over jaguar though, guess it'll depend on how good devs are at making multithreaded engines wether it'll get decent performance or be complete and utter shite.
Fried Food
Banned
At this point I'm believing all rumors.
Its like two free cores
There was a leaked Cinebench result for a quad core Jaguar CPU at 1.4Ghz getting 1.39 using all four CPUs. A single thread on one Ivy Bridge core (very similar to Sandy per clock) in a 3770k got over 1.66 at 3.9Ghz (stock turbo frequency when only one core is stressed) and 7.61 when all eight threads were stressed at 3.7Ghz (stock turbo frequency). The 3770k is an i7 with four cores and two threads per core, the i5 which is identical except 0.1 Ghz lower clock speed and one thread per core got around 6 (average between different benches on different computers).
A 2Ghz octa core Jaguar should get around 4 with all four CPUs stressed if that first result is correct. An AMD Piledriver core at 4.2Ghz (remember that two cores share resources in a module on piledriver so two cores aren't twice as fast as one) get's just over 1.
It's better than that as you don't get a linear power increase with 10 cores over 8.
Oh god Deadmeat is similar to Doombringer? I need to see more of this guy's posts.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
I thought the AMD guy at CES hinted at the APU being able to dynamically ramp and throttle clock speed based on load, the same way their desktop CPUs do.
