Oh man, Doombringer, wasn't he an insane Sony fanboy? he got banned over sparks or something? We need to unban them both of a day just to have a taste of the old times.
My memory tells me that Deadmeat is like SSJ2 compared to Doombringer.
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RUMOR: PS4 CPU to run at 2GHz
- Thread starter Lagspike_exe
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Oh man, Doombringer, wasn't he an insane Sony fanboy? he got banned over sparks or something? We need to unban them both of a day just to have a taste of the old times.
My memory tells me that Deadmeat is like SSJ2 compared to Doombringer.
Lagspike_exe
Member
Doombringer was a hardcore Xbox fanboy. And I really mean hardcore.
DeFiBkIlLeR
Banned
Patiently waiting for Digital Foundry to finish their investigations on this rumoured 2Ghz speed bump, until then, it's just a clever turning up the heat leak by Sony, to make life even more miserable for the Durango design team..
It is extremely application-dependent. More specifically, it's almost entirely dependent on cache miss rate of an application.
You only get linear scaling if the L1 cache miss rate is very low. This is usually true for toy benchmarks, applications with very small data sets, and applications with very regular control flow and predictable memory access patterns.
Applications with complex control flow or irregular memory access patterns will see little benefit from higher core clock speeds since their performance will mostly be dictated by the performance of the memory system unless memory latency can be hidden some other way, such as through aggressive multithreading.
SniperHunter
Banned
this rumor originated at B3D, it was posted here yesterday and it's missing some details.
You'll be able to see the reflections on the characters' zippers.
I think it was Anand (Anandtech) who said that he expects Jaguar to be clocked around 2GHz prior to any discussion on B3D.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
All we lacked was an NCIS enhance gif.
its probably down to yields and if it is fine, they will do it... ball might be at AMDs court and they might be the ones guaranteeing the performance anyway.
Obviously increasing the CPU clock is good... especially in close console environment where specs dont change, such things can be exploited better than in PC where you are targeting gazllion different configurations.
how exactly important we wont ever know since you wont be able to test it.
Mike R who posted on B3D 1st said 1.8GHz than ps4daily posted this rumor of 2.0GHz then Mike R also said 2.0GHz
& that Jaguar standard clock speed was 1.8GHz.
DeFiBkIlLeR
Banned
The Jaguar's launching for the PC later this year will come in two versions, 1.6Ghz & 1.8Ghz.
Maybe this is where the confusion is coming from some sites & sources.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
link ?
SquiddyCracker
Banned
If this is true then the PS4 slaps the Durantantingo up and down.
Xbox Duranbongordalamardia
CPU: Jaguar 1.8 GHz
GPU: 1.2 Tflops and 12 CUs
RAM: 8GB of DDR3 RAM and 32MB of eDRAM
Ps4
CPU: Jaguar 2.0 GHz (1.1x faster)
GPU: 1.8 Tflops and 18 CUs (1.5x more powerful, and 1.5x more CUs)
RAM: 8GB of GDDR5 RAM (2-3x faster RAM)
Xbox Duranbongordalamardia
CPU: Jaguar 1.8 GHz
GPU: 1.2 Tflops and 12 CUs
RAM: 8GB of DDR3 RAM and 32MB of eDRAM
Ps4
CPU: Jaguar 2.0 GHz (1.1x faster)
GPU: 1.8 Tflops and 18 CUs (1.5x more powerful, and 1.5x more CUs)
RAM: 8GB of GDDR5 RAM (2-3x faster RAM)
Risk Breaker
Member
It does matter more when looking at the average time per frame in ms, according to what I've seen. So yeah, it does matter specially when reducing micro stutter.
So far it seems that the PS4 will not only get the best looking exclusives but better looking multiplats as well. There is no way 3rd parties won't bother with a more powerful architecture, I expect PS4 multiplats to have better textures, higher framerate/resolution.
That's unfortunate.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I'd forgotten about Doombringer. It's such a shame his posts on Killzone 2 are lost to the ether. Those were some amazing outbursts.
This might ruffle a few feathers, but the forum is worse off with them being banned. For all their trolling, their posts were genuinely entertaining and brought some much needed piquancy to the forum.
I remember them back when I was a lurker and I agree with this.
I don't understand something though, how can someone be so upset about video games ?
Chance Hale
Member
Didn't follow the site back in the Killzone 2 days so I'm not familiar with Doombringer. His posts were so crazy they were deleted though? Plenty of other amusing outbursts and silly threads left for all to see so I suppose I'm wondering why his are gone.
Why do people get so upset over sports teams? Politics? Race? Religion?
They will look the same (or) 3rd parties wont spend making PS4 ports look better - thuway.
nelsonroyale
Member
Just like this gen of course...or not.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Damn. As someone who games on PC>360>PS3>>>>>>>>Wii in terms of playtime and games bought, Sony is really building my dream machine as far as consoles are concerned.
Miles Quaritch
Member
As with all things - Games = Serious business.
I wish I knew. I was trying to find them via google, but the links 404. It's such a shame, hopefully someone screencapped them, but that wasn't really a think back then.
That's assuming they lead on the next xbox. I see no reason to assume this will be the case. Games leading on PS4 will undoubtedly take advantage of all power available and then 'downgrade' whatever they need to when porting over to next xbox.
We've seen this already with PS3 games missing effects, detail, etc as developers led on 360. I expect the same to happen next gen, but with next xbox games seeing missing effects, details, etc.
This is all assuming that the specifications for next xbox haven't changed from the 2012 leaked information.
Yeah, also thuway is banned. Wonder what's the reason now?
edit: Looks like he was upto his usual tactics, smh.
For saying that he would reveal something then not do it.
Bish specifically banned him.
This Gen specs were much closer , yet there was still noticeable difference throughout this GEN among Multiform games.
nelsonroyale
Member
Yeah, it seemed like the power derived from having a smidgeon of insider info proved too much for him. Tis a fickle beast...
Anyway, if there is a difference specs, which there seems to be, obviously I would expect differences to become evident in multiplat games. Of course it will be just additions, these consoles are obviously in the same ball park.
Miles Quaritch
Member
In the EA thread? I'm still curious about what he was alluding to. I'm glad the ban hammer was brought down though, such teasing shouldn't really be allowed.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
It's funny that he's trying to muddy the water with the 10+8 thing, the same thing I didn't quite understand and was explained about in another thread.
Could be referring to the CPU rumor in this thread. It was the 10% chance of happening.
Hard to believe when not even Guerrilla Games knew about the RAM jump.
eddfromtheriver
Banned
If that's so, then why did they bother in the PS2, X-BOX, GC era?, if i remember correctly most 3rd party games were way better on X-BOX.
I don't think so, seriously I'm for all for developpers to make the most of the hardware and that applies to consoles too. That would be very petty for third parties not to make the PS4 versions prettier considering that the PS4 is quite easy to developp for unlike the PS3.
Would MS be butthurt over that ? Well, that's their problem.
eddfromtheriver
Banned
Maybe Splinter Cell Chaos Theory is messing up my judgement...
But i do remember most multi-platform reviews back then basically saying... "if you have the option, buy the superior X-BOX version".
If nothing else, the XBOX version would be more pleasant to look at thanks to the relative lack of jaggies. But yeah, there are some games like Chaos Theory that are nearly completely different games.
That game was pretty much made with Xbox in mind and ported down to hilarious levels on the other consoles.
turnbuckle
Member
Well, more is generally better if we're comparing otherwise identical architectures. Do those shrugging off a 25% clock speed bump feel the same as if the CPU was downgraded to 1.2Ghz?
Miles Quaritch
Member
I hope he spills the beans when he returns.
Indeed. I could see Microsoft raising a stink, but such behaviour never really works out in the end as developers soon tire of it.
It was the generally accepted that certain games were better on Xbox. Those were generally developed for the Xbox though and then ported to the other consoles with very mixed and often poor results.