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Satellite Reign (Kickstarter) - Spiritual sequel to Syndicate Wars by orig. creator
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Oh man I had no idea this was cancelled.
As a massive fan of Syndicate, it blows my mind the developers would be silly enough to say "from the makes of Syndicate Wars" Are you kidding?
I am under the impression it's the same dev team for both games, so that's a good thing but seriously, don't mention Wars if you want everyone interested.
I am under the impression it's the same dev team for both games, so that's a good thing but seriously, don't mention Wars if you want everyone interested.
I loved Wars...and now to pledge because you make fun of it.
Making fun of Syndicate Wars is like pointing and laughing at the kids on the short bus, it's just kind of sad and tragic really
Making fun of Syndicate Wars is like pointing and laughing at the kids on the short bus, it's just kind of sad and tragic really
I'm sorry Syndicate Wars offends you somehow but Mike worked on both Syndicate games but was lead programmer, producer and team lead on Syndicate Wars so it made more sense to highlight that aspect of his career.
Making fun of Syndicate Wars is like pointing and laughing at the kids on the short bus, it's just kind of sad and tragic really
Go duff yourself mate.
If only I was the only one offended by the game, it was generally regarded as a flop, hence my fascination with them promoting it as a good thing.
Wiktor
Member
From perspective of time I would say it was heavily underrated by community and the high scores it gotten from some magazines were more than deserved. And looking at how it's rated today, I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Finally had time to watch this. I visually other looks fairly decent. Though it doesn't exactly scream cyberpunk.
The gameplay though was the most perplexing part, one agent walking around the choking some dudes. If no one had told me it was a syndicate clone I would have never known.
We shall have to disagree then, if anything I'm surprised that many people are coming out of the woodwork claiming they enjoyed it. Everyone I know who played the original and got the sequel was heartily disapointed, real life and online.
Regardless, the GIFs in this thread in the OP look quite nice, doesn't look bad, although I'll say the backing for the game, thus far is appalling, kickstarter burnout must be in full effect. I do wonder if there wasn't that Syndicate game last year and if they'd not used Syndicate Wars to market this, if it'd get more backing.
Wiktor
Member
they would propably get a lot less backing if they tried to sell it as Syndicate instead of Syndicate Wars. Kickstarter users are't dumb uninformed mass. They would quickly realize the creator has more in common with Wars than the first one and there would be backslash. Honesty is much better method than trying to obscure anything when it comes to KS.
Nikodemos
Member
I'm one of those few who think the original Syndicate was crap. I found the graphics and colour palette ugly, the (world) designs simplistic, the ammo limits annoying, and the research time exploit-a-thon deplorable. Then again, I only managed to get my hands on it after having played Wars, so my experience was, in a way, 'tainted'. That's not to say Wars was flawless. It had brutal system reqs (you could play it on 320x200 and low detail on the minimum recommended specs, but the game looked absolutely horrendous), a completely incomprehensible research system (up to this day nobody knows what variables are involved in determining mission length - directly tied to research time, since research only advanced during missions) and game-crashing bugs (of note, the particle buffer overflow one, the very first bug I encountered in a computer game). It was also crazy hard and just about unbeatable if you didn't hit a particular set of research milestones (and equipped your agents accordingly). But it was still better than Syndicate. The full-3D world, the almost entirely destructible environment (good ol' Magic Carpet engine...), the bleakness, the film noir/cyberpunk rainy weather (in several missions), the music, the screams of people set on fire... Oh, how I loved it.
I suspect last-year's crapfest is more to blame than kickstarter fatigue. Also, the team needs to stoke them coals a bit.
Yeah, the AMA should hopefully help a bit.
Though I am a bit puzzled about the lack of Amazon payments, that sure turned a few people away. Not worried still, in the end, if push comes to shove, I'll up my pledge a fair bit. Average pledge is 30 right now, quite a bit of headway.
Though I am a bit puzzled about the lack of Amazon payments, that sure turned a few people away. Not worried still, in the end, if push comes to shove, I'll up my pledge a fair bit. Average pledge is 30 right now, quite a bit of headway.
We just put out a new update after reaching 200k funding thus far. There's also an interview with myself on the Jace Hall Show website where I discuss some of the gameplay.
Is it bad that I still think of Jace Hall as King of teh Monstars?
We've got another update up, our dev chat #2 where we go over the classes, customization and the death system.
video link
video link
thesuperfunk
Member
Awesome ... this looks amazing.
We've got a new update today, with a fresh piece of concept art of the new CEO of the game
Just a few hours after we launched the Kickstarter for Satellite Reign, we were already the victims of a hostile takeover. The CEO Big Boss reward tier which grants the backer the right to become the competing CEO in Satellite Reign was snatched up, and we were all at the mercy of our new corporate overlord, Steven Dengler...
More info, including Steven's investment\funding work with Double Fine, Penny Arcade and a small interview with him on the update page.
It's Adam Sandler as JC Denton
spindoctor
Member
Can't help but think that the Kickstarter coinciding with the Steam sale (and the summer sale season in general) is keeping money and attention away from this project. I really do hope they reach the target because it looks so good.
Another reason could be that Kickstarter demands a credit card for UK projects. For US projects you can use Amazon payments which would probably be easier for some. Hopefully they get across the target with enough time to open up Paypal as an option and get some extra funding there.
Another reason could be that Kickstarter demands a credit card for UK projects. For US projects you can use Amazon payments which would probably be easier for some. Hopefully they get across the target with enough time to open up Paypal as an option and get some extra funding there.
We expected there to be some drop off during the middle but we're a bit surprised how little press we've got post launch. Our first dev chat video was picked up by RPS and a few other minor sites but nothing since really. I don't know if the Double Fine situation has made the press more hesitant to cover kickstarters in general.
Generally most sites will report a kickstarter exists and that's about it. RPS might do a second article near the end if something cool looks like it's going to miss it's goal but that's about it.
Wiktor
Member
Yeah. There needs to be something truly new to spark new articles. Showing gameplay videos (even very short ones) is usually enough to get second rund of articles. Otherwise there's just no real incentive to publish new articles.
Another update where we a "meet the" feature about each of the four agents, starting with the support agent
Yeah, I feel they need to do more to get their idea and vision out to the gamers. Definitely more in game shots or even a more in depth prototype video showing the sort of things we can expect to do in the game. Don't get me wrong, the dev chat videos have been awesome and the article on how they are going to approach AI in the game left me quite giddy with excitement, but I think more has to be done to attract more potential pledges than what has been done.
I'm really eager to see this game meet its goal and it would be a terrible shame and a huge loss to us all if it doesn't make it.
Bit of a surge today after TotalBiscuit did a little piece on us. We also introduced add-ons and bob minifig on one of the tiers...
If you guys can come up with something short that you think the media will run with, it would be some good insurance if things go stagnant in the next ten days or just to keep that worm pointing upward. Maybe reach out to some media people and see what they think you could do.
Also, to any media people reading, do a short piece on this please.
We have a schedule release information to keep things flowing.
We put up a new "Meet the" for the Hacker today...
We put up a new "Meet the" for the Hacker today...
Full feature on the update
Wiktor
Member
I can't. My chief editor won't let me and I don't blame him. There's nothing to report there. At least from the perspective of your site (which is the biggest one in country of 40 mln) we write about KIckstarters:
-When they launch
-When they reach the target/end successfully
-When there's gameplay video.
Why don't you set up an interview or something then? I understand your perspective on the general stuff, but I don't see why that precludes something like a skype interview with the devs about the game where you can generate your own news about the game.
What is the reasoning behind using £ ? Is it a preference because that is what is used where you are developing, or is it a requirement? Do you have to pay heavy exchange rates if you use $ when in the UK?
I agree, most £ kickstarters falter. Not being able to use Amazon payments is a huge issue.
Yeah it looks like it won't make it. Terrible shame.