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Shadow of Mordor offers Ultra texture optional download, recommends 6GB VRAM @ 1080p
- Thread starter Regret Truth
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I don't see how anything has changed. The requirement of being able to run "next-gen" games at console-equivalent standards is just as you described, except minus the "out of the window" part. If you want your PC to continue to meet new standards as they change over time, in this case a setting that far exceeds (Texture Quality) what the console versions are using you will need better hardware.
Twisting information to fit your arguments doesn't make them any more true.
Leafhopper
Banned
I get what you guys mean now. The ceiling has been raised significantly.
I wasn't going to get this game in particular anyway but now I am kinda concerned. I don't play too many demanding games on my desktop anyway but gosh, if its gonna be like this when I do play the few demanding games I need to start saving some cash.
Then again I game on Medium to high anyway and very high and ultra if I can do it. Otherwise I don't but how long can I keep that up?...
Good for the upper end of hardware to actually start getting used, if this is warranted in actual use. People who aren't running on ultra should be ok with their current setup and it may be a few years before there is a good rule of thumb like 2GB is good enough for 1080p. That is especially true given that monitor resolution is going to creep up or actually hit 4k and 8k and 3d is going to hit consumer use at unknown res, AA, and refresh.
IcyBlueStrawberry
Member
2GB of VRAM was sufficient when games were developed for 512 MB and ported up, but the baseline has now increased by a factor of 16.
If you want to play PC games this generation, you should brace yourself for the fact that this trend is going to continue.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
I responded to this point on the previous page.
TheVampire
Banned
So so glad I bought a 6GB GTX TITAN.
Expensive yes but probably the best card I've ever owned.
Expensive yes but probably the best card I've ever owned.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Not true. I have 3 cards with that amount of VRAM in my machine now
But if you mean prices coming down to mainstream levels for cards with 4GB+ VRAMthen you're probably right.
3 titans? Only card with 6gb of ram right now.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
My god at that VRAM!
At least I know what game I'll be revisiting in 2020 with 8GB of VRAM
At least I know what game I'll be revisiting in 2020 with 8GB of VRAM
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Basically, buy a PS4 and enjoy games at high/medium.
Wait 3 years until GPU's are put of the 28nm hole and Nvidia/AMD step up the VRAM offering then buy a mainstream GPU that will net you again high/ultra settings for all these console ports until nex-gen
Then repeat process.
Sounds like a plan.
Wait 3 years until GPU's are put of the 28nm hole and Nvidia/AMD step up the VRAM offering then buy a mainstream GPU that will net you again high/ultra settings for all these console ports until nex-gen
Then repeat process.
Sounds like a plan.
Wasn't there recently a thread about this? People who jump into PC gaming expecting to run everything at max settings. It's not a realistic expectation, and there's nothing wrong with turning down some stuff. It'll still look great.
Yes.
For reference, the console versions likely use medium textures. MAYBE high. Definitely not Ultra.
My god at that VRAM!
At least I know what game I'll be revisiting in 2020 with 8GB of VRAM
2014
Paracelsus
Member
In before someone makes a texture pack with the same identical quality weighing 4gb less by changing a parameter or two.
SolarPowered
Member
Damn fuckin' straight.
I saw the 970, but thought it would be better to wait until 2015 for a 20nm GTX 1070 with 6GB VRAM and a 384 bit bus at sub $400. Nvidia will probably charge at least $500 for 6GB cards next year though.
ya, no lol. i doubt its oging to be 1080p on ps4. itll probably be like watch dogs, where they say 3gb for high, but you can actaully play it on a 2gb card like i did with no stutters. they are exagerating i think.
Yes, i belive this will be the new thing, i am not surprised, this is all about bad optimization and exageration on the devs part.
Duxxy3
Member
Probably SLI setup.
luckygodzilla
Member
This man knows whats up.
you need quad Titan Z's
Regret Truth
Member
I would edit that phrase...
Also Im hoping I can run Mordor at 1080 30fps with my 770 2GB
What...really!? 1080p60fps!? I didn't expect that at all. I assumed this whole time that the game on PS4 was 1080p 30.
Well, now that its reviewed well, maybe i should take a look see about getting it for my PS4...
Why would I want to play at console equivalent settings for console equivalent prices?
Honestly I wouldn't, you'd be better off investing more but that's what all of these arguments are based off for some reason. It could be "High" settings on PS4, but that doesn't make your previous statement on console-equivalent PCs not lasting the generation true, or have any correlation with with the 6GB of VRAM for "Ultra".
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Probably the most reasonable path to take.
They're not console-equivalent prices.
The 2gb/3gb cards aren't going to last the entire generation, even on console-equivalent settings. You're wrong when you say nothing has changed. A lot has changed, almost overnight. Look at Evil Within. We're just at the start of this gen.
IcyBlueStrawberry
Member
Adding another video card doesn't increase the memory bandwidth of your system.
To the original question, I don't know that there are cards with more than 6GB of VRAM on the market atm.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
It's like there's some kind of psychological blow when they can't put one of the settings at the highest number. Even though it's an optional texture pack add-on designed to provide extreme quality to those with the highest end cards. Like a 670 with 2GB is still going to be matching or exceeding PS4 quality. People panicking because they've got a 3GB 780 are going to look pretty silly when the actual benches come out.
That one is 12GB vram dual GPU. Well that is just 6GB vram in use, like any other dual GPU setup.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
My friends were telling me 4GB was madness. I told them I just wanted to futureproof after seeing Watchdogs' requirements.
It's 1080p/60fps on PS4.
GHG
Member
Well I wasn't just about to spunk $750 on a pair of GPUs only to be relegated to having to play at anything less than max settings. That's just stupidity in my book, especially when I already own a PS4.
This actually makes my life easier. Will get an xbone for horizon 2 instead now and get new gpus post Christmas.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Lowering settings isn't the same as not cutting it. I'm sure the game will look just fine at high textures.
Iced_Eagle
Member
Nah.
Transparent objects, such as glass, are actually a pretty tricky thing to render efficiently. Typically you'll sort your scene in a list of objects from furthest to nearest, and render and blend the furthest ones first, and then move closer to the camera. That way if there's an object behind a transparent object, it will still get rendered and blended properly. However, this approach can have strange rendering bugs, especially if you have curvy or intersecting objects. Sometimes if things get sorted incorrectly or objects just align right, there can be weird rendering effects. For example, have you ever seen bugs where objects seem to render in front of windows when they are actually behind them? This is generally the cause.
Order independent transparency allows them to forgo a lot of that, at the expense of taking up VRAM by storing information on a per-fragment basis so it can still figure out transparency. Technically you will have a more accurate image, but at the cost of memory. Not sure about the total performance hit/increase of this though.
This is what's crazy to me. The game will still look great even for those with 2GB cards or whatever. Not sure why people are freaking out... More devs should do this, because that means when more of us have 6GB cards like 3 years from now, this game will still hold up very well. As I mentioned earlier, Doom 3 did something similar. It happens with PC gaming, and is what makes it great. Hardware is continuously getting pushed to its limits, but because the settings are configurable, you don't HAVE to upgrade all the time. Over time you just need to turn your settings down until you upgrade again.
SolarPowered
Member
The guy who said he was switching his Evil Within PC preorder to the PS4 because he only has a 3GB GTX 780 was hilarious. At least us 600 series plebs are working with nearly three year old cards. The paranoid 780 owners just don't have an excuse lol.
Coffee Dog
Banned
You guys realize that you dont have to max everything right?
X VRAM does not quarrelate with Y resolution. People need to stop thinking that way. They were wrong when saying 1GB, 1.5GB, 2GB and etc is all you will ever need at 1080p. If there gpu was powerful, you could do 100GB at 1080p. Just think about how much power and VRAM it would require to render NY Time Square photorealistic.
FunkyMunkey
Banned
Never stop doing this in threads, it's hilarious. Yes, ultra on PC will be perfectly on par with console versions. You've figured it all out.
Duxxy3
Member
This is strangely true.
When I was doing upgrades for my PC I would look back at how many times I wasn't able to set the game to absolute max settings. If it happened more than a few times in a short period, it was upgrade time.
I've let that go... for now. No upgrade til the end of 2015 at the earliest.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Thing is, you need 3 gigs for high. That's an expensive card. To get medium you need 2 gigs. A 670 with 2 gigs is over 200 bucks.
This isn't even an especially great looking game. It looks good but it's not a powerhouse. The gen has just started too.
Never stop reading the thread. Just 10 posts down I address that, but I'm guessing you were in a fervor to post that.
Demigod Mac
Member
Don't games like Skyrim use that much VRAM when modded heavily?
The devs included this option for the same group of enthusiasts.
The devs included this option for the same group of enthusiasts.
Leafhopper
Banned
Yes, but even the people that don't max everything like me it will eventually get down to us.
GHG
Member
When you spend that much on a GPU alone you want to play at nothing other than max settings. That's the whole point of the high end PC market.
If he bought with the intention of playing at medium/high settings he would have just bought a 760 or something. Then it wouldn't hurt as much.
It's all about expectations.
It's gotta be all or nothing.
It's gonna bug me knowing that the game can look better with a simple button press.
Oh well, my 3GB 280x will have to slug it out this gen lol