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Shadow Tactics |OT| A worthy Commandos spiritual successor [PS4/X1 on August 1st]
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More_Badass
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Games seems unanimously praised
Steamspy says it's over 10,000 sold already (15,737 ± 3,278), seems great for a $40 game in a niche subgenre
Steamspy says it's over 10,000 sold already (15,737 ± 3,278), seems great for a $40 game in a niche subgenre
Zepp Twofist
Member
I picked this up yesterday on a whim, and sort of forced myself to start it back up again today. But this game is really good. I had no idea how much I missed this sort of game, and the execution of it is flawless. I've played the first four missions, and each one have been great with tons of different ways to solve each challenge, great variety of characters and the overall setting is just perfect.
Can't believe such a great game can come out of nowhere. Was there a kickstarter or any pre release hype for this?
Can't believe such a great game can come out of nowhere. Was there a kickstarter or any pre release hype for this?
Missions 8 and 9 just looked impossible to me at first glance. But you find those tiny cracks in their defenses and slowly chip away until you've somehow penetrated to your objective. Such a satisfying feeling.
This is definitely making my top 5 of 2016 (out of the 30+ games I've played). Hadn't even heard of it until the day it released. Surprise of the year for me.
This is definitely making my top 5 of 2016 (out of the 30+ games I've played). Hadn't even heard of it until the day it released. Surprise of the year for me.
I really hope the game does well for them. I'd love to see them get an opportunity at a sequel.
Ennosuke
Member
I tried the demo, completed the first level. I think it is a fantastic game, but not sure if I should buy it. I am in love with the setting and presentation of this game. Thr combat is fun, but I am worried that at some point it could be to difficult for me. And I really lack patience, which could be very important in this game. I always like the idea of stealth, but I always want to rush things.
More_Badass
Member
That's one of the nice things about how fast you can quick save. You can experiment, rush, fail, and try a new approach. But it does require some patience to precisely time movements and actions
LordAmused
Member
Played the first level in the demo. Goddamn this might be my personal suprise hit of the year!
Didn't know I needed a game like this before playing it.
Now, I don't have the money to buy it, hopefully it stays 10% off on Steam for a few weeks
Didn't know I needed a game like this before playing it.
Now, I don't have the money to buy it, hopefully it stays 10% off on Steam for a few weeks
This might be of interest to some here, GOG is having a sale and has all the commandos and desperados games on sale.
phantomspiker
Member
This game came outta nowhere, probably the biggest surprise for me this year.
I'm really bad though, I need to start making better use of the view cone marker.
I'm really bad though, I need to start making better use of the view cone marker.
The Silver
Member
tactics stealth huh, never played something like this, I fear this might end up frustrating me too much but I do want to try it.
phantomspiker
Member
There is a demo on the steam page, worth a shot.
Karak
Member
Thanks for posting it. Ya I admit at first I didn't like this. But I waited out some patches luckily and its turned out really great!
Calavera520
Member
See that's the thing the trap girl is the most useful I've found. The game allows all sorts of styles of play. All super well balanced. Loving this game.
Yes, for me too.
I'm no expert in this genre but so far I'm thoroughly enjoying this game.
Just finished level 3 (the snow town) and it was a very tense and gratifying experience.
Turin Turambar
Member
I played Commandos 1 and 2. But I never played 3, nor the Desperados games, nor this game, Shadow Tactics.
Can any fan of this genre to put all of them in a ranking, to know which are worth playing?
Can any fan of this genre to put all of them in a ranking, to know which are worth playing?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
That thread title is just hitting all the right feels. I'll definitely check this game out.
Edit: A demo? Even better!
Edit: A demo? Even better!
Desperados is still worth playing, Commandos 3 has always been pretty meh. Hard to properly "rank" them considering how old the original Commandos is -- as of today, I'd consider Shadow Tactics the best of them.
Same here. The only thing I didn't quite like were those rice (?) fields; I guess you're not supposed to see shit in them but it felt a bit unfair because the AI still does somehow.
13 missions in the full game.
Soulblighter31
Banned
The only thing you need to know is Commandos 2 stands far above anything ever made and most likely ,that will ever be made. Its so far above everything it stands in another dimension.
Coriolanus
Banned
That moment when you realize that yes, the developers did factor time of day when designing levels.
Also everybody owes it to themselves to select pistols with yuki while rocking japanese voices. This game has so much god damn charm.
Also everybody owes it to themselves to select pistols with yuki while rocking japanese voices. This game has so much god damn charm.
Just finished it. Really good game and amazing accomplishment for the dev team. There were a few pieces, especially in the later levels, where it felt a bit reliant on dexterity and luck rather than planning
, but overall it's a great stealth game.
Looking forward to seeing vids on how to tackle challenges. Some of them seem absolutely crazy. Spoiler for last level:
I hope they're successful and can work out a deal with whoever owns the Commandos IP. Though I guess nothing is actually stopping them from using a World War II setting anyway.
(or maybe I didn't realize the 'intended' solution)
Looking forward to seeing vids on how to tackle challenges. Some of them seem absolutely crazy. Spoiler for last level:
Drown Lord Noboru? How??
I hope they're successful and can work out a deal with whoever owns the Commandos IP. Though I guess nothing is actually stopping them from using a World War II setting anyway.
Pyro Studios still exist in some form and they own the rights as far as I'm aware. But, yeah, considering the game seems to be doing pretty well so far, they might as well continue with the Shadow Tactics name in a different setting, not much point in wasting money on a license.
Phoenix RISING
Banned
Purchased even though I won't get to it for awhile. I wanted to show my support for the genre in the hopes that we will see more games like it.
phantomspiker
Member
I switched over to the Japanese VA during the second mission. The English VA had a mix of English and Japanese accents which is really jarring to me.
Lucky Forward
Member
I read that Edo period of Japan spanned from 1603 to 1868. I'm just curious, are they more specific about approximately what year the game is set in?
Good point, they can keep the Shadow Tactics franchise name and use different subtitles for sequels in other settings. Here's hoping for Guns of the General.
Coriolanus
Banned
yeah, this is what's most shocking. They've executed the concept so well (better than pyro ever did, i'd say), and commandos has been dead for so long that they might as well just do a Shadow Tactics: In His Majesty's Service set during WW1 with elite BE units. Could have quite the diverse cast, that. (so long as they don't make the irish bloke the sapper, because really.)
Took me 33 hours to beat on Hardcore. Apparently that's on the slow side as multiple reviewers clocked in around 25. Loved every moment, except:
My only other disappointment was the lack of any rendered interiors during gameplay. Would've been cool to infiltrate some buildings, especially that last one at the end.
Yeah, this was the only area I didn't find fun. Admittedly I forgot to use Kuma there, but the way enemy view cones were displayed in the rice fields confused me for a good while. Least favorite gimmick in the game.
My only other disappointment was the lack of any rendered interiors during gameplay. Would've been cool to infiltrate some buildings, especially that last one at the end.
lordfuzzybutt
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As a massive fan of the Commandos series, and to a lesser extent the Desperados series, I stumbled upon this game unknowingly when browsing the GOG sale. Having been craving for such a game for so long it was hard to suppress my hype when I saw this.
Having played the game to level 3, however, doesn't give me quite the satisfaction I was looking for. I still can't quite put my hands on why, everything the game does is pretty great, from graphics to performance, design, mechanics, setting, etc. and I feel like I should be enjoying it way more than I actually am. Maybe I was just hyping myself up too much and it backfired.
Anyway, regarding the non-lethal attacks, if you hide the bodies in enclosing spaces like houses or boxes, they will not wake up, as far as I can see.
Having played the game to level 3, however, doesn't give me quite the satisfaction I was looking for. I still can't quite put my hands on why, everything the game does is pretty great, from graphics to performance, design, mechanics, setting, etc. and I feel like I should be enjoying it way more than I actually am. Maybe I was just hyping myself up too much and it backfired.
Anyway, regarding the non-lethal attacks, if you hide the bodies in enclosing spaces like houses or boxes, they will not wake up, as far as I can see.
I'm having the same feeling of dissatisfaction myself. A feudal Japan tactics game seemed like a dream come true for me, but it seems like nearly every enemy encounter has to be executed perfectly or else you trigger an alert, which so far has always ended in near-instantaneous death for me.
Save scumming always leaves me feeling less satisfied, and so far I'm not seeing any other way to play the game. Trying to use all of my characters' skills effectively and I'm making use of shadow mode where it makes sense, but something isn't adding up.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
How's the variety and replay, then? Are there multiple ways to get through scenarios?
Coriolanus
Banned
gonna go out on a leg and guess that nearly all were playing on normal, thus the reduced play time.
several. with a bonus objectives system that shows up only after you've completed a level once, and a hardcore difficulty mode.
It's not a super historical game, but a cutscene mentions that it's set in the early Edo period and the first mission's based on the siege of Osaka, so around 1615.
Lucky Forward
Member
Thanks.
Japanese.
Guard: Sir, are we just going to leave them there? Shouldn't we remove the bodies?
Officer: ......no.
Kaffeemann
Banned
THIS GAME.
It took me two and a half hours to complete the fifth mission.
Killing guards is also way too much fun. I even do it when I don't have to
It took me two and a half hours to complete the fifth mission.
But blowing up the target and his samurai with a grenade was worth it.