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Shahid Kamal: "Two words you're going to hear a lot of on PS4- 1080p/60fps"
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Not off to the best start in that case are we Shahid? There's already plenty of titles on the PS4 that aren't 60fps. Not that I care, I want my games rendered at 1080p and locked at 30fps if it means they look better as a result (Second Son *drools*), but he shouldn't make grand statements like this if his company can't already abide by them.
Unless he's referring solely to indie games. If he is then okay, fair enough.
Unless he's referring solely to indie games. If he is then okay, fair enough.
It's important to remember that Shahid mostly works with indies and any statements he makes about stuff like this should mostly be considered to be about indies.
shinobi602
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Think it was Borderlands 2.
Hurt and Scared
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To be fair Flow in 60fps might be
fastford58
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Every game outputs to 1080 though.
Dead Prince
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They could say x isn't 1080p60fps. So you'll hear that
i really hope 1080p 60fps becomes the standard this gen
I'll believe the 1080p bit, but we aren't at the 60fps point yet Sony. Show me consistent 1080p/60fps and then I'll scratch out that note on your picture.
SEGAvangelist
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Considering all the indie and PSN only titles coming I'm sure we'll hear those "two words" together quite often. Dangerous words to say from him. I hope they live up to it, though. Uncharted 4 at 1080p 60fps would be pretty swell.
You could say the same for Xbox One...
TonkuySlon
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So will XBONE...#upscaled!
Oh lol I though he was a Sony guy, nvm then. Well on indie games I don't see why not.
Edit: wait he is a Sony guy that works with indies. Now I get it.
Reading comprehension is lacking for some people. It's amazing how quick someone will point out 1 game out of the library while ignoring the many games of the lineup that are 1080p/60 FPS. This statement will always be brought up now when we find out a game is 1080p/30 FPS. GG Shahid
Sloane_Ranger
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Please let his tweet be one of honest deep down excitement - and not the beginning of hubris ....
Are you not fond of the console war?
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NoirVisage
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your name does not suit you, but I understand your qualms.
except you can't.
brandonh83
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Hopefully this doesn't backfire in some capacity. I hope he knows what he's talking about.
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Good. The most powerful console should have the best graphics.
Cow Goes Moo
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it's a similar situation with the xbox, call of dooty? 720p, battlefield? 720p
"xbox can't do 1080p", but it can, there are games like forza, and nba 2k14
besides shahid didn't say everything will be 1080p @ 60fps
just a lot of them will be
It's just going to be a lot of selective people going
"BUT WHAT ABOUT *insert title*
it's going to be like that for both systems
Oh yeah. I missed that. Well, grabbing a knife.
NoirVisage
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It will not, after a point, you just have to accept that one of them is taking less effort to reach a minimum. and the real start of the next gen will begin.
Reading comprehension is lacking for some people. It's amazing how quick someone will point out 1 game out of the library while ignoring the many games of the lineup that are 1080p/60 FPS. This statement will always be brought up now when we find out a game is 1080p/30 FPS. GG Shahid
He did say "Give me 60 or give me death", so the amount of games in the launch lineup that already fail to meet that is relevant.
If he just said "you'll se a lot of 1080p/60fps games on the PS4", I'd be like "yeah, I know."
It would probably not even be thread worthy (it would get a thread anyway though)
WeAreStarStuff
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Edit: Never mind.
Portugeezer
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GTA5 60fps port confirmed.
what? i'm pretty sure lyricism has nothing to do with this dude.
Ricerocket
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He works with indies and theres going to be a lot of indie games on ps4 so saying a lot of 1080p/60fps shouldn't be a problem.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Good for the indie titles. Hopefully this stays the course the entire generation.
But for big AAA. Showmethereceipts.jpg
But for big AAA. Showmethereceipts.jpg
Personally, if I wanted 60fps 1080p w/o compromise, I'd play on PC. As such, while I find it commendable, eventually in years to come we will see substantial number of 30fps games. People didn't complain this entire generation and they won't now. I just want the devs not be restrained by arbitrary limits this gen.
Kazuma Kiryu
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Pretty much this. He's the indie guy at sony, and i'm pretty sure the vast majority of indie games will be able to do 1080p@60.
warframe and blacklight too, though i guess they might have cleaned those up since the end of september.
i feel like this is the sort of tweet that could come back to haunt a guy.
coughlanio
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Resogun, Flower, Flow, Escape Plan, Sound Shapes, Driveclub. Just ones I can name off the top of my head.
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I really don't have a problem with the "get a PC then" mentality (I did buy one last year for the 60fps greatness), but not every game is on PC. Not even talking about Sony exclusives, there are also console exclusives. I wish I could just buy Killer is Dead in another platform to play it at 60fps, but there was no such choice.
So yeah, while "play on PC" is a valid answer, it's not valid for everyone.
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...those aren't words.
hydrophilic attack
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As others have been saying, this is likely mostly related to indie games.
Still awesome!
Still awesome!
Last february, at reveal, no one from Sony was pushing for 1080p/60fps. Or maybe it wasn't their focus at the time.
But then something has changed, X1 was revealed to be less powerful, and Sony guys actually listened us about DRM and things... like 60fps.
This is from Stewart Gilray, Just Add Water's CEO, three days after X1 reveal:
Since then, GG was pushing for 60fps (revealed much later, KZ multi 60fps and then unlocked SP), Drive Club too (and then delayed)... What i think is, their position has changed, those games weren't designed for 60fps from the get-go, and looking at PS4's hardware superiority, maybe they understood the message we, as core as we are, claimed for years: 60fps is better, and they did because it's achievable without compromises against competition.
They know they have the "power gap" to do it. And i think they will push two things, physics (realizing their advantage in compute) and 60fps over X1's games. Because they know multiplatform will be kind of the same, and likely much closer to 1080p 60fps for PS4 when the same game targets 30fps on X1 (at 1080p or 900p, that's it).
And it's the best for them, because it can actually make PS4 the best place for core gamers (even if the graphical gap isn't as big as rumoured).
But then something has changed, X1 was revealed to be less powerful, and Sony guys actually listened us about DRM and things... like 60fps.
This is from Stewart Gilray, Just Add Water's CEO, three days after X1 reveal:
http://www.videogamer.com/news/sony_actively_pushing_for_60fps_1080p_with_ps4.html said:
Since then, GG was pushing for 60fps (revealed much later, KZ multi 60fps and then unlocked SP), Drive Club too (and then delayed)... What i think is, their position has changed, those games weren't designed for 60fps from the get-go, and looking at PS4's hardware superiority, maybe they understood the message we, as core as we are, claimed for years: 60fps is better, and they did because it's achievable without compromises against competition.
They know they have the "power gap" to do it. And i think they will push two things, physics (realizing their advantage in compute) and 60fps over X1's games. Because they know multiplatform will be kind of the same, and likely much closer to 1080p 60fps for PS4 when the same game targets 30fps on X1 (at 1080p or 900p, that's it).
And it's the best for them, because it can actually make PS4 the best place for core gamers (even if the graphical gap isn't as big as rumoured).
Warframe should have no problem getting stable 60 at 1080p, the game is not very demanding at all (it does look pretty good, but runs very well). Unless they added a bunch of graphical stuff to the PS4 version.
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