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[Mr. Pointy]

I'm pretty sure something inside Shane's head broke.

 

[capslock]

I think the secret message is that Shane has too much time on his hands.

 

[Jocchan]

:lol :lol :lol

 

[mr_bishiuk]

Now I know why how these 9/11 conspiracy stories start... you start reading things on the net and you start to believe it..... thankfully most of us can snap out of it!

 

[shuri]

Shane = Retarded

 

[TheKingsCrown]

:lol Well, if Kojima really believes that one exclusive game can a console war win, then he should have made MGS2 for the GameCube.

 

[DieH@rd]

Bwahahaha, really deep conspiracy. To bad it is totaly false.


Liquid wants to take over the world [maybe to take over power from Patriots], and Colonel wants him dead. FoxHound wants him dead.

And Snake is old man now, tired of killing...

 

[Effulgence]

All I have to say on this matter is that without a crazy conspiracy behind it, that trailer makes absolutely no sense and seems to be random sound clips from the game cut together over a cut-scene that makes absolutely no sense. Even for MGS standards this trailer is batshit.

 

[sky]

I think the trailer's just hinting at the new gameplay in MGS4.
Kojima has constantly been mentioning the idea of playing in a battlefield, but that it is still a sneaking game.

CAMPBELL: The system makes it possible to integrate not only micro-level information on individual soldiers and units...
But also macro-level information about field conditions and order of battle.

SNAKE: So, they've finally achieved total real-time battlefield control.

It's talking about playing the game!

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the genius of our time.

 

[Petrarca]

....so poetic, I almost cried

 

[hauton]

The trailer isn't THAT hard to follow if you've been following the plotline.

 

[Salazar]

I'm pretty sure something inside Shane's head broke.

Cue one of those intro scenes from House, where they zoom inside the body onto some synapse fork-lightning or a vessel gushing red where it shouldn't.

 

[Hurricane_Chris]

Tons of dumb shit on forums during E3 time. Fools go out of their minds this time of year.

 

[syfodyas]

LMAO.

Great thread!

Its so simple at the end of the day, Kojima will always remain Sonys bitch and MGS4 remain on PS3 (for the foreseeable future) irrespective of its floundering sales because of the MOVIE DEAL.

 

[Tim the Wiz]

:lol ...



... :lol . I laughed until I cried.

 

[Timedog]

Evil Bill Gates will score this exclusive away from the "infidels". He is all powerful.

I believe Shane, he has unlocked a powerful secret. The truck have started to move.

-Timedog

 

[Chris_C]

Is there a way we can archive this? I think it should be preserved for future generations.

 

[PleoMax]

O_O at OP

 

[Z_Y]

Let's just pretend for one second that whoever dreamt this up wasn't bat shit insane....

This last bit to me indicates that MGS4 is not exclusive...

SNAKE (kojima): "I'm no hero, never was… Just an old killer...hired to do some wet work"

Snake (Kojima) isn't a hero (exclusive to save PS3) but rather a hired hand to do the dirty work (make games).



Eh...maybe i should have finished my coffee before I responded to this thread. But I doubt anyone will notice my crazy amongst all the other crazy in this thread...so it is all good.


BTW, thanks for reminding why I haven't enjoyed/completed a MGS game since MGS1. Sheesh. There is a word I'm looking for that describes this but I'm no English major. Ahh yes...here it is...ostentatious.

 

[Oni Jazar]

You know if this theory would have been about ANYONE OTHER THEN KOJIMA, I would have called this post crazy instantly. But Kojima is one crazy muther f-er. If someone would have sat you down 7 years ago and explained to you the whole story of MGS2 the reactions here would be exactly the same. :lol

 

[Kabuki Waq]

I believe you are speaking of MGS3

of all MGS games so far.

 

[Beer Monkey]

MGS2 and 3 sold to something like 6% of PS2 owners and Kojima thinks that MGS 4 is a 'hired hit' on Microsoft? :lol

Anybody who thinks that one title can decide the battle between PS3 and 360 is on drugs. Shane is losing it.

 

[commissar]

I think the trailer's just hinting at the new gameplay in MGS4.
Kojima has constantly been mentioning the idea of playing in a battlefield, but that it is still a sneaking game.

CAMPBELL: The system makes it possible to integrate not only micro-level information on individual soldiers and units...
But also macro-level information about field conditions and order of battle.

SNAKE: So, they've finally achieved total real-time battlefield control.

It's talking about playing the game!

Wow, this is actually plausible :O



Serious post in a conspiracy thread FTW

 

[ThomPayne]

You know if this theory would have been about ANYONE OTHER THEN KOJIMA, I would have called this post crazy instantly. But Kojima is one crazy muther f-er. If someone would have sat you down 7 years ago and explained to you the whole story of MGS2 the reactions here would be exactly the same. :lol

There's one flaw in your reasoning: No one can explain the story to MGS2. Nice try though.

 

[Calcaneus]

You know, when you get paid to talk about games, it probably would help to not do these things.

1.) It really could rile up the public.

2.) Its really out there.

 

[Orlics]

There's one flaw in your reasoning: No one can explain the story to MGS2. Nice try though.

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=926596&topic=31727835

 

[Mash]

I noticed some of the dialogue and undertones could have been construed like the fight between Microsoft and Sony the first time I saw it, I didn't think it was trying to be too subtle. But then again, any form of conflict can be forced to fit this scenario.

 

[ThomPayne]

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=926596&topic=31727835

I was making a joke....

But thanks for the link.

 

[ThirdEye]

Wow Bettenhausen is a true Sony paranoiac :lol

 

[Rufus]

first of all: lol

secondly: I also think that this Trailer has a deeper meaning. I don't think these are scenes we're going to the in the game. they are just too weird.

Too weird? What franchise are we talking about again? :lol

Anyway, was he drunk? When did he notice the first 'clues'? Does the system war occupy people's mind's really that much that they start to see things? Wait, ye it does. Stealth trolls confirmed.

 

[Triumph]

I am now exponentially dumber for having read that. Why does this person have a job?

 

[cartoon_soldier]

So, Global Economy is a metaphor for Sony?

 

[Shig]

What allegory are Raiden's massive, child-bearing hips supposed to represent?

 

[skip]

uh, guys...the crazy bolded stuff in the OP isn't from shane, as confessed by the OP himself.

thisisneogaf.dude

 

[Frog]

I don't think I'd go as far as the original post, but there are some things I think Kojima puts in that relate to himself or the MGS series in a "meta" sense. Similar to the last trailer, Snake is old and tired of fighting Metal Gears, Kojima is old and tired of making Metal Gears. They've been hired for one final "mission." Also, "Nine years" and "first/third generation" is just too perfect of a match. Kojima is crazy, this is the kind of stuff he does. I see it as more of a joke from Kojima rather than a "secret message". Don't forget last E3 (or was it TGS?): "Snake, Cell is the secret to winning the console war!"

 

[Haunted]

well here's the deal, I attempted to transcribe the dialog to reveal a secondary meaning to each line.

there are probably many errors with my transcription but it does seem almost plausible considering the second half of the trailer was basically homosexual erotica between vamp and raiden.

 

[drohne]

this is a new low for shane. and this is a man, let's keep in mind, who raised his fist and said 'sdf victory' when sony showed some good stuff at tgs

 

[Chris_C]

Why is everyone ragging on Shane? All he said is that it's possible it's a metaphor, and it's definitely possible. What's crazy is the OP, which Shane had nothing to do with. GAF, LEARN TO READ.

 

[nofi]

this is a new low for shane. and this is a man, let's keep in mind, who raised his fist and said 'sdf victory' when sony showed some good stuff at tgs

Dammit, it's got VERY LITTLE to do with Shane. I wish people would read.

 

[drohne]

no, i'm aware that the full text isn't shane's. but reading sony propaganda into game dialogue is pretty far out there

 

[ice cream]

E3 has officially got to to people...

 

[besada]

I feel as if someone has poured a gallon of stupid in my eyes. Stop it.

 

[NME]

MERYL (sony): "nine years ago, at shadow moses. I injected it into your body (nanomachines')"

Not Meryl, but Naomi.

 

[Lost Fragment]

I dub this "Best Thread of E3"

 

[Like the hat?]

That may be the worst thing I've ever read.

both :lol and /thread

 

[Ristamar]

no, i'm aware that the full text isn't shane's. but reading sony propaganda into game dialogue is pretty far out there

Very true. To be fair, didn't they pimp the Cell processor in the dialogue of the first MGS4 trailer? Of course, it wasn't exactly cryptic or subtle either.

 

[ManaByte]

I think Shane has finally lost it.

 

[Tf53]

But what's inside the box? :O

No, no, that's irrelevant. You have to think outside the box!

 

[nofi]

I think Shane has finally lost it.

I give up.