Ah. Okay then.
Someone should see how the rowboat part compares. The fog would help it look not as atrocious.
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Silent Hill HD Collection on PS3 gets a new update with fixes and improvements
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Ah. Okay then.
Someone should see how the rowboat part compares. The fog would help it look not as atrocious.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Bluepoint are great, wonder if there's scope for them to do a Sony Santa Monica and employ a few people to help other studios with their remasters
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Didn't get any v1.02 patch, but the framerate in SH3 seems to have improved after I installed the v1.01 patch.
Slappers Only
Junior Member
This whole thing is just stupid. What a terrible way to handle the port.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
Hey everyone: I've created a comparison image between Silent Hill 2 (Xbox) running on my 360 and the new v1.02 of Silent Hill 2: HD Collection on my PS3.
This isn't scientific; I just took a few snaps of each version running off my TV. Don't read anything into colour saturation or any other differences; I was playing with settings while I did this.
You can see that in some situations, the fog looks quite good; however, the "fog wall" is still readily apparentsomething I could never, ever reproduce when playing the Xbox 1 version. No matter the angle, speed, area, etc., I could never see that line. In the HD Collection, it's still there, albeit less so, I guess.
I can confirm that the framerate is much, much better. Other than a few hitches here and there, the PS3 game now runs as it should when you're outdoors.
Click here for the mega-sized version.
oh god its like a (crappy) texture overhaul mod for a bethesda game, but done "professionally".
TheJollyCorner
Member
man, freshly painted street-lines, too!
Don't quit your day job, Pyramid Head. No, really. You're good!
Hmmmm....
TheJollyCorner
Member
by then patch v4.08 might actually have this game looking/playing like an actual, respectable HD remake!
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Voice sync was still completely fucking whack though, at least during the final cutscene in the church. Finished SH3, started up SH2 now, and the framerate has definitely been improved, but the 'wall of fog' is still there.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I think the day 1 patch was for the US version, as the EU version supposedly shipped with some fixes that weren't in the US version. Something like that.
Mr. Enigma
Member
In case anybody needs a refresher or enlightenment as to what was wrong with HD Collection with extensive side-by-side video comparisons:
Silent Hill 2: THIS GAME SUCKS: Silent Hill HD Collection (Part 1)
Silent Hill 3: THIS GAME SUCKS: Silent Hill HD Collection (Part 2)
Silent Hill 2: THIS GAME SUCKS: Silent Hill HD Collection (Part 1)
Silent Hill 3: THIS GAME SUCKS: Silent Hill HD Collection (Part 2)
AzureSkies
Member
So does anyone know if the framerate has been improved in Silent Hill 3 PS3? I was cautious about playing the game as I heard that the game is near unplayable due to the framerate getting progressively worse overtime.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I started up SH3 again after the patch, from my save at the beginning of the church, and the framerate was generally fine. Not as rock solid as in the original PS2 version, but much better than what it used to be.
TemplaerDude
Member
So no word on a 360 patch? I've had this sitting on my shelf for a couple months now, so that's kind of depressing. I never played the originals so I didn't have any memories to compare it to, but when I popped it in and played about 20 minutes of SH2 my first thoughts were "huh" "okay" "this isn't terrible I guess" right up until a point where you first get into town and the camera pans off to a "person in the distance walking away" and it's incredibly obvious with the shitty fog that it's not a fucking "person" but a zombie thing. So I turned it off and vowed not to touch it till I get a patch. But now I'm not getting any patch, and that makes me a sad panda : (
So both games are playable? I'd feel bad for giving them money on this asstastic port but I really wanna play these games again
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
The problems are far to deep to be patched out, PC or PS2 is the only way to go for now.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I'm sure there'll be a patch for 360 too, but the PS3 version was the most broken one, and the one in most dire need of a fix.
So both games are playable? I'd feel bad for giving them money on this asstastic port but I really wanna play these games again
They're playable, yeah, but you'd be better off getting the PS2 versions. Or if you don't have a PS2, getting the PC versions.
disappeared
Banned
On a side note: any word on Downpour's patch?
VillageNinja
Banned
Was it not enough for Konami to beat the shit out of this franchise year after year, they had to travel back in time and start it all over again?
At least Shenmue fans didn't have to stand by and watch it happen.
At least Shenmue fans didn't have to stand by and watch it happen.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
Thanks for posting those; they're really informative.
I've never played a Silent Hill game, and I was really looking forward to buying this HD collection, until I saw screenshot comparisons right before it was released. Even as somebody who has no nostalgia for the old games, I can see that these aren't trivial issues; these are game-spoiling flaws that make these ports far inferior to the originals.
I got excited when I saw this thread, but the patch doesn't seem to have made much of a difference, from what I've seen and heard.
I'm still going to pass, and I'll get around to playing the PS2 versions at some point instead.
Pretty much anything can be fixed with a patch.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Can't polish a turd.
Gentleman Jack
Member
We need a new metaphor since the mythbusters squashed this one.
MidgarBlowedUp
Member
So basically, get SH2:GH for PS2 or SH2:RD for Xbox & SH3 for PS2 and play them on a CRT or get the PC versions?
kunonabi
Member
They aren't releasing a patch with the original voices for SH3 so it's pretty much fucked. The VA and script changes will continue to be screwed up and audio design with the shuffled music tracks, added baby noises and shitty audio transitions are here to stay. The collection is shit and will continue to be shit no matter how many performance issues they fix. This HD collection will never be anything other than cheap cash grab. I still can't believe they took as many artistic changes as they did. The stuff with Mary's eye and the videotape is just ridiculous.
Actually that Mary's eye thing is a welcome and very creepy glitch.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Yep, pretty much. The fog in SH2:GH for PS2 is better than in the Xbox and PC versions though, IIRC.
AzureSkies
Member
I've heard bad things about Silent Hill 2's PC port so I would recommend going with the PS2 or Xbox versions unless someone can correct me on this. However: The PC version of Silent Hill 3 is really well done and completely worth playing. If it's your only option though, I would recommend playing the HD Collection. The games are flawed but the experience is still there.
DidntKnowJack
Member
This game doesn't need a patch, it needs a recall. Isn't this port based on an unfinished beta version of the PS2 games?
Doesn't really matter anyway. I sold this POS a long time ago. I'll stick with the PS2 versions.
Doesn't really matter anyway. I sold this POS a long time ago. I'll stick with the PS2 versions.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
It's based on the source code for the beta version of SH2, yeah. Dunno about SH3. The only way to completely fix these ports would be to have the games ported over from scratch again, but that's obviously not gonna happen.
AzureSkies
Member
The only way to fix these ports would be to offer PS3 users free downloads of Silent Hill 2 & 3 on PSN Classics.
I'd prefer it any day over the HD collections.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
What should have been done:
Reverse Engineer the PS2 Version Disc of SH2
Port Silent Hill 3 PC version.
Gentleman Jack
Member
They polished two!
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
They built the ports from in pre beta builds, to fixed it with patches would need you to replace everything, patches of multiple gigs.
Makes no sense, unless you think the HD Collections versions are good, but since you seem to be trying to make a joke about how the base games weren't to your liking then that seems improbable.
Gentleman Jack
Member
I wasn't even talking about the game. Behold!
On the record, I'm happy they're replacing the missing sounds (the foghorn gone in SH2 was just awful) but I'm setting realistic expectations of this patch fixing framerate issues, a few fog problems and little else. They'll be visually repugnant to those accustomed to the details found in the PC versions but at least they'll be playable (and affordable!) versions of the best survival horror of the ps2 generation. I guess I could join the chorus of 'HD Collection is horrible boo this Konami booo!' but that's not as interesting to me.
The first few sections in the forest don't look too bad. Afterwords, it turns into a mess. Looks way to clean and the fog wall is still outrageous. Almost looks like a grey texture wall. Who thought it was a good idea to use that type of road texture? Is there construction going on in silent hill? Are the monsters laying fresh concrete and painting the lines too?
The one thing that really pissed me off was this :
The fact that the game was known to be broken well before the release, yet it came out anyway.
This is supposed to be a town consumed in darkness after the events of Silent Hill 1.
Having freshly painted streets looks like the events of Silent Hill 1 are happening as soon as you walk there.
Psychologically it throws off the premise that you're in a abandoned town.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Not in this sense. At the root, the HD Collection is still based on incomplete, beta versions of SH2 and SH3. No patch can completely fix what's wrong with these.
The one thing that really pissed me off was this :
The fact that the game was known to be broken well before the release, yet it came out anyway.
Yeah, Hulett bailed from the thread quickly once people started noticing how deep and abundant the problems were. He was long gone by the time those THIS GAME SUCKS videos released.
Deception..... Disgrace......
slackboy72
Banned
If this patch is the business I'm picking up the HD collection STAT.
AzureSkies
Member
So I loaded up an earlier Silent Hill 2 save to see how well the fog has been changed on 1.02:
Sorry for the bad quality of the images, but that's the best I could really get right now. While it's not game-breaking, it's annoying that Konami haven't fixed a notorious bug that completely kills the atmosphere of the game. I thought Tom said that they were reading forums to see all of the bugs players had so that they could fix them. I really doubt they would have missed out on this problem.
So far it's foggy, that's not a bad sign.
Okay, while the water may not be fixed. At least this scene will probably not look as hilariously bad as before.
God damn it Konami.
Sorry for the bad quality of the images, but that's the best I could really get right now. While it's not game-breaking, it's annoying that Konami haven't fixed a notorious bug that completely kills the atmosphere of the game. I thought Tom said that they were reading forums to see all of the bugs players had so that they could fix them. I really doubt they would have missed out on this problem.