I'm cautiously optimistic about this patch... might actually pick the game up now.
Ah. Okay then.
Someone should see how the rowboat part compares. The fog would help it look not as atrocious.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this patch... might actually pick the game up now.
One of the saddest and most lol-worthy things I ever saw was that article about the various HD Collections where Tomm Hulett goes "Many consumers don't realize you can't just buy a copy of SH2 and then open up its code in a usable state" and literally two paragraphs later the guy from Bluepoint (authors of GOOD HD Collections) goes "We take retail discs of the game and reverse engineer them. That way we can be 100% sure we have all the final retail data and that it matches up."
I shouldn't be hard on Tomm now because I'm absolutely THRILLED that we even got a patch at all and he really does seem to care about the franchise, but the whole thing so far has just been ugly and unnecessary, and the fact that Hijinx couldn't be bothered to reverse engineer retail copies of the games to make sure that they work (because that would take too much time, apparently) is proof enough that the Collection shouldn't even exist.
Hey everyone: I've created a comparison image between Silent Hill 2 (Xbox) running on my 360 and the new v1.02 of Silent Hill 2: HD Collection on my PS3.
This isn't scientific; I just took a few snaps of each version running off my TV. Don't read anything into colour saturation or any other differences; I was playing with settings while I did this.
You can see that in some situations, the fog looks quite good; however, the "fog wall" is still readily apparentsomething I could never, ever reproduce when playing the Xbox 1 version. No matter the angle, speed, area, etc., I could never see that line. In the HD Collection, it's still there, albeit less so, I guess.
I can confirm that the framerate is much, much better. Other than a few hitches here and there, the PS3 game now runs as it should when you're outdoors.
Click here for the mega-sized version.
I see the Silent Hill street zamboni is still wandering the streets.
Hmmmm....Didn't get any v1.02 patch, but the framerate in SH3 seems to have improved after I installed the v1.01 patch.
I'll probably wait a year from now and pick this up for 7.99 in a Wal Mart bin.
If the patch fixes problems, that is.
Hmmmm....
Wasn't there a day 1 patch on PS3? I remember people lolling over it in the original thread, so if you aren't running 1.02 or higher... doubt that anything has changed.
Combichristoffersen said:I think the day 1 patch was for the US version, as the EU version supposedly shipped with some fixes that weren't in the US version. Something like that.
So does anyone know if the framerate has been improved in Silent Hill 3 PS3? I was cautious about playing the game as I heard that the game is near unplayable due to the framerate getting progressively worse overtime.
I started up SH3 again after the patch, from my save at the beginning of the church, and the framerate was generally fine. Not as rock solid as in the original PS2 version, but much better than what it used to be.
I'll probably wait a year from now and pick this up for 7.99 in a Wal Mart bin.
If the patch fixes problems, that is.
So no word on a 360 patch? I've had this sitting on my shelf for a couple months now, so that's kind of depressing. I never played the originals so I didn't have any memories to compare it to, but when I popped it in and played about 20 minutes of SH2 my first thoughts were "huh" "okay" "this isn't terrible I guess" right up until a point where you first get into town and the camera pans off to a "person in the distance walking away" and it's incredibly obvious with the shitty fog that it's not a fucking "person" but a zombie thing. So I turned it off and vowed not to touch it till I get a patch. But now I'm not getting any patch, and that makes me a sad panda : (
So both games are playable? I'd feel bad for giving them money on this asstastic port but I really wanna play these games again
In case anybody needs a refresher or enlightenment as to what was wrong with HD Collection with extensive side-by-side video comparisons:
Silent Hill 2: THIS GAME SUCKS: Silent Hill HD Collection (Part 1)
Silent Hill 3: THIS GAME SUCKS: Silent Hill HD Collection (Part 2)
The problems are far to deep to be patched out, PC or PS2 is the only way to go for now.
Pretty much anything can be fixed with a patch.
Can't polish a turd.
Pretty much anything can be fixed with a patch.
They aren't releasing a patch with the original voices for SH3 so it's pretty much fucked. The VA and script changes will continue to be screwed up and audio design with the shuffled music tracks, added baby noises and shitty audio transitions are here to stay. The collection is shit and will continue to be shit no matter how many performance issues they fix. This HD collection will never be anything other than cheap cash grab. I still can't believe they took as many artistic changes as they did. The stuff with Mary's eye and the videotape is just ridiculous.
So basically, get SH2:GH for PS2 or SH2:RD for Xbox & SH3 for PS2 and play them on a CRT or get the PC versions?
So basically, get SH2:GH for PS2 or SH2:RD for Xbox & SH3 for PS2 and play them on a CRT or get the PC versions?
We need a new metaphor since the mythbusters squashed this one.
This game doesn't need a patch, it needs a recall. Isn't this port based on an unfinished beta version of the PS2 games?
Doesn't really matter anyway. I sold this POS a long time ago. I'll stick with the PS2 versions.
It's based on the source code for the beta version of SH2, yeah. Dunno about SH3. The only way to completely fix these ports would be to have the games ported over from scratch again, but that's obviously not gonna happen.
The only way to fix these ports would be to offer PS3 users free downloads of Silent Hill 2 & 3 on PSN Classics.
I'd prefer it any day over the HD collections.
The only way to fix these ports would be to offer PS3 users free downloads of Silent Hill 2 & 3 on PSN Classics.
I'd prefer it any day over the HD collections.
They polished a turd?
That's just wrong.
Pretty much anything can be fixed with a patch.
They polished two!
Makes no sense, unless you think the HD Collections versions are good, but since you seem to be trying to make a joke about how the base games weren't to your liking then that seems improbable.
Can't polish a turd.
We need a new metaphor since the mythbusters squashed this one.
They polished a turd?
That's just wrong.
They polished two!
oh god its like a (crappy) texture overhaul mod for a bethesda game, but done "professionally".
One of the saddest and most lol-worthy things I ever saw was that article about the various HD Collections where Tomm Hulett goes "Many consumers don't realize you can't just buy a copy of SH2 and then open up its code in a usable state" and literally two paragraphs later the guy from Bluepoint (authors of GOOD HD Collections) goes "We take retail discs of the game and reverse engineer them. That way we can be 100% sure we have all the final retail data and that it matches up."
I shouldn't be hard on Tomm now because I'm absolutely THRILLED that we even got a patch at all and he really does seem to care about the franchise, but the whole thing so far has just been ugly and unnecessary, and the fact that Hijinx couldn't be bothered to reverse engineer retail copies of the games to make sure that they work (because that would take too much time, apparently) is proof enough that the Collection shouldn't even exist.
The first few sections in the forest don't look too bad. Afterwords, it turns into a mess. Looks way to clean and the fog wall is still outrageous. Almost looks like a grey texture wall. Who thought it was a good idea to use that type of road texture? Is there construction going on in silent hill? Are the monsters laying fresh concrete and painting the lines too?
Pretty much anything can be fixed with a patch.
The one thing that really pissed me off was this :
The fact that the game was known to be broken well before the release, yet it came out anyway.
So far it's foggy, that's not a bad sign.
Okay, while the water may not be fixed. At least this scene will probably not look as hilariously bad as before.
God damn it Konami.