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SM3DW sells 107k in Japan, lowest 3D Mario debut ever
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What do those numbers mean?
The Wii U had a decent launch. It was afterwards that it all went to pot. If anything EA should be the first thing on the list as that was the first big strike against the Wii U after all the talks about the infamous partnership.
The Lamonster
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Japan has bad taste confirmed?
Tesseract
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yeah it really is a bummer, i had a blast playing the game with friends.
It's going to sell for the life of the console. the question is how long it will live.
The idea of a system seller is that it makes people buy systems.
Pretty much this. Sega did it twice with the 32X then the Saturn and it killed the damn company. You just can't scrap a system and start over within a year. It just doesn't work that way.
They should change that then. It won't help Nintendo at all if they don't.
evilromero
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How does that explain higher sales for a launch title with a zero install base? Or every other Mario selling better on a system with a small install base? There's no getting around this.
Dropping it to $199 would be going down in flames.
It's a good question, but i don't think digitals sales are the majority of games sold.
FonkyByNature
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Damn, i'm sad for Nintendo, i want them to do good.
I'm actually buying a copy of Super Mario 3D World and will borrow my brother's Wii U to play it in the holidays. This game deserves to be played by all gamers.
I'm actually buying a copy of Super Mario 3D World and will borrow my brother's Wii U to play it in the holidays. This game deserves to be played by all gamers.
zomgbbqftw
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Nothing. Literally nothing. It's a poor attempt to paint 3D Mario as irrelevant, when in the most comparable situation it caused a 300% rise in hardware sales (Sunshine on GCN).
The WiiMote was a vastly superior selling point than anything the WiiU will ever have.
Nobody brought Nintendo's consoles for online or thir party games? Sounds like a problem for Nintendo, because there is clearly a market for that. That market only Nintendo is not part of.
There was actually a thread that predicted the WiiU's fate in complete opposite way.
This is a very tough industry I guess.
Davey Cakes
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Ask anyone who owns a Wii U and/or has at least played the game, and I doubt you'll see any concern over this. SM3DW is absolutely gorgeous to the point where no one really cares that it's not on the highest end of powerful hardware.
Like, how the game looks is the absolute last thing that anyone should be concerned about.
Your post just seemed really shallow to me and is part of the problem with gaming. You say the game looks awesome but then you go into this "what could be" scenario and it shouldn't matter. Just stick with "the game looks awesome" because that's the truth.
No one bought an original Xbox for their online social experiences or their third party games but Microsoft still courted third parties and built an amazing online infrastructure for the 360, which paid off handsomely for them.
"Nintendo hasn't done that before so it's okay for them not to now" is not working out for the Wii U.
It's launching at an awkward time. I'd pick a copy up Friday, but it's the same day I get my PS4. I think lot's of people's minds are on the PS4 and Xbone at the moment. That said, Japan don't care about the Xbone and the PS4 is months away. Maybe it was just a bad week for game sales, or digital copies weren't included?
-MD-
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I agree, they should. I'm just sayin.
I think the biggest issue with the WiiU (outside of it having only 1 real system selling exclusive) is the price. An online service connected with 3DS would be greatly appreciated but it shouldn't take priority.
Priority is getting some goddamn games on the console and getting away from the $299 price.
Rhazer Fusion
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Scrapping the Wii U now would most likely ensure that Nintendo fans will never trust another Nintendo console anytime soon imo. I feel that most people wouldn't be in a rush to purchase another Nintendo console after your $350 investment was scrapped within a little over a year? That is what hurt Sega so bad.
Handhelds being distinctively more popular in Japan?
What, so the Wii, N64, GC had Wii U level install bases in Japan did they? LOL
It caused a 300% rise in HW... 11 years ago.
comparing 3DW to more recent releases would make more sense.
No so so it could still beat Mario 64 DS
metalslimer
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Or no one gives a shit about the console or the game. Maybe it's finally time for the excuses to end.
Psycho_Mantis
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It shows that 3D mario games sell very well in Japan which the poster was disagreeing with. yes it also shows it has impressive legs but so far every game on WiiU has had terrible legs.
NSMB and Pikmin are series that also have great legs yet the WiiU counterparts showed significantly fewer sales after the first week than previous entries.
Agree. That's why it shouldn't have been exclusive to the less attractive and valuable console on the market.
zomgbbqftw
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The Wii is not a comparable system and when SMG came out hardware was in short supply.
The Wii U is most comparable to GCN and it has failed, once again, to even live up to that low standard.
Spieler Eins
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No joy, but a bit of a relief. Never has a first year been so bad for a Nintendo console, even though the predecessor was already dead for 2 years on top of that. Then it culminates in some standard Mario sequel that's nowhere near the legacy of a Galaxy or 64 and others, regardless of good reviews.
So Nintendo getting constant slapping for their abysmal WiiU efforts can only be a good thing, at one point they might just finally learn their lesson - especially when now comparing it to what made the 3DS work again (Although the WiiU is a lost cause, but they should now try to get their shit together for the next console)
If this shitty console strategy (copy everything that worked on other platforms in the past couple of years without major changes) succeeded however... god help us all
Phoenician_Viking
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If Japanese thought that it was a good game they would have bought it in droves.
That's what I'm saying. I'm in the US but everyone IRL I know got it digitally. MC is always missing a large chunk of data.
Captain Smoker
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And what is your attempt with this statement?
That we should've expected a 300% rise of Wii U sales? Did you expect this?
The GCN had a pricedrop in June, Sunshine, as the first major 3D title after Mario 64 came out in July, a spike in June, sales fell and rised on Sunshines release, furthermore, it's easier to achieve higher %ages with lower sales.
People bought the system when the price dropped or when Sunshine came out, this (and the fact that we didn't have that much 3D Marios or Marios in such a short time) led to a higher effect in the launch week.
Numbers are bad in comparison, but there are reasons for it, did you really believe that 3D World would do wonders? It didn't help the GCN either, despite the 300%.
Sony and MS had a long time to prepare for thier consoles and they still had some rocky starts. Do people really think you can whip together a console in a year?
If Nintendo starts not it will take at least 2 years to launch if you poor everything into it.
That was my problem with the price drop. Now that it has proven that the public can force Nintendo into price drops so easily, that is a precedence. People already have either a PS4 or X1, why would they buy another console for $400+? They are going to ignore it knowing Nintendo or retailers will drop the price.
People are still waiting for it to drop to $99.
Anyway, Neogaf has spoilt me into caring about sales. I had the GCN and enjoyed it immensely without knowing how it was selling. I only found out in the last 2 or so years how bad it sold.
I would love to do the same with the Wii U. I am enjoying it a lot and Mario is just a great game in every sense of the word.
LiquidMetal14
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That's the harsh reality.
McHuj
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I don't care about anyone else's concern over this but mine. It's part of the reason I didn't buy a WiiU. And that's not my problem, but Nintendo's since I'm a lost sale.
evilromero
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Mario 64 launched on the N64? Not a handheld? There's no way to spin this I'm afraid. Why are you so adamant to defend their failure? It happens. Not everything has a Hollywood ending.
So much for all the positive Wii U news. If the "only must play game" this holiday can't sell this fucking console nothing can. It's kinda sad, though, watching people try and put positive spin on this after the chest puffing about how this was the game that would get the U back on track. Nothing is going to get console back on track short a REAL price cut, and I'm not talking $200 any more, it needs to be $150.
metalslimer
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Sales != quality.
Stone Ocean
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Yep. People simply don't want the console and not even a great Mario game can help.
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