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So, uh, I think I was just sexually assaulted.

Aphexian

Member
Thankfully his friend pulled him away and got him to leave and apologize, but it was very weird.


The good thing about that is that someone was there to shame him and make sure he knew he was doing something wrong in the moment and hopefully remind him about it later. So, if you do decide to just let it go there was some sort of acknowledgement of what he did was wrong.
 

DriftedPlanet

Unconfirmed Member
Actually, listen to these guys. I shouldn't try to push you to report anything if you don't feel comfortable with doing so.
OP, you should do whatever you are most comfortable doing. If you feel up to reporting it, you should. If you don't, that's OK, too. You are not responsible for that man, just because he victimized you.
Only if you're comfortable, I'd suggest telling the owner or manager of the bar, they'll probably be a lot more understanding than the police because this stuff unfortunately happens all the time and bars are used to dealing with it. Chances are the guy is a regular, so they'll be able to identify him next time and kick him out.
I also added the coercion, just exposing yourself isn't assault. You can intimidate someone without force, but just whipping a dick out is not usually considered threatening.

Doesn't matter what anyone here thinks anyways. Still illegal whatever it is and should be reported if the OP wants to.

Harassment or assualt

RAINN, sexual harassment "others exposing themselves" and you cam check assualt where that isnt mentioned and includes physicality of some sort.
Yeah, I'd maybe find a man on here or reddit who has reported male-on-male sexual assault and see what their experiences were. Its easy to post on the internet "you should report it to the cops" but I imagine the reality of dealing with it is going to be a lot more traumatic than any of us can imagine, especially if you haven't really figured out if you are gay or not - what if you have to go to court, what if shows up in the paper, etc.

It'll depend a lot on where you live too, I think the consequences of reporting it in Texas will be wildly different than in San Francisco or NYC.

Maybe find a therapist and talk to them as well, not just about this incident but about how you feel as a person.
^these above.
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Not a lawyer, but pretty sure this is sexual harassment, not assault. Assault would involve some form of touching or coercion, just exposing yourself without any touching is usually just harassment, at least at all the briefs I've attended with people trying to explain what these are and what actions people should take if they encounter it.

Still fucked up, and OP, you really should do what you think is best, reporting it, not reporting, whatever. Make sure you get to a place where you feel comfortable, you didn't do anything wrong and actually seemed to have kept very level head.

Wish you the best and sorry people are fucked up.
Read the updates. Regardless of your thoughts on the public exposure, the person in question did feel up the OP. It's assault.
Well I'm a guy.

I guess this is just weird to me because it was two guys in this situation, and I was honestly interested in experimenting but he took it to the next level by violation what I consider to be the "public" vs. "private" place. Like, in all honesty, I was interested in trying it out but made it clear I wasn't comfortable with certain actions and he just didn't seem to listen and whipped it out, which is where things went south.

Like, it's weird because I feel almost homophobic with being disgusted with him even though I know, regardless of gender, what he did was not OK. But part of me feels guilty for almost like leading him on, though I feel I made it clear what I was and was not OK with doing.

Not your fault. Not at all.
 
OP, I'm sorry this happened. It's not your fault and I hope you stay safe with whatever you do next, pursuing it or not. I'm further sorry for a few of the replies in this thread.
 

Hylian7

Member
OP, you are not obligated to explain yourself to anyone here or anywhere. That guy was an asshole to you and this is in no way your fault.
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Luckily the guy signed his own arrest warrant by telling you where he worked. It is 100% sexual assault, and there is zero defense of what the guy did.

If you feel comfortable doing so, I highly suggest reporting it. You have his workplace, so it's not like finding him would be hard.
 

Painguy

Member
Damn. Dat sucks, U should have pointed and laughed.

My friend told me she does that in weird situations. LA is wild yo.
 

Ozigizo

Member
I'm missing something to call it assault did he physically touch you or obstruct you from leaving the bar? It just sounds like he was an intense weirdo, and you're better off removing him from your life for good.

Oh for fucks sake. You should educate yourself on what sexual assualt is, because clearly you have no clue.
 

Violet_0

Banned
keep in mind that, should you ever find yourself in a similar situation again, don't hesitate to just leave or draw attention to what's going on and ask for help if necessary. This guy was taking advantage of your inexperience
 

C4Lukins

Junior Member
Not that this is a situation I am familiar with.

But you were offered a secret blow job? Or if I read this right you agreed to a secret blow job?

It just seems like a situation you should have instantly walked away from if you were uncomfortable.

As a heterosexual male, if I were to approach a female in the same way you were approached, that would be a creepy form of sexual harassment.

Just super gross.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Really weird. I met some people who seemed pretty cool and went to a nearby bar for a drink.

Next thing I know, a dude has whipped his penis out and is telling me to bend over on the bar...
I had to stop reading here. You were sexually assaulted, there's no ambiguity here. Report him.
 
Don't let this experience sour your opinion of all gay men OP. This guy sounds like a total dickhead sociopath and I assume he was drunk/high (in no way an excuse for his behaviour).
 

moggio

Banned
I'm all for a danger blowie but it's the sort of thing you have to have a pre-arranged agreement about.

"Hey, I like to whip my knob out in public places, do you mind?"

"No, go ahead, I might even give it a tug under the table."

If you decide you don't want to report him you probably should not see him again as it sounds like you have low self esteem and are a prime target for these sorts of dickheads.

Go on Meetup.com or something and find a mixed local group with similar interests to join.
 
Echoing everybody else's sentiment here to make as compelling of a case as possible: you were sexually assaulted and should call the police immediately.

He is not the one needing to be protected, you are. It can be embarrassing and stressful to make a report but it is the right thing to do.

Please let somebody know what happened. Not just us! We are here to help, but this needs to be reported.
 

NEO0MJ

Member
Jesus, that was horrible of the man. Good thing you're okay, Birdie.

And I feel it was for the best that the guy didn't take up your offer and go to your apartment first because it might have gone bad if it was just you two.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
This needs to be reported, sorry that you had to witness this fuckery. Some people are freak
 

RickAstley

Neo Member
I had to stop reading here. You were sexually assaulted, there's no ambiguity here. Report him.

This is actually incorrect, at least in Ohio (and I assume many other states). Exposing one's genitals with no physical contact is considered Public Indecency and if it was the offender's first violation it would be a misdemeanor of the fourth degree.
 

LosDaddie

Banned
I'm not sure the incident can legally be considered sexual assault, but rather indecent exposure.

Either way, the OP should call the police if he feels that strongly about it. Or tell the bar manager about the incident, and have him banned.
 

mr jones

Ethnicity is not a race!
It's interesting how so many people think "assault" absolutely requires physical contact or it was something else.

Interesting, indeed...

I hate to be one of the ignorant, but I thought it required contact, as well. I'll educate myself. :(
 
Assault:

LAW
an act that threatens physical harm to a person, whether or not actual harm is done.
"he admitted an assault and two thefts".​

So as the threat was non-consensual sex, this qualifies as assault - sexual assault, specifically. Hopefully that clears things up for some people, and do correct me if I'm wrong.

Shouldn't be getting caught up in semantics, though - what he did was wrong.
 
I'm sorry that this happened to you OP. Your instinct is right...this was sexual assault no matter what the law says. Someone flaunted their genitals to you in public, and was getting aggressive with you to the point where you were afraid for your safety.

I hope that you're OK and feeling somewhat better now. That guy is a pervy creep that does creepy pervy stuff. In no way was this your fault.
 
You should at least report it to the police. If he acts like this around a stranger then he would probably do a lot worse in private. Don't contact him again and remove yourself from that group of people.
 

moeman

Member
I'm missing something to call it assault did he physically touch you or obstruct you from leaving the bar? It just sounds like he was an intense weirdo, and you're better off removing him from your life for good.

What the fuck?! Assault doesn't have to be physical for it to be considered assault.

"In criminal and civil law, assault is an attempt to initiate harmful or offensive contact with a person, or a threat to do so."

agree with ubermatik though. Semantics are the least of the concern. That's a shitty thing to do no matter what it's called and there should be consequences.
 

Apharmd

Member
Making light of and joking at OP's expense is seriously messed up. Some of y'all have to think before you hit that post button.
 

CGwizz

Member
What a weird story , the dude was a totaly a creepy fuck and you go and sujest a blowjob to him, then you say you are shy ? Sorry but i dont understand your behaviour in that situation.

You should have called the cops or management of the bar right when you saw him put out his dick and his ass would be in jail right now.

Edited : saw your second post explaining it better, yea that is sexual assault.
 

ElyrionX

Member
You offered to blow him after he whipped his dick out in front of you? Wait I don't think I am getting everything here.
 

NH Apache

Banned
Don't write off meeting people because of of this scum. There are good people out there just keep trying. Maybe a non bar environment.

I'm sorry this happened to you.
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Thing is apart from that incident the rest of the night was pretty smooth, I talked to some people about jobs and such and had a good time till the end...I felt more confident till I almost got, well, possibly raped? I walk home from the bar too and usually I feel perfectly safe but for once I was pretty nervous.

The dude in question was honestly pretty good looking, I prefer girls but I admit he was handsome---but he had this very odd sense of humor that bothered me. Kept joking about beating people up and punching me in the fact only to laugh it off. He was a pretty big dude so it did frighten me a bit, especially as I'm rather small so there was definitely a power dynamic here and it wasn't the same as two drunk bros duking it out for fun. I never felt I was on equal grounds with him, there was definitely a way he talked down to me and pushed me.

Also racist? He brought up Charlottesville around the time he started to get aggressive for some reason and made some gross jokes about it, honestly that turned me off more than the dick thing honestly---also bragged about using the "N' word, though the bar I was in seemed pretty redneck so I probably was the only one bothered unfortunately. Not to cast a blanket statement, but in my experience white gay guys tend to be the biggest users of the N-word as a casual joke. He also tossed around faggot a lot which I guess was supposed to be self-depreciating humor but that also made me uncomfortable. I don't mind drunk people who curse, provided they stick with non-targeted insults like fuck and shit and such, words that don't actually offend anyone specifically.

Anyway, I never met this dude before and from what I remember he works at a nearby restaurant (though not in walking distance) but his friend mentioned he was from out of town, so I guess just working for the summer? The friend, a girl, was very polite and seemed to be reigning him in the whole time and I believe she was actually in a higher position than him at his job, and was local, so hopefully she'll have a serious discussion with him about his actions. I really don't know if I'll contact the police to be honest, I'm a bit nervous admitting what happened, but I'm seeing a therapist for other issues right now so I'll probably bring it up with her.

The positive thing? I feel like the situation definitely made me realize how gross men can be and to avoid such behavior myself. I've actually been talking to a girl I like recently and this event gave me an "other side" perspective to avoid actions that come across as harassing and possessive. I want to strive to have an equal healthy relationship with someone rather than a weird hook-up.
 

Velikost

Member
Like, it's weird because I feel almost homophobic with being disgusted with him even though I know, regardless of gender, what he did was not OK.

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Nah dude, he assaulted you, and there's nothing homophobic about being repulsed when a dude whips out his dick and tries to fuck you in public.
 
Oooh, so this is about a gay Situation? Hm!
He definitely assaulted you - ans that's not okay. If you feel unsafe you should call the police, but...

Thatsmyfetish.gif (the public-dick not the assault-part).

You should definitely not stop seeing new people. There will be plenty of actually nice guys.
 
First time I met the guy and his friend, they were at one bar and when I was leaving they said hi to me and I suggested we go for a drink---you know, I wanted to socialize and meet new people. I knew they were into guys but that didn't bother me, I consider myself straight but am so inexperienced sexually I'm not exactly secure with that.

One dude bought me a drink and I was happy, but he was very aggressive but in a joking manner at first---I thought it was endearing so put up with it. He changed the subject a bit later to having sex and, well, to be honest I've never really done it with either gender so I said it's something I'd consider trying and I was up for it, but I didn't want to do anything too serious and was considering it. I mean, really, I was going to try it but then he just got weird and told me to do it here and I nicely told him if we were going to do anything I wanted it to be a private place, even offered to go back to my place. He got really agressive right then and started feeling me up and saying we do it there, I thought he was joking but then he pulled it out. That's when I freaked out, because I could tell he wasn't joking. Thankfully his friend pulled him away and got him to leave and apologize, but it was very weird.

On a positive note now I feel like I understand what a lot of women go through with men and made a promise to myself to never go that far---it's just weird.

Wait... are you a straight male?
 

Belker

Member
It's really difficult being a 27-year old out on your own and just looking for friends.

As sugested earlier, have you tried MeetUp? You can probably find local groups there where people are getting together to take part in a shared hobby, perhaps visiting a museum or taking art classes.

That way you can meet people in a relaxed, no booze, environment and you'll have something to talk about - paintings, music or whatever - rather than having to talk about each other. This might be less stressful than regular socialising.
 
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