I’m trying to think of tech that used to be really cool and cutting edge, but is now cheap and commodified.They will do what they always do. Come up with a new system that has some new ways to play ( what some like to call gimmicks) while retaining much of the traditional controls. And release new versions of their franchises that make use of the increase in power and the new ways to play. Come up with some new IP. Remaster/remake/rerelease some old games. ... I expect the form factor to remain the same.
AS for new ways to play:
1. The Switch form factor is setup to be a VR trojan horse. Labo VR showed a glimpse of the future once the Switch gets a higher res screen. Could that happen next gen? All depends on pricepoints of hi-res ~7" screens.
2. Also feel like Nintendo could do something with AR as well. They did some AR with the 3ds. Pokemon Go has some AR. Mario Kart:Home Circuit was all about AR.
3. what other cheap tech is out there to be unexpectedly utilized by Nintendo...inquiring minds want to know. What unheard of ways could they use cheap tech? What other tech could they use. Nintendo doesn't get enough credit for its use of cutting edge tech. They were first with wireless controllers. They did 3d in the 3ds. They had AR in the 3ds. Wii U did WiFI direct video transmission that had less lag than tv sets of of the day. Switch had a USB-C HDMI dock 4 1/2 years ago. They did touchscreens in 2004. Dual-screen too. ...
They have to do something new and interesting and to get a lot of people on board. Yes some just want a Switch 2 with more power and will be easy sells. But for a lot of people, a Switch 2 will look a lot like a Switch and they will need more convincing. New ways to play even if they ultimately are "gimmicks" not only get people to buy in but also freshen up franchises and add some fun factor and at the very least the sizzle to the steak. Remember the switch capability of the Switch won't be novel this time around.
noabandon the hybrid approach and reinvent an underpowered wheel...again
can't see them go the streaming route at all though since their online is NEVER up to even the most basic snuff.
They have basically never released a successful direct successor to a previous popular console/handheld, so I'm not so sure.
Ah, but what if it's something weird and stupid that everyone wants?Knowing Nintendo and following the traditional videogame company path of
1) Dominance and success
to
2) Arrogance and overconfidence
and then specific to Nintendo
3) Weird experimental shit
I'd say either they break the trend and do something conservative (Switch 2) that everyone wants to they make something really weird and stupid only the hardcore fans want.
Probably a gaming cap console, so you can throw it like Mario Odyssey to interact with your environment. It could be used for games similar to Pokemon Go where you throw the hat onto a pokemon to capture it.
That's actually an interesting trend. Every successor that Nintendo has released that has basically just been an upgraded form of the original concept/HW has not been as successful. When you look at their more traditional home consoles, the Gamecube sold less than the N64, which sold less than the SNES, which sold less than the NES. It took the unconventional Wii for them to have another big hit in the home market, again. Whose direct successor ended up being a big failure.They have basically never released a successful direct successor to a previous popular console/handheld, so I'm not so sure.
Switch 2 will probably just be a new Wii U or 3DS. They need to revamp their marketing if they are ever going to make one.
I'll hope against hope they'll stick to the hybrid model; it seems to resonate with the masses but then again, the masses are fickle and will move on to the next big thing, whatever that may be.
But just incase, for all you dedicated gaming hobbyists, people who enjoy getting into the inner workings of tech, visuals, performance, etc,; they don't make things for you anymore and they haven't since the Gamecube. They make novel hardware to support their software and whatever crazy ideas they might get. The fact that broad swathes of you can't seem to understand how the Switch is big seller prove you either don't or won't get it.
You're never going to get cutting edge tech, you're never going to get the latest and greatest big budget AAA games on their hardware. You're going to get weird shit that will not jive with about 70% of you, you're going to complain it's not for you, you're going to complain that "Nintendo is hold their IP hostage," or whatever perceived slight you feel they sent your way. The masses are where it's at and the masses are are who they're going to focus on. Go buy a Steamdeck.
I don't know if creatively bankrupt is the right term for it. They definitely play it safe when it comes to their SW. Same IPs pretty much every gen. And their output has definitely slowed down as the graphics have been pushed more. When it comes to HW, though, they definitely think outside of the box. The only problem is their HW doesn't always appeal to the mass market. And that seems to especially be the case when it's an updated version of the previous gen's model. They seem to do better when the HW idea is quite a bit different from the previous gen.I actually worry about whats next for Nintendo, at times they feel very out of touch. Creatively bankrupt possibly too. Their plan will only work for so long. They always mess up hardware after a success. The Switch may be an outlier. Logic would dictate more of the same and possibly an expansion deck for the home, external GPU style. That would ensure some future success. But there is a large portion that use if in handheld exclusively, so they need to make the best handheld experience possible. Hopefully they can sell 2 products with the external GPU for those who wish a more beefy home console.
SNES was the only by the books successor and the reason it didn't do as well was because of the Genesis. Assuming the Steamdeck isn't the Genesis that won't be a problem.That's actually an interesting trend. Every successor that Nintendo has released that has basically just been an upgraded form of the original concept/HW has not been as successful. When you look at their more traditional home consoles, the Gamecube sold less than the N64, which sold less than the SNES, which sold less than the NES. It took the unconventional Wii for them to have another big hit in the home market, again. Whose direct successor ended up being a big failure.
Even when you look at their handheld market, it's the same thing. The GBA sold quite a bit less than the Gameboy. They switched things up with the DS and found success. But, when they followed a similar model with the 3DS, they ended up with just under half the DS's sales. It took a different route of the Switch for them to find big success, again.
I know many on here say for them to just make a Switch 2, which is what I think they will probably do. However, if history continues to play out, it will not be as nearly as successful as the OG Switch, as the novelty of the hybrid will have worn off. And while I don't think it's a huge threat, they will also have the Steam Deck to compete with in that space. Which really is what lead me to think, where do they even go from here? I doubt a portable VR console would really be a hit or even be something they would want to focus an entire system around, again. Maybe a suit or straps are included with the system that would have haptic feedback in it. Of course, that would have niche appeal and probably be expensive.
I'll hope against hope they'll stick to the hybrid model; it seems to resonate with the masses but then again, the masses are fickle and will move on to the next big thing, whatever that may be.
But just incase, for all you dedicated gaming hobbyists, people who enjoy getting into the inner workings of tech, visuals, performance, etc,; they don't make things for you anymore and they haven't since the Gamecube. They make novel hardware to support their software and whatever crazy ideas they might get. The fact that broad swathes of you can't seem to understand how the Switch is big seller prove you either don't or won't get it.
You're never going to get cutting edge tech, you're never going to get the latest and greatest big budget AAA games on their hardware. You're going to get weird shit that will not jive with about 70% of you, you're going to complain it's not for you, you're going to complain that "Nintendo is hold their IP hostage," or whatever perceived slight you feel they sent your way. The masses are where it's at and the masses are are who they're going to focus on. Go buy a Steamdeck.
NES >> Super NESThey have basically never released a successful direct successor to a previous popular console/handheld, so I'm not so sure.
Switch 2 will probably just be a new Wii U or 3DS. They need to revamp their marketing if they are ever going to make one.
NES >> Super NES
GB>>GBA
oh wait you must be trolling
Yeah but they were not failuresDon't really know what you are on about.
SNES and GBA both sold less than their previous consoles.
Saying they were not successful was definitely a stretch, but he is right that none of their follow up consoles that kept the same basic premise/model of its predecessor have been met with the same success. They were on a steady decline until they came out with the unconventional Wii. But it's direct successor failed. The 3DS, while it can still be considered a success, failed to sell even half the units the DS did.Yeah but they were not failures
Well. They don't.Tell you one thing, no matter what Nintendo do next they should not take any advice from some of the experts on here.
Many were definitely wrong, myself included. But you can't say there wasn't logic in the belief. The 3DS failed to sell at $249, which forced Nintendo to drop the price $80 after just 5 months. The $299 Wii U was an abysmal failure. Kinda not hard to think a $299 Switch would have trouble reaching mass appeal.Tell you one thing, no matter what Nintendo do next they should not take any advice from some of the experts on here.
Betting time: Do you think the Switch will be a success?
I'm surprised most of GAF predicted the Switch to be a failure. They were massively wrong. Not surprised given the demographics, though WiiU definitely helped their narrative.www.neogaf.com