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Sonic Forces - Green Hill Gameplay
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With half ot them not understanding what physics in video games are.
ThatStupidLion
Member
a lot of things appear wrong. why are they pursuing 2d platformer sonic when Mania is already coming and superior?
thought forces was going to be more of the 3d adventure style sonic offshoot stuff
thought forces was going to be more of the 3d adventure style sonic offshoot stuff
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
I think we can retire the Green Hill Zone for a few years probably
C.Olimar788
Member
It's almost like the physics of the classic Sonic games are an important part of their identity as video games or something, and that when trying to emulate that style it is important to at least get close to that momentum-based gameplay. And that previous attempts to do just that from Sega have failed pretty miserably (Sonic 4, Generations to a lesser extent) so that such a thing would make sense to keep under scrutiny for upcoming Sonic titles.
It's going to be split like Generations. We've seen 3D Sonic gameplay already.
This is not the same thing as Mania, even in the side-scrolling sections. Sonic Generations was incredible and this is shaping up to be a sequel, clearly.
Getting both in one year is awesome.
Yeah as I said Apotos music was the same, it had a cheap synth used for the melody (not as cheap as here though lol) instead of a violin.
It is a speed running / high score aspect. The spring slows you down as opposed to avoiding it by jumping slightly beforehand. Avoid it and you can get a better time / higher score. Nothing wrong with it, really.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
Hmm. Was hoping they would at least get the gameplay right this time. I didn't like the way classic Sonic felt in Generations and this looks like it's about the same.
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no.
the music doesn't sound great though, and it just looks a bit... bland?
the physics look better than generations though
Really, gameplay and level design looks pretty much the same as Generations, don't see why all the fuss is about (unless you really hated Generations too).
And please... Emerald Hill is fucking Green Hill with a sea instead of a lake. I'm all for not adding Green Hill again... but Emerald Hill?really?
And please... Emerald Hill is fucking Green Hill with a sea instead of a lake. I'm all for not adding Green Hill again... but Emerald Hill?really?
I'm usually fine with Sonic games but this footage simply didn't do anything to me. It's tiring to see Green Hill Zone being remade over and over again. That music was plain horrible and Sonic games always deliver on that aspect, what happened!? Oh well. Still looking forward to this game and it's new zones and stuff. Good thing it will launch on Switch too.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
They're not and always have not.
Err, the only resemblance stems from the fact that they are both mimicking Sega Genesis sound with some embellishments.
...and I'd assume, like Generations, the game will use 16-bit+ arrangements for classic Sonic and more modern arrangements for modern Sonic.
The 3D games have simply adopted a different style of play. It's not trying to be truly "classic" Sonic anymore. That's what Mania is for.
Generations plays great as its own style of game.
Yeah, Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode 1 was the first thing to pop into my mind when I heard the music. Just a mess of faux-Genesis era sounds, tonally dissonant with the level.
Considering that this seemingly has been in development for longer than any Sonic game before it the shape it seems to be in is disappointing.
Considering that this seemingly has been in development for longer than any Sonic game before it the shape it seems to be in is disappointing.
Sonic is a fangame from Mario anyway, which is a fangame from that boardgame with snake and ladders.
Yes he clearly doesn't jump on multiple ennemis at the end. Let's just misinform now, at this point it's not like people give a care after all.
Yes he clearly doesn't jump on multiple ennemis at the end. Let's just misinform now, at this point it's not like people give a care after all.
Gotta admit I agree with you. It is off.
IronicSonic
Member
Oh god Sonic 4 music sounds SO BAD. Forces sounds better.
Also, the final bridge on this gameplay has more detail than the gameplay showed in the latest Direct.
LordKasual
Banned
I mean...it looks good?
The only issue i see is that for some asinine reason, the faster sonic goes, the closer the camera zooms in on him
The music is uh.....lets just say, it's not what I expected from Sonic Team's musicians.
- - Rolling seems to actually increase speed on slopes
- - Sonic's weight doesn't look like his shoes are made of painted gold
- - The lighting looks and feels great
The only issue i see is that for some asinine reason, the faster sonic goes, the closer the camera zooms in on him
The music is uh.....lets just say, it's not what I expected from Sonic Team's musicians.
It's a trap... something to slow you down... not a benefit.
Gameplay legitimately does but I wonder if that's the intent on mood. Forces seems rather dark and that music has shrill cheeriness to it that seems almost deliberate.
It definitely contrasts with the music we heard in Modern Sonic's stage.
Dragon1893
Member
Green Hill was already in generations. So many zones to choose from ffs...
I think it looks great (even if I am tired of them using Green hill again). Not too big on the music though. Part of me is hoping that its some sort of placeholder music but I doubt that's the case. Hopefully the rest of the soundtrack is much better. After the amazing soundtrack of Sonic Generations, I am expecting a lot out of the soundtrack.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
The last few sonic games including the spin offs have been utter crap to me. I dunno, my love for sonic has died ever since like heroes or adventure 2.
Gravy Boat
Member
I can't put my finger on it, but something about this just looks really dull and unenjoyable.
Hero of Legend
Member
Honestly I like the simpler look, the Gens version looked too busy to me. Also I appreciate that it's NOT the same song again and is actually an original one.
Was legit nice to see IMO. Hopefully the Switch version looks as close to the other versions as possible and is at 60fps.
Was legit nice to see IMO. Hopefully the Switch version looks as close to the other versions as possible and is at 60fps.
spindashing
Banned
I mean...uh, I guess it's okay....
Gunstar Ikari
Unconfirmed Member
Same reason as always, they have to tack on slower gameplay otherwise the game would be eaten alive for lasting 90 minutes.
To be honest, I'm kind of tired of 2D Sonic in general. I'm sure that I'll end up grabbing Mania, but if they canceled it tomorrow I wouldn't even blink.
I say "almost literally" because I'm more expressing the scale and obviousness of the mistakes this game makes with its movement than pointing out a specific problem, although the enemy-bouncing in this footage is comically shitty.
It's the everything.
Rodolfo Brito
Member
This is some "bootleg-SNES-Sonic-Ass" music. Gosh... Why bring the nostalgia up if it is missing such an important part?
A few things.
-Music sounds horrible, not because of the sound quality but it sounds NOTHING like Green Hill. I know SEGA has to pay to use Sonic 1/Sonic 2 music tracks, so it's a shame they were cheap enough not bother paying the licensing fee to play Green Hill. Even a 8-bit remix of Windy Hill or Seaside Hill would have been better. They paid for the fee to use the track in Sonic Mania (and likely other fees to use Sonic 2 zones too), so it screams 'We don't care' the track not having a proper remix in forces.
-Level design looks lazy and nothing like Classic from Generations. Sure, he felt 'off' in Gens but at least the level design still had the 'spirit' of the classic games. Here, it feels like it was thrown together. The strange spring and booster placement shows this quite clearly.
-Visuals look great for both Sonic and the level itself. I had a feeling the Nintendo Direct footage was the Switch build running and this gameplay video proves that; this seems to be running on PC's or PS4/Xbox One. So the level has a high resolution, great coloring and looks great. The fact it 'seemingly' runs at 60 makes it even better.
-Sonic himself and the stage/objects/etc look 'Classic' like, which is great honestly. Love the touch of Green Hill losing it's water and it being covered with sand. Hopeful they can expand the level (if there is an act two) to use the sand in a creative way to make the stage stand out.
-Music sounds horrible, not because of the sound quality but it sounds NOTHING like Green Hill. I know SEGA has to pay to use Sonic 1/Sonic 2 music tracks, so it's a shame they were cheap enough not bother paying the licensing fee to play Green Hill. Even a 8-bit remix of Windy Hill or Seaside Hill would have been better. They paid for the fee to use the track in Sonic Mania (and likely other fees to use Sonic 2 zones too), so it screams 'We don't care' the track not having a proper remix in forces.
-Level design looks lazy and nothing like Classic from Generations. Sure, he felt 'off' in Gens but at least the level design still had the 'spirit' of the classic games. Here, it feels like it was thrown together. The strange spring and booster placement shows this quite clearly.
-Visuals look great for both Sonic and the level itself. I had a feeling the Nintendo Direct footage was the Switch build running and this gameplay video proves that; this seems to be running on PC's or PS4/Xbox One. So the level has a high resolution, great coloring and looks great. The fact it 'seemingly' runs at 60 makes it even better.
-Sonic himself and the stage/objects/etc look 'Classic' like, which is great honestly. Love the touch of Green Hill losing it's water and it being covered with sand. Hopeful they can expand the level (if there is an act two) to use the sand in a creative way to make the stage stand out.
Papo Swing
Member
Man this looks whack.
I tried to pinpoint why comparing it to the original and I think my issue is that the background look too clean and makes the speed look bad. When I went and saw the original I saw that the background felt different and in the older game we also had more of the bottom part of the scenery in screen. I think the checkered pattern also affect our visual?
I don't know maybe I am just crazy, but the speed looks weird. It looks stiff.
I tried to pinpoint why comparing it to the original and I think my issue is that the background look too clean and makes the speed look bad. When I went and saw the original I saw that the background felt different and in the older game we also had more of the bottom part of the scenery in screen. I think the checkered pattern also affect our visual?
I don't know maybe I am just crazy, but the speed looks weird. It looks stiff.
Gai Murakumo
Member
Agreed. Green Hill Zone has been done too many times. At least do Emerald Hill or Angel Island to vary it up a bit.
Can they not just take that out of the game? :|
FleetingFlowAir
Member
Please stop throwing in Green Hill Zone. There are many other World 1 Zones out there.
I can agree here at least. I'm sick of Green Hill Zone.
Emerald Hill or Palmtree Panic would have been more interesting but still similar enough.