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[Lijik]

Ironic bit

SONIC TEAM is an anagram of the above, despite the fact I haven't came tons at their games for fifteen bllion years.

Fantastic :lol

 

[Sanic]

Well, here's hoping for the best. I already know that the game isn't what I would have wanted it to be, so I'll judge it on what it is. Let's see how this turns out.

 

[Teknoman]

Going with the PSN test for this one.

 

[BlazeHedgehog]

I'm going to get it.

I'm just wondering how long this game is going to be. Sonic games are usually over quickly.

Well, it's four zones. The game has been changed since all of the footage leaked out, sure, but it's not insane to assume you'll be able to clear the game in under two hours. Between those four zones is 13 levels, and at an average of four minutes each, that's roughly 52 minutes total.

For $15.

 

[To Far Away Times]

I really don't see the problem with this game. It will never....EVER live up to it's previous games, not matter what sega did. You know why? Because fans can't be pleased....ever.

This is what we want:

Obligatory videos of fansdo what segdont

Mushroom Hill in 2.5D

Superior fan attempt at a game in the Sonic 4 style, with vastly superior physics (if a bit busy on visuals).

Screenshot of a fan attempt at a HD 2D Sonic Game

This is what we got:

 

[Jocchan]

Alternate OP

Thank goodness you did not make the thread, that would be lame and depressing.

I agree, it would have fit the game perfectly.

 

[The Technomancer]

The Labrynth video restored my faith enough that I'll be buying the first episode at least. Now if its shit, then I won't get 2 and I'm out what, fifteen bucks? Big deal.

 

[buy teh haloz]

This is what we got:

At least it still has the Official Nintendo Seal of Quality.

 

[TL4E]

That anagram blew my mind.

 

[Knux-Future]

This is what we want:



This is what we got:

I'm sorry but those look like shit. This game doesn't look any better but still those don't look good either

 

[Jazzy Network]

The fuck? iPhone gets that shit first? Guh.

Probably get it on Xbox. Can't wait.

 

[Firestorm]

I really don't see the problem with this game. It will never....EVER live up to it's previous games, not matter what sega did. You know why? Because fans can't be pleased....ever.

Sega fucked up the 3d games and i know that ( the werewolve shit failed and Sonic 2006 makes Baby Jesus cry and then crucify himself.) But this is pretty much what I would expect from a Sonic game in 2010.

This is just going off of what I've seen but it seems like they gave you the slower, platform based gameplay. with the homing attack It looks dated to me but meh that's kinda what you all asked for.

Oh well, I will try it out but not expecting much.

No they did not. I would not be complaining if they did.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

I'm sorry but those look like shit. This game doesn't look any better but still those don't look good either

THIS looks shit? THIS? THIS is shit?

Say it again, please. Just so I can be certain.

 

[Knux-Future]

THIS looks shit? THIS? THIS is shit?

Say it again, please. Just so I can be certain.

To me yeah. maybe not shit but not great

 

[Jazzy Network]

To me yeah. maybe not shit but not great

thisisntcrysis.gif?

 

[Knux-Future]

No they did not. I would not be complaining if they did.

I'll admit that I haven't watched much but I still it doesn't seem to be Sonic Rush HD like some people have said.

Besides, i thought that people liked Sonic Rush?

 

[Sanic]

I'll admit that I haven't watched much but I still it doesn't seem to be Sonic Rush HD like some people have said.

Besides, i thought that people liked Sonic Rush?

Sonic Rush doesn't play like Sonic 1-3K. So it doesn't matter if people like it or not, that isn't the issue.

 

[Blueblur1]

I really don't see the problem with this game. It will never....EVER live up to it's previous games, not matter what sega did. You know why? Because fans can't be pleased....ever.

Sega fucked up the 3d games and i know that ( the werewolve shit failed and Sonic 2006 makes Baby Jesus cry and then crucify himself.) But this is pretty much what I would expect from a Sonic game in 2010.

This is just going off of what I've seen but it seems like they gave you the slower, platform based gameplay with the homing attack. It looks dated to me but meh that's kinda what you all asked for.

Oh well, I will try it out but not expecting much.

I don't even...

 

[Mama Robotnik]

To me yeah. maybe not shit but not great

You're wrong.

This is just going off of what I've seen but it seems like they gave you the slower, platform based gameplay with the homing attack. It looks dated to me but meh that's kinda what you all asked for.

You're wronger.

Seriously, where are you getting this from? Nobody asked for the homing attack as a requirement for Sonic 4, and the few people who like the mechanic generally approve of a harmless option to turn it on/off.

Combined with your admitance of stating broad opinions having watched barely any of the linked videos, I'd love to know exactly what facts you are basing these wild unsubstantiated opinions on.

 

[TL4E]

THIS looks shit? THIS? THIS is shit?

Say it again, please. Just so I can be certain.

I like how every Sonic fan remake video on youtube has a top rated comment telling Sega they should be ashamed of themselves because Sonic 4 pales in comparison. :lol

 

[jooey]

THIS looks shit? THIS? THIS is shit?

Say it again, please. Just so I can be certain.

You really want a Sonic game to look photorealistic? REALLY? REALLY you do?

 

[Knux-Future]

You're wrong.



You're wronger.

Seriously, where are you getting this from? Nobody asked for the homing attack as a requirement for Sonic 4, and the few people who like the mechanic generally approve of a harmless option to turn it on/off.

Combined with your admitance of stating broad opinions having watched barely any of the linked videos, I'd love to know exactly what facts you are basing these wild unsubstantiated opinions on.

Yeah you're right, I shouldn't be basing it off of what I admit is very little view of what this game looks like. I didn't realize that people hated the homing attack as mush as they do and as someone stated earlier that since this game is Sonic 4 then it shouldn't play like Sonic Rush. Ok so i'm caught up. I really haven't been keeping up with the Fanbase of Sonic so forgive me for my ignorance on that topic.

Still at least in my opinion, I don't think the video that you posted looks that fun. Just my opinion but thanking about it I have no clue how Sega could make a fun 2d Sonic game with 3d graphics that doesn't look off, then again HD sprites would help that either. Sega can't really recapture that magic.

Still I apologize for the baseless claims earlier.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

You really want a Sonic game to look photorealistic? REALLY? REALLY you do?

I'd prefer hand-drawn HD sprites that expertly build on the thematic wonder of the genesis games, with bold brilliant colour. Its nice to want things.

But even though its not the direction I'd prefer, I can see the merits of this exceptional video. The 2.5D style it shows is infinitely more impressive that Sonic 4's attempt.

 

[Jocchan]

Still at least in my opinion, I don't think the video that you posted looks that fun. Just my opinion but thanking about it I have no clue how Sega could make a fun 2d Sonic game with 3d graphics that doesn't look off, then again HD sprites would help that either. Sega can't really recapture that magic.

That video is a CG remake, so close to the original to have probably been based on a gameplay clip, of the first zone from Sonic 3 & Knuckles. So, independently on how it looks, it retains the exact same gameplay (even if faked, being a video) as what is considered by many the best Sonic game ever made.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

This is going to be one of the worst OTs ever. Thread's already filled with people who aren't buying the game but want to complain at length about it for what it is.

Ah well, should be a good test run for the DmC OT at least.

 

[N4Us]

Seeing those fan videos get posted at every mention of Sonic 4 is really annoying.

I honestly think if Sega actually made one of those as S4, even more people would still decry the game for just being a 3D remake and cashing in on the past.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

I'm guessing there won't be a demo before release?

And how does Super Sonic work if there are only 4 acts? You can become super on 4 emeralds?

 

[I AM JOHN!]

At least John can't complain about me not using his title.

I can and I will. >:|

 

[Neuromancer]

My interest is definately piqued. I never did play Sonic 3 or Sonic & Knuckles, did I miss out?

 

[RagnarokX]

My interest is definately piqued. I never did play Sonic 3 or Sonic & Knuckles, did I miss out?

Nah, you only missed the best Sonic game ever made.

 

[HK-47]

This is going to be one of the worst OTs ever. Thread's already filled with people who aren't buying the game but want to complain at length about it for what it is.

Ah well, should be a good test run for the DmC OT at least.

The thread had to end up worse than DmC, right?

 

[Jocchan]

My interest is definately piqued. I never did play Sonic 3 or Sonic & Knuckles, did I miss out?

I wrote this five posts about yours:

[...] it retains the exact same gameplay (even if faked, being a video) as what is considered by many the best Sonic game ever made.

 

[I AM JOHN!]

And how does Super Sonic work if there are only 4 acts? You can become super on 4 emeralds?

Three gameplay acts per zone = you can get Super Sonic by the first level of Casino Street if you don't suck.

 

[CurseoftheGods]

Superior fan attempt at a game in the Sonic 4 style, with vastly superior physics (if a bit busy on visuals).

omfg

 

[Dartastic]

omfg

I know, right? :/

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Three gameplay acts per zone = you can get Super Sonic by the first level of Casino Street if you don't suck.

Third act is a full level and not just a boss level? And I'm assuming Casino Street is the second level?

 

[I AM JOHN!]

Third act is a full level and not just a boss level? And I'm assuming Casino Street is the second level?

Yeah, bosses have their own act, Game Gear Sonic style.

Casino Street should be the third zone, but maybe it's Lost Labyrinth. I'm not sure anymore.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Yeah, bosses have their own act, Game Gear Sonic style.

Casino Street should be the third zone, but maybe it's Lost Labyrinth. I'm not sure anymore.

Cool, thanks.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Sonic the Hedgehog 4 |OT| Episode I of 206
Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode I |OT| "Episode I" is your tip that this will destroy your childhood

Third act is a full level and not just a boss level? And I'm assuming Casino Street is the second level?

I think Casino Street is the third level. At least, it's the third that Sega revealed.

And yes, three full acts and a separate boss act.

 

[Teknoman]

I'm guessing there won't be a demo before release?

And how does Super Sonic work if there are only 4 acts? You can become super on 4 emeralds?

Its probably going to be the usual trial the day of release. No demo for wiiware of course (would be nice though).

 

[jman2050]

omfg

Just got back from being out of town to see that video.

All it does is make me hate Sega more.

 

[shaowebb]

If adventure has a name, Sonic thinks he can do it better than whoever guy had the name.

if I looking for hedgehog
him name is runkin blue hedgehog

I lost my hedgehog
29-3228

Love, Wily105

P.S. I'll find my hedgehog
Who took my hedgehog
Who found my hedgehog
2010 Neogaf AVE S.

 

[TheOGB]

This is going to be one of the worst OTs ever. Thread's already filled with people who aren't buying the game but want to complain at length about it for what it is.

Ah well, should be a good test run for the DmC OT at least.

I look forward to it

Sonic the Hedgehog 4 |OT| Episode I of 206
Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode I |OT| "Episode I" is your tip that this will destroy your childhood

:lol

 

[Lijik]

My interest is definately piqued. I never did play Sonic 3 or Sonic & Knuckles, did I miss out?

Sonic 3 is the worst of the genesis games IMO, but Sonic & Knuckles is fucking incredible. Personally Sonic CD is my favorite Sonic game, but Sonic & Knuckles is the closest damn second there ever was.

 

[Htown]

Seriously, where are you getting this from? Nobody asked for the homing attack as a requirement for Sonic 4, and the few people who like the mechanic generally approve of a harmless option to turn it on/off.

Having an option to turn it off is stupid. Either put it in the game and make levels that make use of it, or leave it out. Having an optional homing attack makes absolutely no sense. It's like asking for Nintendo to put in a switch to turn off Mario's waggle spin move in Galaxy. Or asking old Sega to put in a switch so you can turn off the spin dash.

Say what you will about how lame Sonic 4 looks (and it does look kinda bad), but the optional homing attack is a pretty dumb idea.

Besides, the homing attack is not the problem with recent Sonic games. The problem with recent Sonic games is their lack of tight control, their buggy releases and their scattershot experimentation with terrible alternate gameplay styles that don't have anything to do with platforming. The fact that the best Sonic games were on the Genesis does NOT mean that every single thing has to be EXACTLY LIKE the Genesis games in order for the game to be good.

 

[Whipped Spartan]

Day one can't wait for next week.

 

[jman2050]

Besides, the homing attack is not the problem with recent Sonic games. The problem with recent Sonic games is their lack of tight control, their buggy releases and their scattershot experimentation with terrible alternate gameplay styles that don't have anything to do with platforming. The fact that the best Sonic games were on the Genesis does NOT mean that every single thing has to be EXACTLY LIKE the Genesis games in order for the game to be good.

It just has to be kinda sorta close, which this is definitely not.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

Those Mama Robotnik videos are the games we should have got between '99 and now.

 

[Lijik]

Day one can't wait for next week.

Man whatever, I'm picking it up for its lead platform this week for (hopefully) cheaper, sucka!

 

[The Technomancer]

It just has to be kinda sorta close, which this is definitely not.

At this point a "slower, slightly more platform intensive Sonic Rush" is good enough for me.