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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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VistraNorrez
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When Luke enters Leia's cell in ANH he says he's with Ben Kenobi. The weird thing is Leia doesn't question the Ben part, she just assumes it's Obi-Wan. I'm guessing Kenobi isn't very common.
Messypandas
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The saga is really a tale of stunning incompetence on the Empires part. They spend years and trillions on superweapons that only ever fire once. When will they fucking learn?
TangoAlphaLima
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No. Just no.
DarkHeartedKill
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So close. Four minutes off. Imagine if they posted like right underneath each other lol.
Yeah that would suck hard, the only movie that ever glitched out for me was one the Fast and Furious movies I think it was Fast Five? No idea. But they didn't fast forward, they reweinded and we were kay. Although they couldn't fix it so they just moved us to another room.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Kylo struck me as the rich kid who is trying to be gangsta. He waters the clothes, talks the talk, even has the moves. He didn't have the scars of Vader and even his mask was scarred and worn with his voice modulated but his actual self was normal. His journey this film made him from a Vader poser to who his own thing.
JimmyRustler
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The name suggestion could have come from Luke for all we know. I didn't find it stupid at all.
Could be, could be Tython, could be something new. There was a galactic map published recently that interestingly had Rakata Prime listed on it, as well as the other TFA planets (Hosnian Prime, Starkiller Base, Jakku, Takodana, D'Qar), and Rakata Prime has shown up in nothing else in the new canon sooo....
kaiju
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Inb4 she's a clone.
Ether_Snake
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Lifejumper
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Han started believing in the force. He told Ben that it was mumbo jumbo in episode 4. Its a tribute I think. Nice callback.
Only time something like this has happened to me was with TDKR. They mistakenly started playing the Spanish dub version. People were hollering, whistling and saying all kinds of dumb shit in exaggerated spaniard accents. They fixed it rather quickly though.
To be fair, Been could be just a nickname and Obi Wan Solo as a formal name.
Sooooo... Gary Stus get shit all the time, except for all the times that they don't get shit but that's okay because reasons.
Pictured above: Awesome badasses, perfect in every way. Just like we (the male dominated audience) want them to be. Number of criticisms of them dismissing them as being shallow author-inserts: zero
Pictured above: The new lead in a Star Wars movie that female fans can identify with that doesn't involve the use of golden bikinis. Able to learn on the fly in desperate situations and manages to overcome a male villain who is severely injured, temperamental and emotionally devastated.
What a fucking Mary Sue.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
God no. The "he must be related to the other black dude" would be disastrous.
On his force sensitivity there are hints that could go either way. He literally had an awakening in the opening scene and the same force sound was playing during his conflict. Others later on too but it is open ended.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Pet theory that will likely be debunked by blu-ray behind the scenes shit but:
When Kylo goes for the Hail Mary with his bullshit "You need a TEACHER!" attempt to talk his way out of the asswhuppin he's receiving?
And Rey closes her eyes at the edge of the cliff during the saber clash?
You're probably supposed to be hearing Maz Kanata's words from earlier in the movie (that got cut from earlier in the movie, unfortunately, and only ended up in the trailer) echoing in her head, saying "The Force is calling to you. Just let it in."
And then she lets it in.
And if that's not how it was supposed to go then I have a suggested change for the Special Edition idea that Star Wars fans have suddenly come back around on.
edit: OH, and also, my last episode as a regular on Full of Sith is up now.
When Kylo goes for the Hail Mary with his bullshit "You need a TEACHER!" attempt to talk his way out of the asswhuppin he's receiving?
And Rey closes her eyes at the edge of the cliff during the saber clash?
You're probably supposed to be hearing Maz Kanata's words from earlier in the movie (that got cut from earlier in the movie, unfortunately, and only ended up in the trailer) echoing in her head, saying "The Force is calling to you. Just let it in."
And then she lets it in.
And if that's not how it was supposed to go then I have a suggested change for the Special Edition idea that Star Wars fans have suddenly come back around on.
edit: OH, and also, my last episode as a regular on Full of Sith is up now.
TangoAlphaLima
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At least they took out like 5 planets with this single shot. Progress!
I'm sure that Bail would have informed her that Obi-Wan is using "Ben" as an alias. Could have even come up when mentioning the Clone Wars since he used it before.
DragonSworne
Banned
Who was the old guy in the beginning and why did he have a piece of the map? Do we know anything about him?
Ether_Snake
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Yeah loved all the scenes with him, shows what people who know what they're doing can do compared to Lucas.
That sounds good! but i was hoping that he leaves on a self -discovery journey before finding out he may have the force
brandonh83
Banned
It's a bit on the nose.
uncelestial
Member
Lando wishes. He was trying to convince Han and Chewie to run the train on Leia as soon as they landed in Cloud City.
That really makes sense, having her just focus and use the force is fine, but hearing Lupita's line would've been even better
Messypandas
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Maybe put the planet shields on two laptops or something next time ok fellas? Or at least have some guards at the door or something.
Yeah the entire ending was bullshit because of this. The X-wings didn't matter one bit. The sense of urgency wasn't there. The whole Death Star 3.0 idea was useless.
can you stop this nonsense. finn is ventress and windu's spawn
Bobby Roberts
Banned
So is the whole movie, though.
I'm guessing also as the movies goes on that all the remaining old cast will eventually pass the torch to their newer coutnterpart. We already have Han's death who kinda gives the reins to Rey (and maybe later Poe). Luke will probably also pass on unto Rey or Finn, or even Ren too at some point. Leia will also maybe just bestow her responsibility to Finn or Poe. Ren is the wild card as he can go anywhere from this point still
Is Indy really one, though? Granted I should rewatch the films, but he's kinda incompetent at times. Like, doesn't Indiana Jones kinda fuck up by letting the Nazis get both The Ark and losing the Cup of the Carpenter? And the Soviets' Crystal Skull? Plus, he's a total pussy when it comes to snakes.
VistraNorrez
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I kind of took the scene as Rey going into Kylo's mind and messing with him plus downloading some saber technique. I could be wrong but I think her technique changes up a bit after that moment.
The One and Done
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brandonh83
Banned
But is that necessary? I understood what was going on fine, it's visual storytelling without unnecessary audience feeding for once.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Hadn't heard that one before. I kinda like it.
Well the whole movie is a retread of New Hope, but better
brandonh83
Banned
Has nothing to do with the topic, specifically.
'I loved it...It was everything I hoped it would be.' Love how he said that.
Too much of a callback to Obi-Wan's "Use the force, Luke" except Maz carries no meaning of any sort to Rey. Maz isn't even a Jedi. She's really just Exposition Character. Now that's one thing I bet never gets explained or brought up ever again, how she knows so much about everything.
And I think she said that line to her at the Not Cantina anyway, didn't she? Or maybe I imagined it. I'll say this much though, I was expecting the exact same thing to happen in that scene, considering the rest of the movie, haha.
WadiumArcadium
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I liked that Maz line. Would be interesting to compare that scene with Rey hearing it.
Feel free to swap him out for Ethan Hunt, Jason Bourne or any number of other male leads in Hollywood movies that are impossibly capable but never deal with the title of Gary Sue.
Nope. The Clone Wars is between II & III, while Rebels is between III & IV.
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