SinCityAssassin
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No offense but if you're seriously going to use ARK as an example for this I'm not inclined to consider anything you're saying.
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Square Enix trying to port full version of FF15 to Switch, maybe via UE4
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GamePlay Johnny
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Props to Square. I'm already expecting DQ, DQ Builders 2 and Octopath and I have my eye on Lost Sphear too. They are definitely putting good content on the platform so far. I'm a bit skeptical about them remaking FXV on a different engine just to get it on Switch, but at this point I would be surprised if they don't work on Switch versions for all their big releases going forward.
Gotdatmoney
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I'm not saying I want it, I'm just saying they are doing a lot of talking about something that is supposedly going to happen. When is this port going to release? 3 years from now?
It's gonna be a dope PS5 launch title.
Yeah, so comparing two games that aren't similar at all would be more valid... KH2.8 also exhibits the frame pacing issues XV has on regular PS4.
SinCityAssassin
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ARK runs poorly on ANY platform it's on because it's still technically an early access game available at retail. That's why I'm inclined not to see it as a legitimate comparison.
Gotdatmoney
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Remember when it looked like it would be a PS3 title? Good times
The final version just released a month ago. The performance issues were barely improved from a year ago.
Yeah, I don't see SE releasing "episode 1" on PS4 and then the rest on PS5.
KZXcellent
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When was that? At best I saw people get over-excited at a tech demo.
I think there's a big difference between a tech demo to show off the PS3 and a full game(s) that's been announced.
Gotdatmoney
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The tech demo they showed inspired false hope. Which for reference SE is dumb for showing a tech demo for fucking FF7 then being like "oh, its not happening though lol"
The problem is also in the messaging.
Bamco: We have exciting projects on the pipeline! Including some of our best franchises! Also, be sure to buy our current gen DBZ and Pirate games releasing this year and our exclusive fighter remaster for the system!
Bamco:Yes, we will also look into bringing that hot new fighting game and the next big anime game to the system, but we can't promise anything yet!
vs
Capcom: Well, we have this XBLA port for $40. Oh, those easy to port ROM collections? They are for everything but this system and that's the end of it. We will evaluate future support based on the sales of our only, overpriced announced game.
After the Switch didn't flop and they announced their next big games:
Capcom: First, that 3DS port of our biggest franchise that we clearly started after the system didn't flop isn't leaving Japan. Stop asking. But that $40 XBLA sold against our expectations! We are now really looking into developing something for the system. BTW, our latest, new super hot project is releasing for every other system and no, we have no plans for a switch version.
Is very obvious why Capcom is seen as offering worse support.- Proceeds to stealth announce late ports of last gen games to switch via twitter with virtually no info.
- Proceeds to announce port of remaster of beloved Zelda clone, with new grand trailer and new features like 4K support, for everything but the system that sold the best a super late port of Ocean Horn for $15.
pretty done
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Why? They've supported every Nintendo system barring the N64, Wii U and Gamecube.
Basically if Nintendo makes a shit flop console, SE ain't wasting their time and money.
Won't matter.
All PS4 titles will be compatible with PS5 out of the box, so in the same way PS4 games can detect when they're running on a PS4 Pro and enable 4k/supersampling/enhanced effects/whatever, they'll be a "PS5" mode that's a further bump in quality.
ArkhamFantasy
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Tabata and BD2 have been pretty good at solving problems, for example
People were complaining that mainline Final Fantasy games have always been turn based, so XV should be turn based. Obviously they arent going to scrap their battle system but they came up with wait mode to try and appease that portion of the fanbase.
People also wanted an air ship, so Tabata said he would work with fellow Square Enix developers like Avalanche to try and figure something out, this turned into nothing but they eventually came up with the flying regalia.
I think at this point Tabata, BD2, and Square Enix have recognized that their is a demand for this game on Switch, and are now going through the brain storming phase to figure out how to get this to work. But i think you guys should keep in mind that just because the team is trying to do something (like using streaming tech from Avalanche) doesnt mean its going to happen.
People were complaining that mainline Final Fantasy games have always been turn based, so XV should be turn based. Obviously they arent going to scrap their battle system but they came up with wait mode to try and appease that portion of the fanbase.
People also wanted an air ship, so Tabata said he would work with fellow Square Enix developers like Avalanche to try and figure something out, this turned into nothing but they eventually came up with the flying regalia.
I think at this point Tabata, BD2, and Square Enix have recognized that their is a demand for this game on Switch, and are now going through the brain storming phase to figure out how to get this to work. But i think you guys should keep in mind that just because the team is trying to do something (like using streaming tech from Avalanche) doesnt mean its going to happen.
Damnit don't even joke about this! /knocks on wood
Wii sold 100m and SE wasn't even willing to port their PS2 RPGs to the system let alone anything new worthwhile outside of Chocobo Mystery Dungeon.... lol.
I get that DS/PSP were ruling the market and that where many of the ressources went in addition to HD console... But the Wii was extremely successful and SE more or less ignored it.
ArkhamFantasy
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SE is really slow with ports for some reason, they should have an entire business division dedicated to porting their classics to new consoles that they deem viable.
Gamecube got FFCC and Wii U got DQX.
Yup... Even a console as successful as the PS4 has to wait to get some no brainer ports like FF8 and FF9 lol. It's weird...
That's nothing. EA had more games out on WiiU during its launch month.
I dunno if it's fair to say they ignored it. They supported WiiWare with exclusive software and VC. They also released like 3 Crystal Chronicles games on it, a DQ collection and launched a DQ MMO on it. Obviously they could've done way more but I wouldn't be surprised if the RPG-playing audience was mainly on DS/PSP during those years.
Astral Dog
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Yeah you said KH3 and FFVII wouldn't be toned down because Unreal 4
Jaded Alyx
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The difference is, Capcom has some very OBVIOUS titles that people expect they would also put on Switch, namely Disney Afternoon Collection, Mega Man Legacy Collection, and Okami HD. Capcom was also a big supporter of the 3DS. It's not surprising that people thought that support would continue.
Godzilla's Left Toe
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Do you know the definition of hypothetical?
You mean the super late ports for full price, like ME3, while PS3 and 360 got the trilogy for the same price.
FFCC was an exclusively made game for the Gamecube and looked amazing. DQX did way more for the Wii U than all the super late EA ports combined.
TDLink
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Capcom has given no indication that they intend to continue the mainline series in any way on the Switch.
A hypothesis has to still be based on something.
Now compare that to what NES, SNES, PSone, GBA, PS2 or any other system that sold on that level recieved for support. Wii got nothing in comparison... They couldn't even bother with releasing PSP titles like Kingdom Hearts BbS or or Type O on it. The fact that you have to list Wii Ware titles and DQ Rom dumps says it all.
Yes.
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DQX did nothing for the WiiU.
They are porting it to PC, probably using UE4. That will make it a lot easier to port that version to switch.
ArkhamFantasy
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The PC port is using luminous pro, the engine they've confirmed their next PS5/XB2 game will use.
Polygonal_Sprite
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Publishers want to sell more copies of a game on more devices. Shock horror!
Capcom support will come. Just because they haven't announced anything new yet doesn't mean nothing is in development. 2017 is crammed already on Switch anyway.
Considering they were instrumental in convincing Nintendo to up the memory of the Switch I very much doubt they have no plans to support it with significant software especially after as you said their strong 3DS support which takes far, far more effort considering the extreme hardware and middleware limitations.
MatrixMan.EXE
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Huh? The PC version is using Luminous, not to mention it was the base platform the game was built on before being ported to PS4/XB1.
ryanofcall
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FFXV on a portable console? I would totally go for it! I hope they can get it done properly!
theofficefan99
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Why bother? Literally almost everyone who owns a Switch has played BOTW and that game embarrasses FFXV.
Megatron
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Oh damn. I would day one the hell out of that!
BotW is the best game I have ever played. So because another game isn't as good, I shouldn't play it? Might as well just give up gaming I guess...
BotW is the best game I have ever played. So because another game isn't as good, I shouldn't play it? Might as well just give up gaming I guess...
theofficefan99
Junior Member
Fair enough. But I've seen a lot of people who've played a lot of open world games frequently saying XV is either one of the worst or the worst open world game they've played.
pretty done
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lol
If this is your argument then why did any of them bother buying ARMS and Splatoon 2? BotW embarrasses the fuck out of both of them as well.
Skittzo0413
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Yeah you said KH3 and FFVII wouldn't be toned down because Unreal 4
I meant the PS4 versions of those games wouldn't be toned down if they also prepared a Switch version which would be greatly toned down.
Basically the poster I responded to was worrying that adding a lower spec target like the Switch will lower the quality of the high spec targets for that game.
I've seen a lot of people who've played a lot of open world games frequently saying XV is really good, too! How is this possible!?
FFXVI is already being worked on by a different team. FFXV people are working on a new IP. Exploring whether they can port this game to switch or making new content for FFXV would have no bearing on that.
titiklabingapat
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The good thing about all the third party support being announced now for the Switch is it also lets Nintendo knows that making it a little easier for third parties to support your console will mean more support from them. They won't be pushing the bleeding edge but it will at least encourage them to try to stay within 2-4 times parity and support for popular engines.
SuperBlank
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I just hope given they're still in development SE plans in advance for possible FF7R/KH3 ports so there's no need to go back and do any major overhauling afterwards.
Assuming SE endeavours to bring at least one of those to the Switch. Which they very well might not.
Assuming SE endeavours to bring at least one of those to the Switch. Which they very well might not.
maybe i'm remembering it worse than it was
i remember the combat feeling super janky
SE put their egg in DQX, which came out in 2012 lol
These honestly makes no sense. Even if the Switch wasn't a big success, Capcom literally lose nothing porting these games and they will sell well for fans hungry for quality games since the Switch's library is small, looking at Street Fighter II on the Switch. It's leaving money on the table.
Jaded Alyx
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Exactly. That's why people criticize Capcom when it comes to Switch support.