OneEightZero
aka ThreeOneFour
I am excited we have a new ST series.
Bring it. ^_^
But who wants to bet it'll only last a season because it's an CBS paywall exclusive?
Are these ones who avoided the Augment Virus or had reconstructive surgery or something?
But who wants to bet it'll only last a season because it's an CBS paywall exclusive?
Depending on how things go it may be necessary to declare the show an alternate universe. At least Enterprise made an effort to connect the two eras, Discovery does not appear to be even trying.
Multi episode arcs about why Klingons didn't have bumpy heads in TOS was part of why Enterprise failed.Depending on how things go it may be necessary to declare the show an alternate universe. At least Enterprise made an effort to connect the two eras, Discovery does not appear to be even trying.
At this point they should just claim it is so the canonphobia types can calm down.Literally everything about this show's aesthetic is Kelvinverse.
even its marketing.
I am excited we have a new ST series.
Bring it. ^_^
At this point they should just claim it is so the canonphobia types can calm down.
I am excited we have a new ST series.
Bring it. ^_^
Maybe the only thing dumber than always putting the bridge within easy firing range on top of the saucer is making a small inner saucer that's only attached to the outer ring by a number of small struts. I mean, wtf is up with these design decisions?
Something tells me that it's basically intended to be that, they just don't have the rights to the films, so they're working with what they've got. Like wink-nod "it's the Prime Universe - but it's not really the Prime universe. You get me, right? Eh? Ehhhh???"
You have got a roomful of people with very different and very devoted relationships to Star Trek in that writers' room. And that carries on a pretty proud tradition of Trek being written by fans.
You have to respect canon as it's being written. You cannot say, ”That never happened." No, no no, you can't do that, they would kill you. Star Trek fans would kill you. No, you have to respect canon. You have to understand the timelines and what the different timelines were and what the different universes were and how they all worked together. You have to keep very meticulous track of who, what, where, when and why. And we have people in the writer's room whose sole job is to say, ”Nope, can't do that!"
Maybe the only thing dumber than always putting the bridge within easy firing range on top of the saucer is making a small inner saucer that's only attached to the outer ring by a number of small struts. I mean, wtf is up with these design decisions?
Nice poster but good god that ship is fug.
I am excited we have a new ST series.
Bring it. ^_^
I am excited we have a new ST series.
Bring it. ^_^
But literally Kurtzman says this.
I'm a huge Trekkie and I'm not subscribing.It will get at least two. Well one might be shortened.
Though I'm hoping for the best. But I kind of agree, I don't know anybody that plans on subscribing that isn't already big trekkies.
This fan base!
All of the worst aspects of Enterprise were trying to do exactly what you were hoping they'd do. Stuff like the Augment Virus was dumb dumb dumb. Who cares?
Multi episode arcs about why Klingons didn't have bumpy heads in TOS was part of why Enterprise failed.
Kurtzman is full of shit, though.
Like, it's not a big deal, and it's not going to stop me from watching the show (the paywall's gonna do that), or even judging it negatively (the story/performances are going to be what's important there) but CBS is making a Kelvinverse show without having the rights to the Kelvinverse. That's all.
It's fine. Shit's all fictional regardless, it's not like a real history is being violated here.
I'm a huge Trekkie and I'm not subscribing.
It was one of the best things, in concept not execution. It explained away a glaring inconsistency in the canon, which is great. If they totally gloss over why these Klingons have ridges it'll be a huge disservice. Canon is extremely important in Star Trek.
I really hope that these Klingon are the cousin race Fek'Ihri. The Neanderthal to the Human. It would be so damn interesting and help fill in a real historical account of what happened with Kahless.
Depending on how things go it may be necessary to declare the show an alternate universe. At least Enterprise made an effort to connect the two eras, Discovery does not appear to be even trying.
Kurtzman is full of shit, though.
Like, it's not a big deal, and it's not going to stop me from watching the show (the paywall's gonna do that), or even judging it negatively (the story/performances are going to be what's important there) but CBS is making a Kelvinverse show without having the rights to the Kelvinverse. That's all.
It's fine. Shit's all fictional regardless, it's not like a real history is being violated here.
I am excited we have a new ST series.
Bring it. ^_^
Literally everything about this show's aesthetic is Kelvinverse.
even its marketing.
Lets be honest here: you're the one who's full of shit.
I love Star Trek and I don't mind aesthetical changes. I always thought there was no reason to explain the change in Klingon appearance from the 60s or why the ENT tech looked shinier than the TOS one. We're fans, not morons.
TOS was Roddenberry still figuring things out. Inconsistencies in TOS aren't an excuse for inconsistencies in Trek today. We've had 25 seasons of television since TOS that have strived to adhere to canon or at least attempt to give in-universe explanations for inconsistencies.Considering all the inconsistences I'm surprised at the backlash of the Klingons, I mean in TOS/TAS the Enterprise was leaving the Galaxy on a weekly basis.
The new ship design looks great imo. Look there are only so many ways you can make Star Trek design look unique while also retaining tradition, and I think they have found a balance here.
TOS was Roddenberry still figuring things out. Inconsistencies in TOS aren't an excuse for inconsistencies in Trek today. We've had 25 seasons of television since TOS that have strived to adhere to canon or at least attempt to give in-universe explanations for inconsistencies.
I think they totally screwed up on it.
It's to avoid damaging subspace like was examined in the one TNG episode. Voyager was an intermediate design, later ships fixed the issue without needing to angle the nacelles like that.Voyager has grown on me since I've been watching so much of it...but the nacelles folding up/down for Warp is still stupid
It's to avoid damaging subspace like was examined in the one TNG episode. Voyager was an intermediate design, later ships fixed the issue without needing to angle the nacelles like that.
Also, TAS as a whole isn't canon. Roddenberry personally excised it. Writers have had the freedom to reference specific events in TAS to bring them into canon, but the show as a whole isn't canon.
It's no Miranda class, but it's not rough to look at either.
Like I said, inconsistencies in TOS are one thing. It was the first show. Everything since TNG has tried to remaining consistent.Yeah I know the reason, still looks stupid and my point still stands, the Enterprise in TOS left the galaxy a couple of times too, you don't even need TAS to bring up glaring inconsistences between shows
Like I said, inconsistencies in TOS are one thing. It was the first show.
Reliant is my favorite all time ship design.
It's to avoid damaging subspace like was examined in the one TNG episode. Voyager was an intermediate design, later ships fixed the issue without needing to angle the nacelles like that.
Yea...what sort of answer is that. Not only have they followed a pretty similar visual since TMP, they made a canonical reason as to why they looked different after Enterprise and through TOS up to TMP.
Not that it matters because I'll still watch it, but I'm not a fan of that sort of hand waving excuse, I understand it's hard to keep consistent due to the age of TOS, but it makes me wonder what else they will have decided to ignore of Star Treks 50 year history just because.
All of it. Seems they just wanna use Trek name and loose references that they get wrong for a spaceship show. Kinda like the new movies.
That's just a Comic Con poster. Not the official key art that they're going with. I believe this is the real key art.