Anyone who's been on SteamGifts can tell people won't understand these things. The number of people who create giveaways on that thinking it automatically gives the game away free to people (without anyone having to actually buy it) is amusing.those russians really don't get that greenlight is not a request feature
If you don't mind me asking, is this the first Fly'n Submission to steam? Were you guys waiting for Greenlight before trying to submit?
I'd waste so much less time looking through these if I could block all Russian language submissions.
Hey guys! I saw some of you listed our games in the games the voted for. Thanks a lot!
But we are kind of lost in the flow of all the new games and already late compared to the the most liked games. So if you allow me here is the link of our Greenlight page. Thanks for visiting .
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=92925091&searchtext=
I'm wondering about two things:
1. Are people interested in a NeoGAF collection with all the games made by members? If EviLore/one of the mods is ok with it, I'd certainly make one.
2. Does this deserve a monthly round-up thread with suggestions etc.? Can't probably answer this yet since we don't know how successful this will be.
I don't see what's so bad about it. Does it belong on Steam? Upvoted. Does it not belong on Steam? Downvoted. Is it somewhere in the middle or too early to tell? Nothing. Makes sense to me, not trying to crush anyone's dreams here or anything.The youtube system needs to change it only benefit trolls.
Also as someone said, change the down vote button to "dont show me this game again". There are game that I dont want to see, but If they really have a following I dont want to fuck with their upvotes.
The down vote button is just terrible, worst thing in all greenlight.
Pass, 50% on metacritic and the reviews say the melee combat is dull.
Extended Edition includes:
more scary scenes, sounds and situations
improved face expressions
new gameplay elements (lvl 4)
new savepoints and chapters
new light and special effects
improved storytelling
new game introduction
all new cutscenes (camera, sound, animations, face FX)
improved sound of characters and environment
improved character animations
optimization –lightning and performance for Xbox360
new tutorial system
newly balanced gameplay
small technical improvements
new combat system
I don't see what's so bad about it. Does it belong on Steam? Upvoted. Does it not belong on Steam? Downvoted. Is it somewhere in the middle or too early to tell? Nothing. Makes sense to me, not trying to crush anyone's dreams here or anything.
steam said:How many votes does a game need to get selected?
It's going to change during the first few days/weeks since we don't know what kind of traffic to expect. Part of the drive for this system is the need for customers to help us prioritize which games they want to see made available on Steam. So the specific number of votes doesn't matter as much as relative interest in a game compared with other games in Steam Greenlight.
We're going to be reaching out to developers as we see their games getting traction regardless of whether they have achieved a specific number of votes or are sitting 1st or 2nd place at any given time. We are most interested in finding the games that people want, not requiring them to always hit a specific number of votes.
I don't see what's so bad about it. Does it belong on Steam? Upvoted. Does it not belong on Steam? Downvoted. Is it somewhere in the middle or too early to tell? Nothing. Makes sense to me, not trying to crush anyone's dreams here or anything.
I don't see what's so bad about it. Does it belong on Steam? Upvoted. Does it not belong on Steam? Downvoted. Is it somewhere in the middle or too early to tell? Nothing. Makes sense to me, not trying to crush anyone's dreams here or anything.
Agreed, that along with the constant shuffling of games as you browse makes Greenlight pretty frustrating to wade through in it's current state. A 'Hide' option that doesn't affect rating should be there as well. I personally wouldn't use that feature instead of downvoting if a 'no thanks' response is appropriate, though.if you don't want to see the game again you can't choose the nothing though... that's the issue the other person was talking about. There were a number of games that I wasn't interested in that I ended up down voting even though I didn't think they were so terrible that they shouldn't be on steam just because I didn't feel they deserved an up vote quite yet and I didn't want to see them again while I was browsing.
Steam is not a place for every game on the internet to show up so long as it's not a scam, it's a cultivated storefront with standards. I'll continue using Greenlight to highlight the titles I feel belong in that environment and providing constructive criticism for the ones that don't in their current state. If it's something I'm completely uninterested in (say, Slender Man games) I just ignore those, and hope the folks that do care act accordingly as a whole.So you mean its horrible and probably not really a game. Flag it. If im not interested in a game, but its a real game and some people may apreciate it, im not going to down vote it to fuck with them, but im not going to upvote it becuase its also not my type.
Ive seen already a handfull of trolls using the downbutton because the game is not their thing, or hate the type of game, but the game being totally professional and looking really amazing.
The youtube system needs to change it only benefit trolls.
Also as someone said, change the down vote button to "dont show me this game again". There are game that I dont want to see, but If they really have a following I dont want to fuck with their upvotes.
The down vote button is just terrible, worst thing in all greenlight.
I wouldn't be surprised if in general the down vote button was considered skip button by steam and they only pay attention to the up votes.
I mean logic dictates that if a game gets 50k up votes it will likely sell decently, and that would remain true even if that same game had 200k down votes. There is pretty much no way that you will lose customers just because you allow a game some people aren't interested in to be put on steam, meanwhile you would lose potential sales if a game was catching the interest of people, but others just weren't interested so you didn't publish it.
Now steam does need to avoid flooding their store with to much stuff, but that can easily be done by limiting how many games you can put up from greenlight in a week. I mean you could easily put up one a day and not have any issues with properly promoting them.
It will be fun to see how greenlight grows and evolves though.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's like an elevator close door button that doesn't work. It just makes you feel good to press it, but does nothing, other than the game disappears from your list.
I'm very happy for you if you have ever found a game with a 50 or below metacritic score fun.I'm glad I don't dictate my purchases with metacritic and keep an open mind.
I'm very happy for you if you have ever found a game with a 50 or below metacritic score fun.
Valve could put the money into a pool, and have the highest rated indie that month get it. Or something. Fee should be low though.People are suggesting a small fee ($10 - $100) to submit a game to Greenlight in order to deter the most obvious trolls. Not sure what I think about that.
if you don't want to see the game again you can't choose the nothing though... that's the issue the other person was talking about. There were a number of games that I wasn't interested in that I ended up down voting even though I didn't think they were so terrible that they shouldn't be on steam just because I didn't feel they deserved an up vote quite yet and I didn't want to see them again while I was browsing.
People are suggesting a small fee ($10 - $100) to submit a game to Greenlight in order to deter the most obvious trolls. Not sure what I think about that.
Seriously. I don't know if the issue is that Russian are somehow more dense on average than the typical Steam audience, or if there isn't a Russian language version of the Green Light page.On another note, I'm starting to think Russians shouldn't be able to submit games unless verified developers by Valve, lots of spam from them I, and I'm sure others have reported.
I tentatively think this might be a good idea. But with the additional stipulations that if the game is accepted or the author voluntarily pulls the game, then the submission fee is refunded. If the game is removed due to violating any of the terms, the fee is forfeit.People are suggesting a small fee ($10 - $100) to submit a game to Greenlight in order to deter the most obvious trolls. Not sure what I think about that.
Wait, what are the Russians doing? lol
I like this, except that it should be forfeit when the game is pulled by the author as well.I tentatively think this might be a good idea. But with the additional stipulations that if the game is accepted or the author voluntarily pulls the game, then the submission fee is refunded. If the game is removed due to violating any of the terms, the fee is forfeit.
Seriously. I don't know if the issue is that Russian are somehow more dense on average than the typical Steam audience, or if there isn't a Russian language version of the Green Light page.
As it is, I wish I had a script that would auto-downvote on:
- Russian language found in the description
- wall of text with no newlines in the description
- no trailer
- mention of "iOS" anywhere in the description
- submitting party has a brony avatar
- submitting party is using a free, non-Premium Steam account
- submitting party has profile disabled
So..many..games..to rate..
I hope thats what really is, and that Valve explains it at the front page if thats the case as soon as they can. If thats the case, it will be good for troll attempts, but right now its frustating people like me that dont really want to fuck with games im not interested but are not bad.
Yeah, redirects to the FAQ right now.Greenlight went down for me! NOOOOO!
This system needs some refinement.
I think the system crashed.
We could make a NeoGAF list on greenlight.
I guess it's more of a personal bias than a "universal truth" regarding quality. I've seen some very polished looking iOS port submissions. It's just the overall artstyle (oversized player avatars and HUD elements), along with the controls and simplistic gameplay that tend to predominate in games designed first and foremost for the iOS platform that I'm not fond of.Hey, that's not really fair. There might quite a few iOS ports that doesn't really belong on PC, but there are plenty that do, and for any indie dev that has failed getting onto steam, releasing the game on iOS or Android is pretty much the only way to get some money, and most the review quotes will likely be from the iOS version.