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[giant_frying_pan]

Giving him out of context clips doesn't work. He has to watch the entire film.

And you should, Dennis.

...


Well, I know what I'm watching tonight.

 

[cr_blah_blah]

Respect a conning scumbag, talk shit about people donating to presumably disabled man. What a stupid fucking opinion.

 

[Daingurse]

Well... read some poetry, read some books, watch a great movie, pick up some of the philosophers who talk heavily about nihilism. Talk about it among friends.

One of the greatest challenges in life is overcoming nihilism and understand social humanity.

You need not despise this con-artist... but at least come to appreciate the empathy for others.

Yeah Major Depression makes stuff like that very unrelatable. I try not to use my illness as a crutch but I'm sorry I feel zero empathy for anyone effected by this dude. The people who donated had their hearts in the right place but really there's much better things you can do with your money if you want to actually help people.

I don't think what this person did was good, but I can respect his hustle.

 

[Osiris]

I think your over analyzing things just a biiiit. But I would call myself a nihilist at times.

Nihilist?, more like a fuckwad deserving of nothing but scorn and peoples hate.

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

That is some Downton Abbey shit going on.

 

[TommyT]

I don't get this.

 

[DJMicLuv]

Yeah Major Depression makes stuff like that very unrelatable. I try not to use my illness as a crutch but...

Maybe it's not the Major Depression that's the problem.

 

[Daingurse]

Nihilist?, more like a fuckwad deserving of nothing but scorn and peoples hate.

Haha whatever man. Pile it on folks, whatever makes you feel better about yourselves. Nothing changes my opinions on the subject.

Spoiler

I'm outta of this thread, gonna debate which Pokemon are best. A much more constructive use of my time

 

[8sanders]

I'm fat and my feet hurt. Please gimme money GAF. Pics for proof of my fatness can be provided if need be. Any amount would help.

God bless

 

[MaximumFlipFlop]

Respect a conning scumbag, talk shit about people donating to presumably disabled man. What a stupid fucking opinion.

.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

Fucking scumbag.

 

[Sorral]

Disgusting. But I am not surprised after having see what people do first hand.

To Daingurse above, while I don't wish it upon you, I am sure your view and 'respect' will change once something big of the same kind happens to you.

 

[CrunchyFrog]

I would love to see the "dog in a fish shop" bit become a meme. Classic. The fucking nerve of some people.

 

[10101]

Haha whatever man. Pile it on folks, whatever makes you feel better about yourselves. Nothing changes my opinions on the subject.

Spoiler

I'm outta of this thread, gonna debate which Pokemon are best. A much more constructive use of my time

I don't think it was about making themselves feel better, you really did bring that on yourself.

You can't expect to come into a thread about a scammer have the views you have and not expect some sort of backlash. Sometimes it's best to say nothing...

 

[DJMicLuv]

I'm fat and my feet hurt. Please gimme money GAF. Pics for proof of my fatness can be provided if need be. Any amount would help.

God bless

I read on TMZ that you had no feet.
Are you trying to con GAF?

 

[not_so_special]

Eh, still not as bad as the guy who accidentally left his stream on while having sex with his girlfriend. Or the dude who left his stream on while masturbating.

what? this is much worse,much much

 

[SiegfriedFM]

My back hurts as hell today. GIEV GOLD PLX!

Not surprised though. Does the US has some sort of disability benefits? Sweden has a huge program for paying assistants to disabled people. Since they may need help 24/7, this can be extreme amounts. And obviously, there are cheaters, both random people that claim to be disabled and then are found on Thailand beaches or doing gardening, or even worse, criminal groups that register as caretakers for disabled people (often immigrants who can't communicate with authorities themselves) and then simply pocket the money or give only very basic help.

All of which casts doubt on people that actually need the help.

 

[elementalsin]

Con artists and some crimes. A person can justify their actions with anything, but it doesn't change whether what they did was inherently good or bad. I believe it's wrong to steal say a loaf of bread in order to feed your starving family, but I can respect it.

intro to philosophy eh?

 

[Daingurse]

intro to philosophy eh?

Nah. Just the cold gray reality of life.

 

[GenericBadGuy]

So is this like Kickstarter where nothing can be done, or is there expected to be repercussions (other than being banned from the stream site)?

 

[NoRéN]

Eh, still not as bad as the guy who accidentally left his stream on while having sex with his girlfriend. Or the dude who left his stream on while masturbating.

Yeah. At least he didn't get up and masturbate on his girlfriend.

 

[FINALBOSS]

Can you guys stop feeding Daingurse so he'll just shut the fuck up.

This thread needs to be focused on Zillian's horrible actions. I want more info asap

 

[Hung_real]

I would love to see the "dog in a fish shop" bit become a meme. Classic. The fucking nerve of some people.

not in a zilian year

 

[Daingurse]

Can you guys stop feeding Daingurse so he'll just shut the fuck up.

This thread needs to be focused on Zillian's horrible actions. I want more info asap

Yes please stop baiting me to come back to this thread. I'm trying to argue why Tyranitar is the best.

 

[10101]

My back hurts as hell today. GIEV GOLD PLX!

Not surprised though. Does the US has some sort of disability benefits? Sweden has a huge program for paying assistants to disabled people. Since they may need help 24/7, this can be extreme amounts. And obviously, there are cheaters, both random people that claim to be disabled and then are found on Thailand beaches or doing gardening, or even worse, criminal groups that register as caretakers for disabled people (often immigrants who can't communicate with authorities themselves) and then simply pocket the money or give only very basic help.

All of which casts doubt on people that actually need the help.

Its the same in the UK we have good benefits for people with disabilities, we also have a fair amount of people taking advantage of said system. Mind you it has recently changed (for the better I hope) so it should be harder to scam now.

Just hope it doesn't deter / affect those that really need it as we should be helping these people.

 

[we.are.the.armada]

Criminal, plain and simple. Anybody know if ADA provisions have language for this sort of act?

 

[amrod]

As someone who is in a wheelchair, to see someone faking it for personal gain is fucked up...

Here's hoping he gets in a accident and really gets to be in one!

 

[mrgreen]

Man, Juniors have been really bad for the past few weeks.

Sorry but thats really a snobbish and really annoying thing to say. At least he isn't one of the 10000 members who spam the forums just to say the same thing as the person before them. "Salty, but he is right"....."dat"....fuck me, members are enlightening geniuses and juniors are idiots.

 

[NoRéN]

As someone who is in a wheelchair, to see someone faking it for personal gain is fucked up...

Here's hoping he gets in a accident and really gets to be in one!

Don't go to Disneyland. So many miracles once they get to skip the line.

 

[Mr Jared]

While I'm sure this thread will somehow come back to haunt my Google search rankings, I'm glad I missed that bit of Detective GAF misfire ;D

Officially, from the Twitch perspective, this has been handled. We closed his account, terminated his partnership contract, and we'll be issuing refunds to his subscribers in the coming week. Everything else is in the hands of the people he defrauded, of which I'm sure they'll seek retribution, as they probably should.

Obvious, reprehensible behavior aside, what upsets me most about this is that Twitch has numerous, established disabled gamers, and what this guy did is a huge slap into the face to people such as Aieron, and communities such as AbleGamers, who are helping raise awareness of their causes, as well as providing positive environments for fellow disabled gamers. I just hope this doesn't affect them in the long run.

 

[Hex]

While I'm sure this thread will somehow come back to haunt my Google search rankings, I'm glad I missed that bit of Detective GAF misfire ;D

Officially, from the Twitch perspective, this has been handled. We closed his account, terminated his partnership contract, and we'll be issuing refunds to his subscribers in the coming week. Everything else is in the hands of the people he defrauded, of which I'm sure they'll seek retribution, as they probably should.

Obvious, reprehensible behavior aside, what upsets me most about this is that Twitch has numerous, established disabled gamers, and what this guy did is a huge slap into the face to people such as Aieron, and communities such as AbleGamers, who are helping raise awareness of their causes, as well as providing positive environments for fellow disabled gamers. I just hope this doesn't affect them in the long run.

Good shit sir.
And I agree, it is shitty that this may hurt those that get genuine help and that do put themselves out there.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Yes please stop baiting me to come back to this thread. I'm trying to argue why Tyranitar is the best.

What happened to all those Pokemon you were bragging about discussing?

 

[MaximumFlipFlop]

Yes please stop baiting me to come back to this thread. I'm trying to argue why Tyranitar is the best.

Are you gonna leave or keep F5ing the page to see who disagrees with your shitty views?

 

[Daingurse]

What happened to all those Pokemon you were bragging about discussing?

My list is so far is. . .

1.Tyranitar
2.?????
3.?????
4.?????
5.?????
6.?????
7.?????
8.?????
9.?????
10.????

This is far more difficult than I anticipated. . .

 

[ExigentContact]

Mein Führer, I can walk!

That first reply.

 

[baphomet]

A fool and their money...

Sucks some people are so easily scammed, but that's what happens when people are so easily trusted. And people thinking legal action can/will happen are hilarious. Do you sue the homeless person you give money because they use the money you have them for drugs instead of food?

 

[Daingurse]

Are you gonna leave or keep F5ing the page to see who disagrees with your shitty views?

The latter if people keep responding to me.

 

[grandjedi6]

People need to learn to stop giving out donations to strangers online

 

[SapientWolf]

People need to learn to stop giving out donations to strangers online

I don't think that's always a bad idea. These people just need to be vetted. Skepticism is a healthy thing.

 

[The_Monk]

While I'm sure this thread will somehow come back to haunt my Google search rankings, I'm glad I missed that bit of Detective GAF misfire ;D

Officially, from the Twitch perspective, this has been handled. We closed his account, terminated his partnership contract, and we'll be issuing refunds to his subscribers in the coming week. Everything else is in the hands of the people he defrauded, of which I'm sure they'll seek retribution, as they probably should.

Obvious, reprehensible behavior aside, what upsets me most about this is that Twitch has numerous, established disabled gamers, and what this guy did is a huge slap into the face to people such as Aieron, and communities such as AbleGamers, who are helping raise awareness of their causes, as well as providing positive environments for fellow disabled gamers. I just hope this doesn't affect them in the long run.

Thanks for posting it here fellow GAFfer. I also got caught by the bad detective GAF case and I kindly apologize for the early mistake.

Good to see Twitch refunding his subscribers. I really do hope there's no problem with the rest of the Disabled gamers but I can see this case to harm them, that is what saddens me to be honest. We can only hope there's no repeat cases like this one.

EDIT: I just saw another streamer talking about this and an interesting question came about people who cast for Donations like Cancer or other social events. They had the chip-in or similar, their own Paypal account but not all of them give some sort of proof that the money went indeed to the association, it's just a bar filling up with money from good people but there's no real proof if the money goes to where they say it goes.

Does Twitch has some form to verify this or is it simply something that they don't intend on controlling?

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

4chan, unleash.

 

[Spookie]

4chan, unleash.

I'm surprised they haven't attempted to ruin his life already.

 

[Audioboxer]

Very sick fuck, glad he got outed.

 

[Canis lupus]

What happened to the girls account?

 

[zainetor]

Eh, still not as bad as the guy who accidentally left his stream on while having sex with his girlfriend. Or the dude who left his stream on while masturbating.

this cant be true...right?

 

[syllogism]

A fool and their money...

Sucks some people are so easily scammed, but that's what happens when people are so easily trusted. And people thinking legal action can/will happen are hilarious. Do you sue the homeless person you give money because they use the money you have them for drugs instead of food?

Legal action is absolutely possible, both criminal and civil, but neither is likely.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

this cant be true...right?

Oh it's true. It's damn true.

 

[Mr Jared]

EDIT: I just saw another streamer talking about this and an interesting question came about people who cast for Donations like Cancer or other social events. They had the chip-in or similar, their own Paypal account but not all of them give some sort of proof that the money went indeed to the association, it's just a bar filling up with money from good people but there's no real proof if the money goes to where they say it goes.

Does Twitch has some form to verify this or is it simply something that they don't intend on controlling?

There's really no way for us to verify these things, and it comes down to broadcaster responsibility. For example, the last time I ran a charity event myself, I posted the final receipts from the donation to the event website. The only way we could, in a technical fashion, verify these types of scenarios is if we were to develop some kind of transaction feature into the site itself, but then we're essentially competing with PayPal, and having to handle transaction fees, and it starts getting extremely messy.

this cant be true...right?

The former was banned outright, while the latter only temporarily. In the case of the latter, you couldn't actually see the act.. you just knew it was happening. The story hit the blogs and the guy took it surprisingly well. So, instead of contributing to ruining his life, we decided to just put him on a final notice probation.

And of course these things are going to happen. It's live video on the internet. People go cray-cray.

 

[Ingueferroque]

You get people saying all the time, "FIRST POST NAILS IT, AS ALWAYS!" and "best first post evar!!1" but for pure timing, perfection, relevancy to the story and sheer genius, you my friend, have genuinely contributed the [greatest] first reply that this forum has or ever will see.

I am humbled.

 

[The_Monk]

There's really no way for us to verify these things, and it comes down to broadcaster responsibility. For example, the last time I ran a charity event myself, I posted the final receipts from the donation to the event website. The only way we could, in a technical fashion, verify these types of scenarios is if we were to develop some kind of transaction feature into the site itself, but then we're essentially competing with PayPal, and having to handle transaction fees, and it starts getting extremely messy.

Thanks a lot for answering. It could be a god idea to let people who donate to have a proof in the end of the event/stream. The way you did it it's very simple and easy to do, so other streamers should not have any trouble doing that. Hope they can do it to keep the trust on the level.