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Street Fighter pads from MadCatz
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SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Do people usually use the tip of their thumb or the hard part in the center? I usually use the center of my thumb and I tend to do pretty well on almost any dpad. It may make a difference.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
?LuCkymoON said:
It's easy on any decent pad. I don't understand how anybody could slide around the edge on most pads, as there are usually all sorts of grooves or notches on the pad to slide over.
I always keep my thumb really close to the center and roll for most motions. I'm also left-handed, so I may have more dexterity in my left thumb.
I always have wondered why the main directional input is on the left side of most controllers, for that matter.
wackojackosnose
Member
SapientWolf said:
I've always used the centre/boney part of my thumb on a D-pad. It works perfectly with the Sega joypads but it's a fucking nightmare with the segmented PS2 D-pad - so much pain!
RedAssedApe
Banned
marwan said:
Rhetorical question?
gutter_trash
Banned
LuCkymoON said:
easy, the rolling motion makes easy circular motions
George Claw M.D.
Member
That was actually a setup at CES, showcasing the the MadCatz SFIV product line. The Nazi scene on the display was Photoshopped in, by someone else. (don't know why)marwan said:
There are plenty of people getting SFIV for PS3, including me. The reason that everyone is discussing the 360 pads, in this thread, is because the first people to get their hands on the pads, in the wild, got them at Best Buy, and Best Buy is, apparently, only selling the 360 version.
There have been reports, however, of people already getting the TE sticks for both systems. UPS tracking shows mine should be arriving next Tuesday.
Splash Wave
Member
I really dislike this controller. I'm willing to sell mine if anyone is interested. I currently have the Ken version (for 360) and all the original packaging. I could let it go for 39 shipped, or I could exchange this one for another if you prefer it new, although I've only used it for about 10 minutes. If I do exchange it, I can't guarantee which character is going to be on the pad.
Spent some more time with this pad, and my verdict is it's mediocre at best. I'd say it's in the same class as the ASCII and Nuby pads. It's pretty much the only pad option for the 360, so it'll have to do if you're a pad fan. The d-pad is just too big and needs way too much travel for ducking to jumping or charging. I've played with enough pads that I don't need a lot of adjustment period and don't think it should take long to adjust to a d-pad in general, and this one has yet to feel good and I'm missing too many jumps and movements.
Oddly, I've been played some Darkstalkers and Alpha 3 on my PSP-2000, and the d-pad on it feels so much better to me. Actually it feels really good, even more so than my DS3 or DS2 pads. I was barely missing any moves unlike this controller. Weird.
So, pretty disappointed overall. Hopefully another company will give us a better option. Sega would be crazy not to put out some Saturn 360 pads.
Oddly, I've been played some Darkstalkers and Alpha 3 on my PSP-2000, and the d-pad on it feels so much better to me. Actually it feels really good, even more so than my DS3 or DS2 pads. I was barely missing any moves unlike this controller. Weird.
So, pretty disappointed overall. Hopefully another company will give us a better option. Sega would be crazy not to put out some Saturn 360 pads.
Kintaro said:
Short answers, yes. The problem isn't the size itself, but also the design, making the controller feel, to me, far too big and bulky, to a degree that I almost find it uncomfortable to use for a long amount of time.
I think it may also be a case of what angle you're coming at the controller from. Is it about the same size as a 360 controller? Sure, maybe. But I care more about this as a "Saturn Pad 2" if you will, and in that regard, it's much bigger than the Saturn pad. What I want from a general controller and a 2D / Fighting Game controller are quite different.
gutter_trash
Banned
marwan said:
PS3 has more options
PS2 Saturn + Pelican Adapter
USB Saturn
more Sticks
DS3 is more decent thant standard MS pad
360ers have less options to choice from, the SF4 pad is supposed to be a solution to MS's D-Pad
wow, so we suffer through 3 years of shitty d-pads and suddenly we get picky? :lol
jk, I can appreciate people's preferences. But after a half hour in SSF2HDR, I already feel like the 360 d-pad's reign of terror is over. I agree the controller feels a little cheap and you do have to press in a bit harder on the pad than I would have liked, but once you get used to its style, it's fine.
also, I can punish dragon punches and do combos again. yay!
jk, I can appreciate people's preferences. But after a half hour in SSF2HDR, I already feel like the 360 d-pad's reign of terror is over. I agree the controller feels a little cheap and you do have to press in a bit harder on the pad than I would have liked, but once you get used to its style, it's fine.
also, I can punish dragon punches and do combos again. yay!
I guess I was using "cheap" as a synonym for light. It's light. Not quite original six-axis light, but it's lighter than the 360 controller. This is mad catz though...I'm sure the team was great, but the company probably wanted to buy cheap parts for the pads.
Just played some ikargua...this was a game I couldn't play past the second stage before, since you need pixel-perfect control over your ship in the second stage. Plays fine now.
Just played some ikargua...this was a game I couldn't play past the second stage before, since you need pixel-perfect control over your ship in the second stage. Plays fine now.
gutter_trash
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the words "cheap" reminds me of ASCII. I hope it is not as frail as the ASCII
RedAssedApe
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Mamesj said:
The feeling of cheapness isn't just about it being light though. I think its a combo of the lightness (no battery and no rumble) combined with the cheapness of the buttons (both look and feel). There's also the price factor. Its the same price as the wireless stock 360 pad and more expensive than the wired version.
That being said the pad has been working great so far. We'll see how it holds up when SFIV comes out.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
That's another thing that makes me sad about the Xbox 360 controller. 360 motions are cake with the analog stick, so in theory you can get some of the benefits of a joystick on the analog stick while still having the option of a dpad.CO_Andy said:
I did the dpad mod on the 360 controller and now I'm accidentally jumping when moving the dpad from left to right. So I just traded one problem for another.
So I call up a Best Buy with the SKU #, they tell me they have three pads in stock. "Can I have one held?" I ask, and sure enough they are more than happy to oblige...or so I thought. I drive over there and find out that "we couldn't find them, sorry about that!"
In conclusion: More like Worst Buy, except without the Buy, so just Worst.
In conclusion: More like Worst Buy, except without the Buy, so just Worst.
I actually had the opposite experience.TxdoHawk said:
Called them and they have 1 in-stock. I asked them if they can hold it for me. They said yes. An 1hr later, I got to BB, and went to Customer Service and told them I called. They asked for my name. They gave me the controller with a paper on it with my name.
I wanted a Ken, but they only have Blanka. not bad looking.
Impressions:
I downloaded the SFIIHD Trial. At first I was worried that the controller is wide and I have small hands. After playing, pulling some jump kick connecting to Hurricane Kick with no problem or jump kick with Dragon Punch (then again I can pull some Dragon Punch on 360 analog
) I'm a Guile Player so I hope I can pull off the charge movesI did have problem with diagonal jump backwards.
MobiusPigeon
Banned
marwan said:
i think it has most do do with the vast pool of online competition more than anything else. just as 360 has become the choice of madden gamers, sf4 makes sense as well. its just a larger audience man.
MobiusPigeon
Banned
seriouslyKadey said:
My original intention was to get an Akuma PS3 pad, but since Best Buy only had X360 versions, I ended up getting a Ryu pad, despite not having a X360 to use right now. On PC (one of the reasons I wanted to get one despite also pre-ordering 2 TE sticks was to have a gamepad to use on PC that had a decent D-Pad), I've tested it with Melty Blood, both ReACT and Act Cadenza versions.
Other pads I have for comparison were the Nubytech SF15 PS2 pads and the Saturn pad. Compared to them, I'd say the SFIV pad is clearly superior to the Nubytech ones, and probably just barely below the Saturn pad. On the downside, I find the D-Pad is to be not quite as precise as the Saturn pad's, and the shoulder buttons are much too rigid and doesn't have enough travel in its clicks; on the other hand, I much preferred the SFIV pad's face buttons, with both rows being the same size. The size of the SFIV pad is a bit on the large side, but not obscenely so, and I've always though the Saturn pad was just a bit too small anyway.
The only other issue I have with the SFIV pad is that I wish the 5th and 6th face buttons were LB and RB instead of RB and RT - RT is treated as an axis instead of a button, which means it's useless in many cases with the official X360 controller software. Yes, I know you can get around that with 3rd party drivers like XBCD, but I had to get rid of that because it caused problems with AudioSurf. It's not a deal breaker, but is one of the little things that prevents it from being nigh-perfect.
Other pads I have for comparison were the Nubytech SF15 PS2 pads and the Saturn pad. Compared to them, I'd say the SFIV pad is clearly superior to the Nubytech ones, and probably just barely below the Saturn pad. On the downside, I find the D-Pad is to be not quite as precise as the Saturn pad's, and the shoulder buttons are much too rigid and doesn't have enough travel in its clicks; on the other hand, I much preferred the SFIV pad's face buttons, with both rows being the same size. The size of the SFIV pad is a bit on the large side, but not obscenely so, and I've always though the Saturn pad was just a bit too small anyway.
The only other issue I have with the SFIV pad is that I wish the 5th and 6th face buttons were LB and RB instead of RB and RT - RT is treated as an axis instead of a button, which means it's useless in many cases with the official X360 controller software. Yes, I know you can get around that with 3rd party drivers like XBCD, but I had to get rid of that because it caused problems with AudioSurf. It's not a deal breaker, but is one of the little things that prevents it from being nigh-perfect.
Beer Monkey
Member
marwan said:
Because Beyond3D says that the PS3 version has no AA and drops in resolution during closeups.
just kidding, I only get the version that has the most friends online, small graphical differences don't mean too much to me.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I found the 360 pads at my BB but no PS3 ones. Bummer.
akachan ningen
Member
Plenty of people are getting it on PS3. If you look at fighting game sites like SRK, lots of people are building their sticks for PS3 because the EVO tournaments are going to use PS3 and PS2 for most of their games. And maybe because it's easier to get a PS3 PCB. Either way, you won't be lacking competition on either platform.
timetokill
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marwan said:
1. Xbox Live > PSN
2. More people have Xbox 360 than PS3, therefore most of us have more friends online with 360 than PS3
cartman414
Member
akachan ningen said:
PS2? But aren't the sticks not going to be compatible with that?
MobiusPigeon
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i couldnt even see em being used at evo being accurate. capcom has showcased the 360 version at just about every damn event they have thats street fighter related.
akachan ningen
Member
MobiusPigeon said:
too bad capcom isn't running EVO...
it's right on their website. http://evo2k.com/
SF4, SC4, and STHDR are being played on PS3. people with 360 sticks won't be able to use their own. Who knows what kind of sticks, if any, EVO will provide. I don't think they have in the past.
MobiusPigeon
Banned
oh well
donkey show
Member
I'm a Gief player and I had a relatively hard time with the controller. It could be the fact that it feels too big. It wasn't 360 d-pad bad, but it just felt off. It was hard pulling off some of the motions in Remix mode for the Gief. I went back and played HDR on the PS3 with the Saturn pad just to make sure I wasn't tripping out and I pulled off my motions (on classic btw) to near perfection.CO_Andy said:
Granted I'm a stick player mostly, I just didn't feel really satisfied with the FightPad in comparison to other controllers I've played fighting games with (i.e. Saturn Pad, Dual Shock, SNES controller, etc.) From my short time with it so far, I'd say it's midrange at best.
EDIT: Okay, I think I have it down a lot better now with this pad, but it really involves my entire thumb to shift versus small minute movements in order to activate the motions I want.
Hm, now I'm having trouble doing dragon punches with Ryu in ssf2thd with the fightpad. This is crazy. I can consistently do them with Ken, Sagat (tiger knee and tiger uppercut), and Cammy (thrust kick). When I do the same motion for Ryu, he'll sometimes do a dragon punch and other times do a hadoken. It's late and I'm probably going crazy.
George Claw M.D.
Member
akachan ningen already explained about EVO, but regarding Capcom...MobiusPigeon said:
http://kotaku.com/5135827/playstation-dominates-street-fighter-club-round-3
Capcom have shown love to both consoles, thus far.Kotaku said:
rollingstart
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SanjuroTsubaki said:
I never had choppy online on SF2HD, but I did have lack of competition. No one played Classic and even finding a game in Remix became hard. I hope it doesn't repeat in SF4. I would get the 360 version if they let me use my VSHG on my 360, sadly I can't.
digita1alchemy
Member
marwan said:
I'd rather have the game on PS3, personally, so I could have a wireless fightpad and get the Blu Ray movie...but in my little group of friends who all play 2D fighters not everyone has a PS3. Everyone does have a 360. So that's what we're all buying it on.
