-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Street Fighter V |OT2| Another Fight Isn't Coming Your Way!
- Thread starter Robot Pants
- Start date
- Status
Mr Crimson, 801 Strider, VRyu are all very good Laura players.
I find that there aren't a ton of ragequitters in the Bronze leagues but lots of super tough opponents. I figure people who are legit good at the game but won't rage quit eventually drop below Silver and are stuck there whereas I find several downright shitty opponents in Silver because they refuse to take a L.
14 game win streak though?
Either he was godlike and just started playing ranked (he wasn't) or he got SUPREMELY lucky with match-making.
Yeah, I tried it earlier this week just for fun. Input lag was slightly noticeable (it's a fighting game after all), but it was nice to be able to use my stick while on the small screen.
It's all a game of luck, really. That's what sucks the most is like you said, you don't really learn anything. When you hit them, it's because they let you hit them. They are especially vulnerable to cross-ups though, but that just makes you play dumbly making you too reliant on them and get blown up by anti-airs when the CPU decides they want to start using them. And when they decide to, well the instant you leave the ground you will be AA'd every. fucking. time.
I just figure if I smash my head against it emough eventually I'll get that line of code that let's me win. It's....fucking terrible...but I at least want to earn Nash's colors. And I want the trophy. I have no idea in fuck how I'm going to get the hell trophy though.
Lag I imagine. Also that is exactly half the amount of the frames as normal. That might make things harder for high level play as well.
I thought the Vita locked games at 30 FPS on remote play.
What's happening in the brain of the average PSN Cammy:
Hahahahaha I think you could apply this to most of the cast for anyone just starting out but I still couldn't help but laugh.
Also after playing some Ken tonight with a friend I've determined that he's the closest thing this game has to ibuki - if you can vskill dash into DP repeatedly it feels like you aren't really trying very hard so that might explain the ken army out and about. My friend isn't that big of a scrub though so after a couple of wins he stomped me pretty good with his vega.
Also, why is it that battle lounge doesn't net you any experience ? yet another thing missing from SF4 , that game would give you colors and titles doing local versus at least. I don't need fight money but give me something besides practice.
Me and street fighter have this relationship where I just barely think I've got it figured out on some level and then I get shut down but in the last year I've improved to the point where I can figure out where I went wrong ... just not so much how to get better in some cases.
I still kind of feel like Ryu should be the first pick for anyone - he can easily teach you spacing , the importance of blocking and using / relying on quality normals rather than specials all the time. Switching from Ryu to Ken you then learn how to get in to your opponents space quicker while also using specials in smarter ways. Going from Ken to Rashid you get variations on the shoto moveset , more complicated setups to practice. After that I think going to Cammy isn't a bad idea , you've gotta take what you learned and apply it to a character that has no projectile that also takes a bit more damage. That , to me, represents a healthy beginner class.
From there , I think it's safe to move to grapplers , they've got enough life and do enough damage that you are allowed a couple more mistakes. I think Zangeif is the best starting point , get used to 180/360 motions , pay even closer attention to spacing while utilizing his vskill/vtrigger to mitigate damage and open up grabbing opportunities. From him I think Laura is the next stop , faster/ gives you back a projectile and has a bit more range to her setups but can't take quite as much damage. R.Mika is a good stop after Laura , no projectile again but similar speed and range but better damage , it also forces the player to really learn how to shove opponents into the corner and take proper measures to keep them there. The mix-up queen. Finally Birdie - he's the hardest grappler if you ask me because he's simply got more variety to his moveset and vskill than the other 3 do , more buttons = more complexity but I will say if you want to mash buttons birdie isn't a bad character to do it with because he's like zangeif with more range. Utilizing the knowledge of the other 3 grapplers will help the player use birdie properly I think.
From there I think you can move on to the more technical characters - Necalli is a good start because he's a well rounded character but he forces you to learn to utilize charge moves effectively while also applying some grappler spacing since he has a command grab. From him I think it's best to move to Chun Li , one of the most combo happy characters in the game - master the art of spacing and the pressure game and push yourself to do combos with her to maximize damage. Thus we arrive at Nash , the guy with an answer for everything and some simpler combos (compared to chun) I feel he's one of the better overall characters in SFV and thanks to his moveset , much like birdie - he's scrub friendly but if you want to learn the game properly ? save him for later on when you understand more of how the other characters work and can utilize his skillset fully. The master class of technical characters if you ask me is Karin , sure much like nash and birdie she's got some scrub friendly tactics (which can be blocked easily FYI) but she also lacks a projectile and her spacing game is a bit odd , she requires finesse to utilize properly but man oh man, if you can use the previous 11 characters before getting here ? so much more opens up because you should be able to more easily appreciate Karins abilities.
Finally you've got the masterclass - these are the characters you pick when you find the other 12 boring or are looking for something different. The easiest of the bunch to use is probably Vega/CLAW but between his dual fighting styles (claw/noclaw) , command grab and leap variations - I just don't feel he's beginner friendly. Using him after learning some of what Karin has to offer though, that should open him up a bit more. From there I feel like Bison is next , not only do you need to make use of the charge lessons you've learned from Necalli and Chun Li but the spacing game with Bison is super important , proper utilization of his vskill/vtrigger can be the difference between a big win and being shut down. He's incredibly strong when properly used though and I feel , learning him 14th in line is a way to make this task simpler, not to mention the matchup knowledge you gain. The last 2 characters I feel are tied at the top end of complexity - F.A.N.G and Dhalsim - both play in a zoning playstyle but they operate at slightly different ranges and Dhalsim uses quarter circle motions while fang relies mostly on charges just like bison. I think another way to look at it - Dhalsim is constantly playing keep away , FANG looks like he's playing keep away but he actually wants the opponent to come in. It's complicated though right ? While I don't think you've got to master the whole cast or anything , I feel like learning the basics in this order will make anyone playing this game a bit stronger over all.
Oh wait. Wasn't there an update?
I'm over 300k in FM now after another Normal Survival; with Ryu this time. 5 out of 16 done there.
This is like MVC2 Arcade Hard...on the lowest difficulty. Which, if you never knew, was actually pretty damn hard. It's just brute force without the protection of continues. It's just embarrassing. All around. Terrible content. It's not a meaty mode. It's piano wire. Thin, but tough as hell and annoying.
Part of me thinks the people who designed this mode were delusional in thinking that it was good. The same people probably made the tutorial, thinking that was good.
This is like MVC2 Arcade Hard...on the lowest difficulty. Which, if you never knew, was actually pretty damn hard. It's just brute force without the protection of continues. It's just embarrassing. All around. Terrible content. It's not a meaty mode. It's piano wire. Thin, but tough as hell and annoying.
Part of me thinks the people who designed this mode were delusional in thinking that it was good. The same people probably made the tutorial, thinking that was good.
Got stunned in two of two rounds against a Chun who has clearly played fighting games much longer than I. In bronze ranking.
Ask yourself this when they do that:
Why is this guy who thinks he is so good.... STILL IN BRONZE?
Answer: Someone bopped him. And probably taunted him. He was probably like you. Just starting out, and faced an asshat. But now he moved up, and wants to pick on newer players. So in turn, he is now the gatekeeper between bronze and silver. Soon you will be like him some day lol! Taunting when you win... The cycle continues. Keep the salt flowing.
Haha this helped, thanks. I'm just finding it hard to learn from losses that hard, so the taunts really make me pissed. There's something to learn from every loss though, I suppose.
Alternatively: They bought the game yesterday.
Is there? I never owned the Vita, so I wouldn't know.
Brian_FETO
Banned
There's no reason to take that sort of thing personally
You have the same ability to taunt, show them you don't give a fuck by returning the favor
It can be an uphill battle a lot of the time with losses but at the end of the day getting stunned should feel way worse than a taunt. That player earned it. Keep playing and eventually you'll lose less and find yourself opposite someone who just got rekt
Thanks a buncheon, fellows. Very curious to check out VRyu especially - his Makoto was a joy to behold.
skLaFarebear
Member
It got updated so that you can choose to remote play it in 30 or 60 FPS.
Askherserenity
Member
Uploaded this fight a few days ago.
The previous two wins I had before this match were from the same dude. You'll never guess what happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUjgrMvKXls
The previous two wins I had before this match were from the same dude. You'll never guess what happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUjgrMvKXls
Yea could've sworn they unlocked the frame rate.
Ah, okay. That actually makes me more interested in picking up a Vita. Hopefully the memory cards are actually cheap enough to buy now...
They aren't. Also the system's barely supported by Sony so I'd be weary. Mine broke a while back and I have no desire to get another.
skLaFarebear
Member
They're still stupid expensive, but they do occasionally go on sale.
Hmm, disappointing. I'll see if I can pick one up cheap. Still need to pick up a New 3DS XL, or the NX if that is backwards compatible as well.
StylesClash
Member
League down. League up. League down.
.500 fighter lol
.500 fighter lol
skLaFarebear
Member
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
I really wish I had more local friends to play this with. I'm wasting half my time (or probably more than half) playing online looking at loading and connecting screens. I want to play damn it.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Go to practice mode and test punishes.
If that's really it, then that's ridiculous. His normals seems flat out amazing, particularly his hard attacks. Even if it seems punishable, they throw out so many that I get pushed back too far to reliably do anything.
It's definitely the matchup I need the most practice with.
MiniBossBattle
Member
Get out of my head!What's happening in the brain of the average PSN Cammy:
kingofthedead45
Member
So my girlfriend just made me realize I've spent roughly 310 us dollars on sf5. 60 on the digital version to play at midnight on launch, 100 on the collectors edition for the ryu statue and 150 on the rap 4 arcade stick. What have I done?! What's the most you've guys have spent on a single game?
First rule of facing Bison: down back.
Check his dashes, don't let him run up on you. If you get a knockdown, harrass the ever loving shit out of him. He has no wake-up at all, except maybe wake-up super.
I like it up here. Spacious.
I can never react to teleport dash through normals into grab. -_-
Boogalogist
Member
It doesn't just stop there. Just wait till the DLC costume comes out...
Experience and practice.
Set the dummy to dash in your face and time some buttons. You just gotta check him the same way you got to check Sims teleport or he's in your face mashing knee all match.
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Finally at 1k, I think 2k is what I could get to in about two weeks (new matchups are wrecking me still), now that ranked mode is more stable (tournament players hanging around 4k)
Good shit ridiculously he couldn't take that beating like a man.
If you're rich then you're rich. Nothing to be ashamed of.
MiniBossBattle
Member
I'm mashing but it's not working. Stop blocking dood.
I wish I had that kinda cash lol
Would've gotten the collector's edition instead of the standard. As for most I've ever spent on a single game, somewhere around a hundredish for CEs and/or double dips lol
kingofthedead45
Member
That was discussed lol. She was like you still need to buy the season pass, I was like nah gurl nah, fight money. Ill be winning matches for days. (I wont, that's an insane amount of wins in hindsight)
- Status