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Suicide Squad Achieves $260M+ WW & Rotten Tomato Score of 26%
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YesNOnoNOYes
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i think we are drift compatible, mono :>
Discotheque
Banned
they did kinda crap work honestly. that script and many of the dialogue scenes were just pure shite. kudos for giving us some mech action though. it was a fun concept that i'm amazed hadn't been done yet in a big tentpole.
Oh man don't think I have seen an opinion so wrong in my life.
X-Men marketing sucked. And it suffered because Deadpool is the joint best X-Men film with the best costumes and it's not even an X-Men film.
Then three months later Singer released an overly serious film.
Boombloxer
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This isnt true. You need good wom for legs.
BronsonLee
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That might not even be enough anymore
Civil War was sterling and even it dropped 60
BrutishMrFish
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I'm a big fan of Godzilla and Gamera, and even that movie annoyed me. The only character in a Godzilla movie that comes close to being as annoying and unlikable as the ones in Pacific Rim is the sleazy reporter in The Return of Godzilla. The action was really good, but the dialogue was terrible enough to match the acting, and Del Toro intentionally lowering the bar is no excuse.
Suicide Squad was the worse movie, but it had better characters by far.
YesNOnoNOYes
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cant agree with bolded
i think SS has better characters at the conceptual stage but what i got from the movie was a bunch of half baked characterization works :< and for a few of them, they kept doing weird decisions that didn't really make sense
(e.g. boomerang leaving the bar right after the detonator was destroyed only to come back in the next scene, diablo surrendering himself to the cops cuz he was remorseful for killing but then he was shown to kill a bunch of inmates in prison and then he was shown again not to want to even use his powers during their mission against putties enemies, harley choosing her new found friends over the chance of being able to ressurect joker, to name a few)
i really really wanted to like SS :<
PhoncipleBone
Banned
60% is the norm for second weekend drops on big movies now. It is when it hits 65+ that you worry. Although some films, like MoS, have sharp 2nd weekend drops then stabilize.
The problem is we keep looking to Dark Knight and Avengers legs and expecting that. Those are the outliers as far as box office performance.
Or MCU
YesNOnoNOYes
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Nothing touches the Dark Knight for me. Nothingggggggggggg.
BrutishMrFish
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Sure, but Pacific Rim's characters were even less developed and devoid of anything that could have made them likeable. I'm not saying Suicide Squad's characters were great, but at least it had some good actors who got a few funny moments, and I didn't leave the movie wishing the bad guys won.
YesNOnoNOYes
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I kinda prefer Pacific Rim's two dimensional characters to how SS completely butchered characters that could otherwise have been really stellar, but i get where you're coming from too. I guess that feeling of being disappointed coloured the way I feel about SS characters.
We'll see. I personally think the 54/56.5% drop comparison is negligible considering how much bigger Suicide Squad's opening was (pulling in a big Monday seems difficult for just about any movie), but I wouldn't be shocked if the movie fell off quicker.
This second weekend will be telling. I wonder if it'll take top spot again.
You are out of your mind if you think X-Men Apocalypse is "overly serious," especially when compared to Singer's last X-Men movie or the likes of Batman V Superman. I mean, c'mon, the signature scene is a series of slow-motion gags cut to "Sweet Dreams." There's a GoPro shot of a dog in it for crying out loud.
The Artisan
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what?
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Even a BvS drop means SS takes #1 again. Unless Sausage Party does double its expected business or Pete's Dragon is giant.
Slurpy2k20
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Kind of depressing how this movie, which is absolute garbage on all levels, has done so well. Shit is rewarded and validated, and the studio has no motivation to make anything better in the future.
The Artisan
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why is it so bad (in a spoiler free way)?
LiveFromKyoto
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Being overly serious is the X-Men's entire deal.
To me, it felt really obvious that this movie has been chopped and edited and re-edited to be more like Guardians and Deadpool. Basically, directed by comittee. 'Let's make it dark and funny'
YesNOnoNOYes
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I thought XMen: Apocalypse was the one out of the three (BvS, CivWar and Apoc) that felt actually cartoony to me
BvS and CivWar felt like comic book movies made for adults, all serious like, whilst Apoc retained some of its less serious comicbooky feels.
Audience ratings for these sorts of films (i.e. fanboy bait) are usually brigaded with top scores as soon as they become open. For an example (albeit in the opposite direction), see Ghostbusters.
Quote from the movie.
It's a reference to a line from the movie.
I enjoyed the movie quite a bit... but I recognize that my enjoyment mostly comes from seeing the characters well done on screen is independent of the actual film making prowess on display.
I want more Suicide Squad on the big screen so I'm happy that it's over-performing, but I want the next movie to be, you know... good. I'm torn.
TBiddy
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I'm still amazed how Del Tore managed to make a movie about giant monsters and robots fighting each other that boring. He wanted to make a movie that made young people fall in love with monsters and robots. I'd argue that he failed. But it was much better than Transformers, that's for sure. Though, that's probably not saying much heh.
Inferno313
Banned
It opened well, but I think it's going to follow a similar trajectory as BvS, and drop off quicker than a film with better buzz would've.
And honestly, as a DC fan, I think that's ideal. These films opening big IS a good thing, because it shows Warner that there's an audience for this world and these characters. These films dropping off relatively quickly is also a good thing, because it shows Warner that just having this world and these characters isn't enough, that they need to tell us good stories with them.
Discotheque
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Yeah it felt like a couple episodes of the cartoon honestly.
The Artisan
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what do you think it should've lean more towards? dark, or funny?
oh.
SomedayTheFire
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i was looking forward to this so much. so so much. bvs too, to the point where i mostly ignored pre release negativity. thought all trailers for both were really well done.
however, they're probably the two worst films i've watched this year so far. super disappointing. i do hope it does well though. maybe they can learn from their mistakes and make better films.
however, they're probably the two worst films i've watched this year so far. super disappointing. i do hope it does well though. maybe they can learn from their mistakes and make better films.
Dude, did you forget about the bird attack?
That might have been even more hysterical than anything in Deadpool
It was a really fun movie, my main gripe was the plot toward the 2nd half of the movie and the lack of character building for the other villains. Otherwise I really liked it.
They can do a lot better, and that's exactly why I will keep watching DC movies, especially with Geoff John's at the helm now.
They can do a lot better, and that's exactly why I will keep watching DC movies, especially with Geoff John's at the helm now.
That's a depressing thought.
Salty Rice
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Because it was enjoyable fun. It had many problems but far from garbage.
PhoncipleBone
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Even if TDKR has problems, they are nowhere near as numerous or as big as the problems that MoS or BvS had.
Salty Rice
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I edited my post. Read Marvel instead DCEU haha
On the other hand if i really think about it Man Of Steel is a better movie than Dark Knight Rises.
I don't know if that's necessarily the case. BvS made $800m but WB still felt compelled to course correct (and maybe overreact) on SS and next year's DC movies.
An opinion can't be wrong or right, hence why it's an opinion and not a fact.
Mighty Chin
Banned
I like it when Batman saved all those people on the boat and captured the Joker.
Dark would be keeping in style with the other DC cinematic universe movies we've seen so far.
-Plasma Reus-
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I don't fully understand the box office figures.
How well is this movie doing? Because I enjoyed it and would like a revisit to this world or even a sequel.
How well is this movie doing? Because I enjoyed it and would like a revisit to this world or even a sequel.
BronsonLee
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You're probably getting a sequel
No it's not. It's not even close to that.
The the second point, the reason they interfered in this project so much was because of the reception BvS got... so again, wrong on both accounts.
Besting Civil War? That doesn't sound right... that thing was monstrous.
-Plasma Reus-
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Thank you based Bronson. Always giving me good things.
This isn't a bad movie. I've watched bad movies. I've even enjoyed some of them. This isn't one of them.
What about me
Killer Queen
Banned
Honestly it looks like DC is willing to try to fix their movies and do better in the future so I'm happy this is doing well along with getting critically panned. Because it means that they have a reason to make a sequel but also make a better sequel. Obviously the reviews hurt them which is why we got what we did, the issue is what lessons they learn from the mistakes they make and unfortunately this time they happened to learn the wrong lessons. Of you choose not to watch their future output more power to you, but burning everything down and starting over isn't going to help, it'll just leave people disinterested. And honestly the DCCU has many great things and ideas that I really enjoy, sometimes they're just mishandled and a lot of that has to do with the studio.
sindbadthesailor
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Saw it yesterday. It was terrible but still, somehow, strangely fun at times.
But really, plot holes everywhere coupled with myopic studio interference that just ruins the whole point.
If DC wanted to succeed, they'd put whoever runs the animated department in charge of the live action films. Now those, well most of them, are actually worth watching. Batman: Assault on Arkham did it right.
But really, plot holes everywhere coupled with myopic studio interference that just ruins the whole point.
If DC wanted to succeed, they'd put whoever runs the animated department in charge of the live action films. Now those, well most of them, are actually worth watching. Batman: Assault on Arkham did it right.
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