Everything Croc said made me cringe.
Especially the end when he was watching BET.....wtf
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Suicide Squad's box office business plunges just like Batman v Superman's did
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Everything Croc said made me cringe.
Especially the end when he was watching BET.....wtf
Yeezus H. Christ
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A second weekend of $40-50 million in the context of a $135 million OW is bad.
Please stop with this "if only people wouldn't listen to critics" bullshit. People have seen the movie and don't agree with you that it's great.
Yeezus H. Christ
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When SS was getting good weekday numbers: "Haha, people don't give a shit about critics, people like what they like!"
After this 67% drop is revealed: "Why do people listen to critics so much!"
Killer Queen
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So you counter stereotypes with stereotypes about being "black"? It's a fucking stupid post.
Shrennin
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Getting Paul Dini (and the other minds behind the DCAU like Dan Riba, Bruce Timm, etc.) to be the Kevin Feige of the DCCU would make too much sense. There's just so much that the DCAU did for DC comics itself (Harley Quinn, Freeze's origin, etc.), that it's a wonder what could have been had those minds behind it had been involved.
They should just go even further than that, reboot the whole thing, and get Mark Hamill to play Joker. Why not at this point? Kevin Conroy could even be the voice amplifier for Batman. =P
I'm not countering stereotypes with sterotypes. I'm saying that Croc is a terrible sterotype and Deadshot isn't, I added some hyperbole about needing him.
What's up with you?
DontBeThatGuy
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it's time to start shrinking those budgets.
Dash_Riprock
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Don't forget the perennial favorite "Fuck the critics!"
Says you and only you.
Killer Queen
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I mean you're right, Deadshot is no worse a stereotype when he talks about beating women and calling them hoes. /S
BronsonLee
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Deadshot is literally just Will Smith with a bit more edge to em
LOOK AT THAT HAT
You think I could pull off that hat, fuck no
LOOK AT THAT HAT
You think I could pull off that hat, fuck no
Samurai G0SU
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First Friday tmobile gave away free tickets with its tmobile Tuesday app.
2nd Friday Nada. Makes sense to me.
2nd Friday Nada. Makes sense to me.
He's a terrible person. Or he's supposed to be, he gets angry and calls them a hoe which is something people still say nowadays.
Will played it all well, my gripes with him are all in his "arc". There's nothing on the level of "You just completed this suicide mission and can have anything you want, what is it?"
"BET"
"Shot of Croc watching some ass shaking"
Maybe at Sony, but Suicide Squad is still bringing in significant money.
WB is more in need of better direction.
BadAss2961
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Croc is Croc, just with added humor to go with the flow of the movie. A+ look too, insane prosthetics.
Kibbles
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Or people who listen to critics telling their friends they heard it was bad, happens all the time. Took 6 friends and they all liked it, theater cheered.
Best DC movie since TDK and better than most Marvel films besides Civil War
It's definitely a disappointing film, but I didn't hate the movie, I'm surprised by some people who truly did, but I think the huge box office of opening weekend shows that people didn't listen to critics.
The box office drop the second weekend shows that people decided they didn't like it and don't recommend it to others.
You can say that as many times as you want, it won't make anyone agree with you.
Yeezus H. Christ
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If this was remotely true, SS wouldn't have had such a huge opening weekend.
BronsonLee
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Reviews only matter so much for a summer blockbuster film tho
No he isn't. Hell there's barely enough of him to tell, he's like Arkham tier bad if you can somehow surmise a character from this.
Somewhat agree on the prosthetics, he looked very stiff. Especially when he spoke.
Killer Queen
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So you have one character that reinforces a negative stereotype and one that reinforces a harmless stereotype and apparently the one that reinforces a negative stereotype is an example of "being black"? I don't really care about either of those things on their own but the fact that Deadshot is supposed to be what being black is like is stupid. I'm not angry at you i just think it's a really stupid point of view. Especially compared to some fairly harmless stereotypes no matter how stupid those are.
Yeezus H. Christ
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Reviews don't actually affect anything. People will see a movie if they're interested in its premise, reviews or not. Doubly so if a summer blockbuster. Marketing has waaaaaaaaay more swaying power than RottenTomatoes.
But reviews is typically a good indicator of word-of-mouth. If you're getting 27% on RT odds are you're not having a hot second weekend drop.
But reviews is typically a good indicator of word-of-mouth. If you're getting 27% on RT odds are you're not having a hot second weekend drop.
Schweinehund
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Finally saw it, below average cbm in my eyes (so like 5/10, TIH, Thor 2 level, but not broken like F4). My theater was about a 1/4th full for a 8pm sat showing.
Still amazes me how some posters are keeping their crusade strong for the better part of the year now.
Still amazes me how some posters are keeping their crusade strong for the better part of the year now.
I never said that Deadshot character is what being black is supposed to be. I'm saying he that isn't a stereotype, just a bad person. I'm saying that Croc isn't a person just a stereotype.
You're really putting words in my mouth.
I think the average movie goer is getting savvier regarding the flicks they see.
But then again, ST Beyond flopped when it shouldn't have. So fuck the average moviegoer.
Yeezus H. Christ
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I think it's just social media making word-of-mouth ten times easier to spread across general audiences. People will see the movie, think it's shit, maybe tweet it or tell their friends, and a hundred more people know to stay away.
It explains these super-frontloaded movies followed by tremendous drops.
BadAss2961
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Everything in the movie falls in line with his origin, likeness, and abilities.
Kill Your Masters
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I'd rather listen to critics than believing this nonsense after MOS and BVS. Not giving WB any more money for tedious movies, if more people would do this, then WB would eventually rethink their strategy and we would get a decent DCEU.
The most superficial parts of him.
Killer Queen
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I wouldn't say hes not a stereotype either. But I apologize, the way you worded your first post makes it really come off that way.
Fair enough.
BassForever
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If only critics didn't hate DC films SS would be making good money
BadAss2961
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Well he's not exactly complex. Plus this an ensemble film where he's not going to get much of the focus. Even in a Batman solo, he'd always have a side role.
I expected a faithful, surface-level introduction to the character, and I got that. He would've really been a different person if say, Nolan directed him in the trilogy.
The Abominable Snowman
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That scene was extremely weird. 106 and Park was the last BET series that still had music videos, kid friendly music videos at that, and that ended when I was in college. Uncut ended when I was in Middle School. I'm damn near 30 now and somehow Croc asked for BET to see white ass? Was it supposed to be set a decade ago?
I'm not sure I entirely believe the Nolan bit, he'd probably just not lean on his newer more monster like depictions.
Rick Flag wasn't Rick Flag either.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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I like Croc's original comic book incarnation when he was just a really smart mob boss. He could go toe to toe with Batman in terms of strategy.
Reviews matter. Just not so much for franchise blockbusters.
Adult skewing dramas and original properties depend on reviews more (unless said film is in the horror genre. Those are allowed to get super shitty reviews).
Alcibiades
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Actually seems like a good hold when you consider that it doesn't include Thursday numbers like the first weekend.
My guess is there was originally a good movie (because the director is good) but the studio ruined it trying to change the tone of the movie after it was already shot
Not really. Even without the previews, it's down 60%.
Did you agree with him because he kept posting that over and over again? If not, then your opinion on the movie has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.i agree with him
Just saw it. Was actually pretty good. Comic book movies are a low bar really lets face it. It sits appropriately with the marvel movies, not any worse, not any better.
Can definitely see the studio fuckery though. Would be interesting to see the "original" version of this movie.
Can definitely see the studio fuckery though. Would be interesting to see the "original" version of this movie.
YesNOnoNOYes
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yeah but wouldnt he still want to put criminals away, i mean
that's the core of batman, right? crime fighter batsie?
im not asking why batman doesnt kill the joker. im wondering why he doesnt put him back into arkham asylum, cuz even in the real world, the assumptions is that you dont just get a jail free card if an inmate or a mental hospital patient broke out of jail or sanatorium, right?
that's the core of batman, right? crime fighter batsie?
im not asking why batman doesnt kill the joker. im wondering why he doesnt put him back into arkham asylum, cuz even in the real world, the assumptions is that you dont just get a jail free card if an inmate or a mental hospital patient broke out of jail or sanatorium, right?
... Are you arguing that no one should take batman seriously now because he just has fetish for psychotic people so he won't put them away?
* scratches head *
???
Okay, I guess!
Username1198
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I don't get the bet joke. Is BET no longer around?
So did SS and BvS, my expectations are rock bottom at this point.
This thread is going full circle
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