callhitman
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man I'm on the fence. What would I guys score this game post patch?
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Super Bomberman R |OT| Buggler? I Hardly Know Her!
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Wired All Wrong
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Not sure what score I'd give it, but if you're into Bomberman and the price doesn't bother you I'd say get it. I've really enjoyed my time with it so far, especially now with this patch.
Haven't really tried grinding out money yet, but I've read beating the final boss over and over was a good way to get gems. Haven't gotten that far in story mode yet to try it out myself. If you can win consistently in ranked, that would be a good way too.
Wired All Wrong
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Anyone want to play multiplayer? Started up a room. Room number is 462373.
LuciusAxelrod
Member
Just played some IRL 4-player games and the increased frame-rate felt so good. We had a real blast. (get it?)
The final boss for sure, it only takes a few minutes and I believe you get 1000 gems on Veteran if you grab every pickup and don't lose any lives. You could do it on Expert for a few more gems but the randomness and length of his second phase targeting attack makes it not really worth the extra effort.
Would the height differences in multi level stuff be noticeable top down? I'd guess it has something to do with the visibility of that.
I just finished the story mode, I was at 4-2 pre-patch and did the rest today. The new framerate is a blessing.
Played a dozen of online matches as well, definitely better than before, only had one match that lagged a bit. Still only first rank though...losing more than I win makes it hard to level up in rank.
Played a dozen of online matches as well, definitely better than before, only had one match that lagged a bit. Still only first rank though...losing more than I win makes it hard to level up in rank.
Geminosity
Member
Because I'm super bored of grinding the final boss for gems I jumped online for the first time last night to see how it goes. I won almost all the matches I played and got 300 gems per match, it's not bad but boss feels more time efficient, albeit less fun 
For the most part it ran pretty well, until I got matched against someone who was 'god class' and appeared to be pretty decent at the game. Sadly I wasn't able to enjoy feeling out how good they were as the connection in the matches we were both in weren't great and it lagged out at several critical moments, the worst being when they spammed a line of bombs at me I could've easily disrupted with punch if the game hadn't been hit with a massive lag spike as I moved to do so (the entire game halted for a good 3 seconds) and caused me to kick it instead :/ I normally enjoy fighting someone I consider potentially on my level or better than me (I honestly savour that sense of friendly rivalry) but whether I won or lost against them it felt hollow as I knew the lag had been an issue throughout the entire match, which is a shame.
I find the revenge carts in competitive a bit questionable as I spend a significant portion of matches with newer opponents having to demonstrate that they can't get me rather than actually fighting my opponents. Usually they get the message eventually and go chase someone else but I still get irked at wasting my time on it, especially on the occasions I've had to wait for the last minute of the match just to get rid of them. I wouldn't mind quite as much if anyone outside of the god class bomber I mentioned before had shown any aptitude for using the revenge cart to make it interesting but most people are pretty hopeless with them
Again though, laggy matches and revenge carts aside i thought the online was pretty fun for the most part.
I can't tell because the last boss always ends up 'getting lucky' with it's random orbital bombardment and just so happens to create situations where it carpet bombs the entire platform I'm on with no safe area to stand on (I'm open to the idea that there is a safe area in there somewhere, but the camera angle and sheer number of incoming blast indicators cluttering the screen make it incredibly difficult to parse, and this is coming from someone who can usually find a safe spot when 3 people in power zone run through them unloading all their bombs as they go )
For the most part it ran pretty well, until I got matched against someone who was 'god class' and appeared to be pretty decent at the game. Sadly I wasn't able to enjoy feeling out how good they were as the connection in the matches we were both in weren't great and it lagged out at several critical moments, the worst being when they spammed a line of bombs at me I could've easily disrupted with punch if the game hadn't been hit with a massive lag spike as I moved to do so (the entire game halted for a good 3 seconds) and caused me to kick it instead :/ I normally enjoy fighting someone I consider potentially on my level or better than me (I honestly savour that sense of friendly rivalry) but whether I won or lost against them it felt hollow as I knew the lag had been an issue throughout the entire match, which is a shame.
I find the revenge carts in competitive a bit questionable as I spend a significant portion of matches with newer opponents having to demonstrate that they can't get me rather than actually fighting my opponents. Usually they get the message eventually and go chase someone else but I still get irked at wasting my time on it, especially on the occasions I've had to wait for the last minute of the match just to get rid of them. I wouldn't mind quite as much if anyone outside of the god class bomber I mentioned before had shown any aptitude for using the revenge cart to make it interesting but most people are pretty hopeless with them
Again though, laggy matches and revenge carts aside i thought the online was pretty fun for the most part.
Do you actually get more gems for expert? I thought I'd read it gave out about the same reward?
I can't tell because the last boss always ends up 'getting lucky' with it's random orbital bombardment and just so happens to create situations where it carpet bombs the entire platform I'm on with no safe area to stand on (I'm open to the idea that there is a safe area in there somewhere, but the camera angle and sheer number of incoming blast indicators cluttering the screen make it incredibly difficult to parse, and this is coming from someone who can usually find a safe spot when 3 people in power zone run through them unloading all their bombs as they go
)Do you actually get more gems for expert? I thought I'd read it gave out about the same reward? I can't tell because the last boss always ends up 'getting lucky' with it's random orbital bombardment and just so happens to create situations where it carpet bombs the entire platform I'm on with no safe area to stand on (I'm open to the idea that there is a safe area in there somewhere, but the camera angle and sheer number of incoming blast indicators cluttering the screen make it incredibly difficult to parse, and this is coming from someone who can usually find a safe spot when 3 people in power zone run through them unloading all their bombs as they go
Every area has a formula for your gem payout: lives remaining, items grabbed, and whether or not you used a continue, with higher multipliers on higher difficulties. So for the final boss the max you can get in Beginner is 590, Veteran is 1050, and Expert is 1340.
And yeah, that obnoxious carpet bomb attack in his second phase is what makes Expert annoying. Even if you don't get cheated by RNG that covers the entire area you're currently on, he can still spam it like four times in a row and make it near impossible to drop a bomb until he's done, so the extra time you waste trying not to die is ultimately only worth about 300 more gems. Meanwhile Veteran and Beginner take a few minutes each if you use Plasma Bomber's quick bombs, so Veteran is the best value proposition.
The cooldown on the carts is just so that you can make chains. It's part of ranked, deal with it.
That attitude of yours will come back and bite you in the ass.
What are BP? Is that different to the currency used for unlocks? I don't​ have the game yet, but it sounds really off-putting if there's currency/points you can lose when playing.
Battle Points, your online ranking. It's like most competitive online games where you gain points for winning and lose points for losing. The higher your rank the more gems (currency) you get when you win matches. Honestly unless you want to play with friends there's no reason not to play League Battle because you don't get any currency in Free Battle. Better to get your 20 G pittance for losing than nothing at all.
edit: also you know you've got a good multiplayer game when i'm constantly switching between raging at how these idiots in the carts need to GET OFF MY BACK and then cackling like a maniac when my own revenge cart bomb lands in the middle of a fray and kills everyone completely by accident, making me the sole winner
You have done a good thing.
To Far Away Times
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I caved in an bought it, it seems like the patch addressed all the issues and I haven't bought a Bomberman game in 10+ years.
Thanks for the info. I'm so torn on whether to pick this up or not. I'm not very competitive and not particularly good at any game, so one of my fears is that I would just find this frustrating losing all the time and actually being penalised for it.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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It's not 60 but it plays fine and the visuals didn't take the beating the now super smooth multiplayer did.
Incitemaybe
Member
So when I create a room online there is always a 40 sec. countdown and it's not enough time to get people in the room let alone 8 players. Is there a way to prolong or turn this countdown off?
blitz64
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Incitemaybe
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I just got 5 players. I'm making the games settings kinda quick-ish and so far we haven't had many laggy people join. I did set it to prefer players with faster connections in the settings, if that helps very much.
Also, anyone feel free to add me FC: 5831-8153-2523
Finished the first world and I'm really not digging the single player. Granted, I'm not very good at bomberman games in general, but killing those damn grasshopper guys and the first boss (in bomberman form, not the robot) was really tedious. This is on easy, by the way. Does it get any better? I'd like to earn some gems to unlock more stages.
Luckily for me, local multiplayer is really fun. I'm not good enough to do any damage online, but my girlfriend and I had a great time with it. Weak level computer bombers sure don't make many mistakes, though. I was surprised about how difficult it is to trap them.
Luckily for me, local multiplayer is really fun. I'm not good enough to do any damage online, but my girlfriend and I had a great time with it. Weak level computer bombers sure don't make many mistakes, though. I was surprised about how difficult it is to trap them.
BizzyBum
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Yo, the online in this game is brutal in a sense that it's super unforgiving.
Played 3 matches. First was laggy as shit and ended up getting disconnected which makes you lose league points. OK. Second match I come in last in another laggy mess and lose more points. Third match I 1v1 some champion tier player and beat him 2-0 and I only get like 100 points. lol
Definitely only matching green bar connections from now on.
Played 3 matches. First was laggy as shit and ended up getting disconnected which makes you lose league points. OK. Second match I come in last in another laggy mess and lose more points. Third match I 1v1 some champion tier player and beat him 2-0 and I only get like 100 points. lol
Definitely only matching green bar connections from now on.
Dead Man Typing
Member
The online is pretty cool.
I actually like how brutal the points system is. -70 for not scoring is pretty rough.
Lag has caused me to lose a few rounds but in general I'm having a good time with the game.
I haven't started the campaign yet as I'm waiting to play it in coop.
I've got the game on loan from a friend so I'll have to decide if I want to buy it for myself in about a week.
I actually like how brutal the points system is. -70 for not scoring is pretty rough.
Lag has caused me to lose a few rounds but in general I'm having a good time with the game.
I haven't started the campaign yet as I'm waiting to play it in coop.
I've got the game on loan from a friend so I'll have to decide if I want to buy it for myself in about a week.
Martin5000
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On release I only finished the first single player world.
Didn't had much fun and only played local multiplayer with friends.
But after the update I finished the single player and had so much fun!
I think now the game is also worth for the single player! And that ending theme was nice
Didn't had much fun and only played local multiplayer with friends.
But after the update I finished the single player and had so much fun!
I think now the game is also worth for the single player! And that ending theme was nice
I did not expect vocals
Geminosity
Member
Ah, good to know :3
Sounds like Plasma Bomber might be a worthwhile investment then, just to speed up the grind XD
Been dealing with them fine since Super Bomberman 3
I just find them a bit boring to deal with unless the person in the cart is particularly good/devious with it (which is no easy task). If someone can actually threaten me with it then it's actually an interesting addition but without the ability to vary your throw strength or speed the cart up like in some of the previous entries they're more of a minor obstacle most of the time that are best dealt with by boring them into chasing someone else due to the limitations making their usage fairly limited/predictable. I'm not blaming people for not being amazing with them, for the most part I'd actually put it down more to the way the carts work this time around :3
At the lower difficulties you can kill the frogs easier/faster by putting a bomb on the spot they'll land on. If they end up on your bomb it'll explode immediately, killing them
Unless the difficulty tweaks toned down their speed, being able to do this on the higher difficulties is a bit more taxing due to the speed increase they get.
As for the single player in general, I don't feel it's one of the stronger ones in the series sadly. I love the cartoon interludes and whatnot but for whatever reason the actual levels don't grab me much, though admittedly the extra missions types don't help (respawning enemies isn't fun, the survival missions are pretty dull and the rescue missions are painful at best :s )
Not sure if it'll work on the computer but if you're against another player that doesn't have punch or kick you can often kill them by just running through them while spamming bombs, trapping them in the line. Just be wary of people who are wise to this tactic countering it by dropping their own bombs to try and block you from moving past them
Might be worth giving it a go against a weak level cpu? :3CaptainTiptop
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Just wish they'd make it possible to earn the in-game currency in local multiplayer.
It's my hope that they'll patch this in eventually.
Apologies if this is a stupid question, but there's some misinformation out there: is there a difference in the max. number of players on a single switch if the switch is in tabletop mode? Or is it still 8?
Also, if I link up three switches can I play with five players (2-2-1 per switch)?
Also, if I link up three switches can I play with five players (2-2-1 per switch)?
jimjonjimmy
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You can play 8 player in any switch configuration. As for the multiple switch's I'm not sure how that's done. I think you can link up multiple switch's in the way you are asking.
Lé Blade Runner
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Added the people from this page to my friend's list.
My FC is: SW-1992-7925-5001, and my username is Arthe.
Feel free to add me - I need people to play ( and suck at ) Bomberman with.
My FC is: SW-1992-7925-5001, and my username is Arthe.
Feel free to add me - I need people to play ( and suck at ) Bomberman with.
The grasshoppers are pitifully easy on beginner. Just place a bomb where they will land.
Wired All Wrong
Member
I'll join you in a few minutes. Are you setting up a friends only room or one with a number?
ViolentP
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Friends.
Heh. Yeah I've done that and killed myself waaaaaaaaay too many times to count.
At the lower difficulties you can kill the frogs easier/faster by putting a bomb on the spot they'll land on. If they end up on your bomb it'll explode immediately, killing them
Unless the difficulty tweaks toned down their speed, being able to do this on the higher difficulties is a bit more taxing due to the speed increase they get.
As for the single player in general, I don't feel it's one of the stronger ones in the series sadly. I love the cartoon interludes and whatnot but for whatever reason the actual levels don't grab me much, though admittedly the extra missions types don't help (respawning enemies isn't fun, the survival missions are pretty dull and the rescue missions are painful at best :s )
Not sure if it'll work on the computer but if you're against another player that doesn't have punch or kick you can often kill them by just running through them while spamming bombs, trapping them in the line. Just be wary of people who are wise to this tactic countering it by dropping their own bombs to try and block you from moving past them
Cool, thanks for the tips. Yeah the respawning enemies are really annoying as well.
I'm going to keep plowing ahead to see if I can make it to the final world, so I can farm for gems. I really just want more maps for when friends come over.. kinda annoyed that I have to spend all this time unlocking them.
Geminosity
Member
No worries. I'm kind of in the same boat to some degree: Not loving the single player but I want those multiplayer levels.
I might just play ranked a bit more because while it's less efficient even when you win all the time, I find it a lot more enjoyable at least :3
Only unlocks I'm aware of are:
* complete story mode on any difficulty = unlock dastardly bombers in shop
* get 3 stars on each world in one difficulty (e.g. 3 star every world on novice) = unlock pretty bomber in shop
If there's anything beyond that I've not seen it mentioned anywhere
BizzyBum
Member
Only unlocks I'm aware of are:
* complete story mode on any difficulty = unlock dastardly bombers in shop
* get 3 stars on each world in one difficulty (e.g. 3 star every world on novice) = unlock pretty bomber in shop
If there's anything beyond that I've not seen it mentioned anywhere
At least it can be done on beginner, trying to 3 star every world on expert would not have been fun.
Not a fan of how grindy the shop unlocks are to begin with.