tiggerkiddo
Member
Did you do the artwork? Was thinking of getting some Persona 4 artwork for my PS3 SCV stick...
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Super "NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread" II TURBO
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Finally got around to modding some buttons and art work on my SCV TE
Wait, wait wha? Your case... smoked grey for the two sides?
SUPARSTARX
Member
Yeah, did the background. The rest is just from the sprites that Dustloop ripped and just adding in some sharp shadows like how they do it in the game.
I didn't change the sides yet, they're still clear blue and red. I am thinking of buying the wooden sides from Focusattack and making them black or dark grey. I left the edge bezel cuz it's kinda cool looking to compliment the stick overall.
Tek-innovations.com sells a top load conversion kit and custom cut plexi & art services.
TricksterLoki
Member
Bah Much better then mine. But it gives me something to work upto!
SUPARSTARX
Member
I originally had a much messier design hahaha then I just scrapped everything and started off from scratch.
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Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
Beautiful, you even nailed down the best character in the game.Finally got around to modding some buttons and art work on my SCV TE
Last week, I posted this:
Today I'm posting this:
It's done. My very own first custom arcade stick. All that remains of the MadCatz SE stick it used to be is the case and most of the internal wires. The rest is new.
The buttons and stick are Siemitsu, the PCB is a PS3/PC Cthulhu, and I made the fractal design for the art myself.
Before you point it out, yes, I know the art is not cut cleanly, I'll have to do better with that next time, but overall, I'm happy with it. It's not half-bad for a first effort, if I do say so myself. I've learned a lot of things for if I have to do something like this again, like how not to use a cutting knife, and how to remove insulation from wires the right way. I can't say the build went smoothly, frankly it put up a fight. But that's to be expected, it's a fightstick, after all.
So thanks to everyone who helped me, it's much appreciated. And a special thanks to MarkMan and MadCatz for making a basic stick like the SE. There's not much left of the original now, but I'm happy I bought it anyway. I both had a lot of fun with the stock stick and learned a lot about modding from customizing it.
And frankly, I had no clue on what to do about it. I asked a few questions, got a few answers, although not always the answer I had hoped, but...
Today I'm posting this:
It's done. My very own first custom arcade stick. All that remains of the MadCatz SE stick it used to be is the case and most of the internal wires. The rest is new.
The buttons and stick are Siemitsu, the PCB is a PS3/PC Cthulhu, and I made the fractal design for the art myself.
Before you point it out, yes, I know the art is not cut cleanly, I'll have to do better with that next time, but overall, I'm happy with it. It's not half-bad for a first effort, if I do say so myself. I've learned a lot of things for if I have to do something like this again, like how not to use a cutting knife, and how to remove insulation from wires the right way. I can't say the build went smoothly, frankly it put up a fight. But that's to be expected, it's a fightstick, after all.
So thanks to everyone who helped me, it's much appreciated. And a special thanks to MarkMan and MadCatz for making a basic stick like the SE. There's not much left of the original now, but I'm happy I bought it anyway. I both had a lot of fun with the stock stick and learned a lot about modding from customizing it.
Azure Phoenix
Member
Hey guys, I'm looking at getting a new arcade stick but I would like some advice. Basically I don't know anything about arcade sticks and I'm not very good at fighting games, but I'd like to get something new for P4A and TTT2 this year.
Currently I have a Tekken 6 wireless stick for the PS3 and a Hori EX2 for the 360, I'm not sure if either are considered to be any good but I personally don't like them at all - particularly the weird square feel of the sticks (for lack of better words) which isn't like the arcade cabinets I'm used to. Due to space issues I'd like to get rid of both and pick up a stick that can be used on both systems.
From a quick search I found something called a Qanba Q4 which works on PS3, 360 and PC, is this a decent stick at all or is there something else I should look at getting instead?
Currently I have a Tekken 6 wireless stick for the PS3 and a Hori EX2 for the 360, I'm not sure if either are considered to be any good but I personally don't like them at all - particularly the weird square feel of the sticks (for lack of better words) which isn't like the arcade cabinets I'm used to. Due to space issues I'd like to get rid of both and pick up a stick that can be used on both systems.
From a quick search I found something called a Qanba Q4 which works on PS3, 360 and PC, is this a decent stick at all or is there something else I should look at getting instead?
Qanba Q4 is a good stick, especially if you want something out of the box that works.
You could also pick up a 360 MadCatz SCV, VS, or Pro Stick and add a TEKitty or Cerberus board to make it dual system capable.
These are simple and solder-free solutions, but do require some work to implement.
To get rid of the "square feeling" of your EX2/T6 sticks, you would want to look into arcade quality Seimitsu(LS32/56) and Sanwa(JLF) joysticks and their available octagonal and round restrictors.
Those will give you a better feeling stick.
Start reading here and check around SRK Tech Talk forum for all you'll ever need to know.
StarCreator
Member
The Tekken 6 and EX2 use very sub-par quality parts, but I should point out square restrictors are standard on Japanese style levers, and IMO the best way to go - you have the best freedom of input (octagon and circle restrictors actually reduce the area you have to work with) while also providing very well-defined corners if you need them in a pinch.
It's amazing how many people don't realize the lever will actuate before reaching the edge of the restrictor, so there is no need to "ride the gate".
If you're looking for something that works on 360/PS3/PC out of the box, the Qanba (and the remarkably similar Eightarc) sticks all work well. Otherwise, if you would rather acquire a domestically-released stick and modify it to work on both 360 and PS3, the rule of thumb is to acquire the 360 version; there are many more means to make a 360 stick compatible with PS3 than the other way around.
thelastword
Banned
Is there a stick where the joystick in on the right instead of the left? I'm a right hander, I find that I'd rather control the stick with my right hand and push buttons with my left, is that weird or is there a product out there that caters to folk like me?
Other than that gimmicky, configurable abomination that is Nyko's Free Fighter, no recent joysticks have this by default. The good news is that this isn't hard to do if you get a custom top panel from Art's Hobbies, as all it requires is some unplugging and replugging of buttons and joystick cables.
I'm sure there are some more legitimate answers to this question, but the Nyko Free Fighter fits the bill...
thelastword
Banned
Ok , I just googled that and realize that you can simply detach and reattach the joystick to the side that you want, that's a pretty swell design concept and pretty much solves the issue, too bad the product is not of a high standard as you said.
On the flipside, I just bought this;
and I'm trying to learn stick for the first time, so perhaps my left hand muscles have just not gotten used to it yet. I see an option for cross icey, left joystick and right joystick. Is there any advantage for changing this to any one in particular? Which configuration is better for fighters in general?
Ok , I just googled that and realize that you can simply detach and reattach the joystick to the side that you want, that's a pretty swell design concept and pretty much solves the issue, too bad the product is not of a high standard as you said.
On the flipside, I just bought this and I'm trying to learn stick for the first time, so perhaps my left hand muscles have just not gotten used to it yet. I see an option for cross icey, left joystick and right joystick. Is there any advantage for changing this to any one in particular? Which configuration is better for fighters in general?
That just selects which part of the controller you're having the joystick emulate - Left analog, right analog, or d-pad. Best to set it to d-pad/cross-key unless that doesn't work for some reason.
thelastword
Banned
Ok thanks, I think it does work though, it's on cross icey at default and I've been trying out a bevy of fighters with it, they all seem to respond accordingly despite the odd new qwirks and feel of learning stick. I've tried changing it on this stick, but to me there's no indicator when it changes the joystick positioning, oh well, I'll play with it a bit more to find out.
Yes, I googled it and saw some pics earlier, it is a perfect solution, I'm just questioning the quality of the product at this point.Auskeek said:
What is this Chie stick you speak of? Is it related to the question I posed?Snakeyes said:
thelastword
Banned
Ok, that looks interesting, do you have any info on the quality? On the page you linked it does say, 360, PS3 and PC, so it seems to be cross compatible.
mikespit1200
Member
Are there any import shops in the SF/Bay Area to get Sanwa parts?
MarkMan
loves Arcade Sticks
Glad you're happy with it!
eightarc is located in SF. Might want to hit them up about parts.
Phoenix Fang
Banned
I'm looking to buy an arcade stick for the 360 mainly for shmups, old school platforms and beat em ups. Any recommendations? I've tried the Hori EX-SE but I didn't like the button placement.
Some goodies from Japan... mostly arcade sticks...
What's that small Hori in the front?
Amiami still hasn't gotten back to me about the Exaprize. Kind of frustrating. Any other options for small-ish PS3 sticks that are in stock anywhere?
So .. i'm planning to make my own arcade .... with a PC inside and possibility to link other stuff.
So .. I have some things to ask for the people here.
1) Wich is the best cheap Arcade stick I can find for pc ?
There are some 15 dollars ones on Deal Extreme ... but i'm kinda afraid of then xD
2) For a pc/game related arcade stick, would be better to get an arcade stick with USB or something like PS2 and get some adapters ?
I already have a PS2/wii adapter...
3) Is there any good place where I can find some projects to help me make the wood part of the arcade ?
I kinda want it to look like an old school one ...
So .. I have some things to ask for the people here.
1) Wich is the best cheap Arcade stick I can find for pc ?
There are some 15 dollars ones on Deal Extreme ... but i'm kinda afraid of then xD
2) For a pc/game related arcade stick, would be better to get an arcade stick with USB or something like PS2 and get some adapters ?
I already have a PS2/wii adapter...
3) Is there any good place where I can find some projects to help me make the wood part of the arcade ?
I kinda want it to look like an old school one ...
Oh, snap. What's up, Tech.
Azure Phoenix
Member
As I said I'm very bad at fighting games, not much beyond the level of button mashers to be honest, but I enjoy playing them and prefer an arcade stick. There is no way I'll ever learn to use one with any kind of precision, however, and since I play the old TMNT arcade game a lot the square stick feels odd and annoying.
According to the specifications list of the Qanba it says there is a "JLF-TP-8YT-SK" stick inside (whatever that is). Would that need an octagonal or round restrictor fitting or is it good to go out of the box?
Anyway thanks to both of you for the help, I think I'll try and sell those sticks cheap and put the funds towards a Qanba stick.
Keep using what you have, when you decide to upgrade, you'll like and feel the stick more.
All common sticks have square gates already - it's the users preference to drop in a octogate.
Useful link for arcade stick info for everyone:
http://www.slagcoin.com/joystick/introduction.html
So, it has a Sanwa "JLF" which is probably the most common lever in console joysticks today. It comes stock with a square gate, but both round and octagonal restrictor gates are available for it.
And since they're cheap and easy to swap in, you might consider buying both and seeing which one gives you the feel you want. That is what I did when I was starting out.
I know you said you're not great at fighting games and probably don't plan on being competitive or anything like that, but when I was starting out with arcade sticks, I stuck with the square gate despite having some reservations and wanting to get an octagonal gate since I was more used to American style sticks.
Eventually once I got used to it, I realized that some stuff like charge characters in fighting games were actually really easy to use compared to an octagonal or circle gate, and are actually pretty fun. They are also the standard on most sticks so you don't have to worry about adjusting if you borrow someone's stick. I highly suggest sticking with it if you get a Qanba and then get an octagonal gate or circle gate a month or so later if you really don't like it. It's a preference thing, absolutely, but I highly suggest giving the square gate a chance.
mikespit1200
Member
I've had my Mad Katz SF4 SE stick for a while now. Haven't used it much until I got SSF4 Arcade Edition on steam and since then I've put in about 9 hours. Just recently though I've begun having trouble executing super moves and I'm wondering if its because I've worn out the stock sticks. I replaced the buttons with sanwas so those should be ok. Do the stock sticks on the SE sticks really wear out that quick or is it just my imagination?
Anybody in the Belgium/Antwerpen area, heads up, the shop below has a very good condition Namco PS1 CIB stick on the shelf for 29. I took it out of the package...just some minor markings on the bottom:
http://www.gamebunker.be/2012/01/shop-presence-in-antwerpen/
http://www.gamebunker.be/2012/01/shop-presence-in-antwerpen/
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-zl-49-en-70-3dn0.html
$29, wao.
Also markman or someone with 200 sticks give me an exaprice sanwa ps3 onegai.
$29, wao.
Also markman or someone with 200 sticks give me an exaprice sanwa ps3 onegai.
TricksterLoki
Member
Yet another shot at Persona 4 artwork :/
I need to fix the rough edges by the control panel but considering I had next to none of the proper tools to do a good job I think it turned out well.
I wish I had 10 bucks to print my design *tear*
TricksterLoki
Member
I still have yet to get mine xD I need to go pick up a Amazon gift card or something...
I just switched jobs so I was without a paycheck for 2 week so I got by with a Flathead, Philips head, scissors, a pocket knife and a pizza box. I would not recommend this at all.
These are so cool. Mustn't... buy... another... stick...
we.are.the.armada
Member
Finally got around to modding some buttons and art work on my SCV TE
You really area a superstar! DAT CHIE. That is beautiful.
Ok, I need to do something like this... I bet it gives you 5% health.
StarCreator
Member
I'm having a hard time figuring out how the pizza box fits in with the rest of the items in your list.