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TCL P607 P Series ( the new mid range/budget 4k/HDR recommendation)
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Outtrigger888
Member
This has more to do with Netflix, I've watched 3 Dolby Vision movies on VUDU and they look incredible. While everything I've watched on Netflix looks like trash.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Yup this is what I've read as well. Doesn't sound like a tv issue. Seems to vary by content as well.
I've seen these shows recommended:
Meridian, Chef's Table, and season 2 of Daredevil
Oh that's goof to hear sucks for my Netflix stuff but I was concerned I was gonna be disappointed with TV in general on DV. Going to try a vudu DV soon.
HDR on Amazon LeMans show looks amazing but the episodic shows look flat imo.
Hoping games in HDR are not crushed
Edit.. yea Meridian looked pretty good but was brighter and looked better on YouTube than on Netflix which again was too dark
Outtrigger888
Member
Ya meridian looked great on YouTube and darker on Netflix. Vudu UHD cost 10$ to rent which is expensive. I purchased guardians of the galaxy 2 yesterday for 25$ on vudu and its the most impressive UHD movie I've watched. Kong skull island also was great.
Certain games are better than others. Turning on HDR in infamous produces some crushed blacks for example. I don't think it's a problem with any set since I've read complaints from people on other TV sets.
Outtrigger888
Member
Horizons HDR is implemented great, while the last guardian I thought I was gonna go blind when I stepped outside. HDR is a new thing and will take a bit for developers to grasp it and make it effective.
Yeah outside of Resogun, Horizon has one of the best implementations of HDR. I heard Forza Horizon 3 is also really good, so I can't wait for the 1X to come out to try that. Shame MS never added HDR to the PC version.
HDR on the PC is weird anyways. I thought you had to have the HDR switch turned on in the display settings but both RE7 and Shadow Warrior 2 display HDR just fine without the toggle switch turned on. I can't get HDR to work right in Mass Effect Andromeda to save my life.
Sugarmonkey
Member
GUYS. I've had this tv for about 2 weeks and have been super happy with HDR content on my slim and through the tv app streaming. I just traded in my slim for a Pro and oh.my.god. Horizon Zero Dawn looks so fucking good it's blowing my mind. So happy I got this TV. 600+280 for the slim trade in for 4K HDR comfy couch content? Amazing.
fierce1289
Member
For the life of me I can't get my PS4Pro to output on HDMI 2.0, I can get 4k display on 1.4 but that's it. Losing my mind trying to figure it out! Really want to experience Horizon in HDR. Any tips? I've tried playing with the settings all night.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Set the hdmi input on the tv to 2.0 and everything else on the PS4 settings to auto. Doesn't horizon also have a hdr toggle in game?
thatJohann
Member
are you guys setting up the PS4 Pro with every display setting in Auto in RGB Range etc? what about the TV? what settings do I need to fiddle with to ensure True HDR 10 and 4K etc.
fierce1289
Member
Once I set the TV to HDMI 2.0 the screen image on the PS4 Pro disappears, no image will show and the tv says no input until I switch it back to HDMI 1.4. I've tried with HDCP on and off, all settings to automatic, and also set it to 4K YUV setting. PS4 won't let me select the option to set HDR on.
RedAssedApe
Banned
is it updated to the latest firmware?
fierce1289
Member
PS4Pro is updated to 4.73 firmware and the TV updated when I hooked it up tonight but I'm not sure if it's the latest firmware or what is the latest firmware.
RedAssedApe
Banned
just meant the ps4 pro itself. everything sounds fine. assuming you used the hdmi cable that came with the pro? try the other hdmi ports?
fierce1289
Member
It's not the HDMI cable that came with the Pro but one that I bought off the Amazon rated for this sort of thing. Maybe the cable is poor.
DirtyLarry
Member
Sounds like you may need a new HDMI Cable. I never shared this part of my setup story as it did not seem terribly relevant (and it was partially my fault), but when I first set everything up, neither my One S or PS4 were displaying on the TV. I thought I had a faulty receiver even though it supports everything. Thought I even got a bum TV. After about an hour of almost losing my shit I did some real Googling and I found a thread on AVS forums and one person who had the same exact issues as me said ultimately he had to use a new cable. Lo and behold I swapped out the cable for a new one (I happened to have some leftover from an Amazon order) and they both worked right away and I have been enjoying HDR ever since. If you have one laying around and have not tried it, you have nothing to lose. But for me, it was as simple as a new cable fixed the issue.
In other news and the reason I came to the thread, just got off the phone with their support and I immediately followed the call up with an email with my Case # and 3 images of the TV as they requested, all showing the dead pixel. I was told it would take anywhere from 7-10 business days to hear a response, but hopefully I hear back sooner. Fingers crossed and wish me luck.
Outtrigger888
Member
Sounds like a HDMI cable issue, use the one that came with the pro
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I'm curious why you're coming to a thread devoted to a $600 TV asking about $3000+ TV. I doubt anyone posting/reading in this thread would have ever considered the A1E as an option.
Having said that, according to the reviews A1E is the cream of the crop as far as Sony OLEDs go, but the LG C7 is rated better on rtings.com
If you can afford it, I see no reason to not get the A1E or LG C7.
I would without hesitation if I had the dollars.
fierce1289
Member
I'm not sure if I have the one that came with the Pro anymore. I have at least 4 different HDMI cables laying around I can try with and do some testing.
Thanks everyone for the help! Going to try again tonight after work.
DirtyLarry
Member
Welp, looks like I am not getting a replacement from TCL.
I am more than likely just going to live with it. I will explore what it means to get a new one from Best Buy, but if it means I need to return it myself, it is a no go on my end. For starters I do not have a car big enough myself to return it. Also if I have to go through Best Buy it is not guaranteed I will get a better replacement, in fact it could be worse, and then I am just possibly in this neverending cycle of trying to get a good set.
Well that sucks.
I am more than likely just going to live with it. I will explore what it means to get a new one from Best Buy, but if it means I need to return it myself, it is a no go on my end. For starters I do not have a car big enough myself to return it. Also if I have to go through Best Buy it is not guaranteed I will get a better replacement, in fact it could be worse, and then I am just possibly in this neverending cycle of trying to get a good set.
Well that sucks.
Welp, looks like I am not getting a replacement from TCL.
I am more than likely just going to live with it. I will explore what it means to get a new one from Best Buy, but if it means I need to return it myself, it is a no go on my end. For starters I do not have a car big enough myself to return it. Also if I have to go through Best Buy it is not guaranteed I will get a better replacement, in fact it could be worse, and then I am just possibly in this neverending cycle of trying to get a good set.
Well that sucks.
Are you crazy, bring the tv back and get a replacement. I couldn't live with a dead pixel.
Take a cab if you have too.
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
I'm seriously considering buying this TV. I've been doing a lot of research on a 4K upgrade for my 40'' Samsung 1080p TV and this seems to be a great value. I was eyeballing the Sony 49'' X900E but I didn't really want to spend $1200 on it.
I'll swing by Best Buy tonight and look at the display model. If I'm happy with what I see then I may grab it.
I'll swing by Best Buy tonight and look at the display model. If I'm happy with what I see then I may grab it.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Welp, looks like I am not getting a replacement from TCL.
I am more than likely just going to live with it. I will explore what it means to get a new one from Best Buy, but if it means I need to return it myself, it is a no go on my end. For starters I do not have a car big enough myself to return it. Also if I have to go through Best Buy it is not guaranteed I will get a better replacement, in fact it could be worse, and then I am just possibly in this neverending cycle of trying to get a good set.
Well that sucks.
You really seriously have no means to return it? Do none of your friends have a truck? I find it hard to believe that it's that much of a hassle to repackage it and exchange it.
Cut the crap and find a way to exchange it.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Does this TV have a black level/RGB setting (i.e. limited/full)? I feel like the blacks might be getting crushed. Do those type of settings apple to both SDR and HDR?
Not quite sure if its just the HDR when streaming or what since I know people have complained about Netflix DV being too dark. Was watching Manchester by the Sea last night on Amazon Prime using HDR10 on Roku app and blacks were super black and it was hard to make out any shadow detail. Like the bar scene near the beginning was more like he was in a club than a bar. SDR version on the PS4 app didn't have those issues albeit that thing is only 1080p/SDR.
Wait...how'd you get it home in the first place if you didn't have a car that fit? Was it a bb.com home delivery order? If so, if you call them for an exchange they'll send over someone to do the pickup and swap for you. Not sure if they offer that for items purchased in a B&M store but wouldn't hurt to ask either. I mean a Geek Squad truck would probably be able to do something like that?
Not quite sure if its just the HDR when streaming or what since I know people have complained about Netflix DV being too dark. Was watching Manchester by the Sea last night on Amazon Prime using HDR10 on Roku app and blacks were super black and it was hard to make out any shadow detail. Like the bar scene near the beginning was more like he was in a club than a bar. SDR version on the PS4 app didn't have those issues albeit that thing is only 1080p/SDR.
Welp, looks like I am not getting a replacement from TCL.
I am more than likely just going to live with it. I will explore what it means to get a new one from Best Buy, but if it means I need to return it myself, it is a no go on my end. For starters I do not have a car big enough myself to return it. Also if I have to go through Best Buy it is not guaranteed I will get a better replacement, in fact it could be worse, and then I am just possibly in this neverending cycle of trying to get a good set.
Well that sucks.
Wait...how'd you get it home in the first place if you didn't have a car that fit? Was it a bb.com home delivery order? If so, if you call them for an exchange they'll send over someone to do the pickup and swap for you. Not sure if they offer that for items purchased in a B&M store but wouldn't hurt to ask either. I mean a Geek Squad truck would probably be able to do something like that?
lifetimeofnot
Member
Welp, looks like I am not getting a replacement from TCL.
I am more than likely just going to live with it. I will explore what it means to get a new one from Best Buy, but if it means I need to return it myself, it is a no go on my end. For starters I do not have a car big enough myself to return it. Also if I have to go through Best Buy it is not guaranteed I will get a better replacement, in fact it could be worse, and then I am just possibly in this neverending cycle of trying to get a good set.
Well that sucks.
Just call best buy dude. It's not hard. they will offer you a replacement no questions asked. If for some reason they do ask tell them the screen randomly turns off or something. But really they won't ask until they are picking up your old tv. Then tell them you need it delivered and they will schedule a delivery for you.
Outtrigger888
Member
My bestbuy had no content running on the TCL when I stopped by my bestbuy. Just some demo mode that displayed the stuff the TV offers. They also had it way up high, it wasn't a good display for the TV.
mikespit1200
Member
Welp, looks like I am not getting a replacement from TCL.
I am more than likely just going to live with it. I will explore what it means to get a new one from Best Buy, but if it means I need to return it myself, it is a no go on my end. For starters I do not have a car big enough myself to return it. Also if I have to go through Best Buy it is not guaranteed I will get a better replacement, in fact it could be worse, and then I am just possibly in this neverending cycle of trying to get a good set.
Well that sucks.
Have you tried massaging the dead pixel away with your finger? I've been able to get rid of dead pixels on a few LCDs with this method.
RedAssedApe
Banned
lifetimeofnot
Member
Ok thanks. So, you could program inputs to specific buttons on a Logitech Harmony IR remote? That's what I would want to do.
So seeing as how rtings still hasn't changed the input lag in the review, you guys think it's safe to say the lag isn't effected by the last update?
My best buy didn't even hold them in the store. You had to order them and wait a few days for pickup.
My best buy didn't even hold them in the store. You had to order them and wait a few days for pickup.
fierce1289
Member
First different HDMI cable I tried worked! The cable I was using is only 3 weeks old from Amazon too. Definitely returning it back to them now. Thanks for the help everyone!
lifetimeofnot
Member
Good to see this thread is still helping people, now go play horizon!
Red-Town
Member
Sorry, didn't know where else to ask. Just curious as I was thinking of getting the TCL but I read people complaining about the viewing angle.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Check out this thread its pretty much an oled thread
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1323499
Violence Jack
Member
Watched some NFL preseason on this TV, and it made me slightly disoriented. I also noticed some bleeding no matter what setting I tried.
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
So I decided to grab the TV today at Best Buy. After testing with the PS4 Pro, I'm extremely happy with the picture quality. Horizon looks nuts in 4K HDR.
Here's my problem. Each corner of the TV has a good amount of light bleed. I fiddled with the settings and couldn't really correct it. I was playing Hellblade and the light bleed is pretty distracting. Any way to help this or is it just a result of the type of screen it has?
Here's my problem. Each corner of the TV has a good amount of light bleed. I fiddled with the settings and couldn't really correct it. I was playing Hellblade and the light bleed is pretty distracting. Any way to help this or is it just a result of the type of screen it has?
Ninja Scooter
Member
Welp, looks like I am not getting a replacement from TCL.
I am more than likely just going to live with it. I will explore what it means to get a new one from Best Buy, but if it means I need to return it myself, it is a no go on my end. For starters I do not have a car big enough myself to return it. Also if I have to go through Best Buy it is not guaranteed I will get a better replacement, in fact it could be worse, and then I am just possibly in this neverending cycle of trying to get a good set.
Well that sucks.
Get an Uber to take you and the TV to Best Buy
I used rtings suggested settings for HDR and mostly did the same for SDR. Only thing I changed was moving the colors down from 50 to 45 because they looked too saturated at the default setting. Turned off noise reduction, left gamma at 2.2, and didn't mess with any of the color or white balance yet in the advanced options on the Roku app.
Do you have local dimming on?
Red-Town
Member
Check out this thread its pretty much an oled thread
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1323499
Thank you kind sir
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
I had Game Mode enabled. Isn't local dimming auto disabled in Game Mode?
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
If you can afford an A1E then by all means get that.
It's just odd seeing someone stuck between buying a $600 TV and a $2000+ TV.
An OLED TV is the ultimate in quality, BUT I am hesitant to believe it will ever go down significantly in cost as the cost advantages in LED are great.
Plus I have read (no links ATM) about other TV technologies being developed that offer near OLED picture quality at much less cost.
That's one of the reasons I bought this TV is because I know it will tide me over until I can afford a more premium TV.
thoseAREmySHOES
Member
Not after the most recent firmware update.
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
I'll have to play around with it some more when I get home. So local dimming will definitely cause this? I love the TV so far but the light bleed is definitely an issue for me right now. It took me out of the experience a bit while playing Hellblade.
recklesscognition
Member
Q42017. Curious how much it will cost. I'd like a new set ready for D2, might just go with the 55".