I'm just marveling a bit at the characters. I mean, yeah, protagonst is a white guy in his 30s... but he's such a baller looking white guy in his 30s.
And then the other three:
It's just great, naturalistic character design with really cool, regal uniforms.
Thread reacting. What a joy it is.
Someone ask the owner of Ready At Dawn where all the minorities are at...
Blackbeard was known for running around with a half a dozen of pistols, but to be fair, he wasn't planning on jumping from rooftop to rooftop.
Did you read my response to you? I was hoping you'd respond. I definitely never told you to shut up and accept what you're presented, I made a case against tokenism.
WTF? AC's assassin design is iconic.Well, they are historically accurate. Why include minorities in this game? Lol...
Disclaimer: I am a minority irl.
The designs look nice. I don't see the Assassins Creed comparisons at all but to each their own.
Can't get more generic than this for sure:
Alternate costumers and all that...
That makes sense, then.
You know what else clashes with the setting? Guns that can't exist in 2014. The lengths you and others will go to justify all the bullshit in this game yet at the same time justify excluding non-white characters because of historical accuracy are pretty amazing.
There's no reason why it couldn't fit the logic of a game that is so willing to be ahistorical with its basic premise. And who said or suggested anything about throwing characters in for the sake of having them in the game? Nowhere did I say that the game had to have non-white characters, I was speaking against the belief that it is somehow fine to have any other fantastical and ahistorical element in the game but it is an unbelievable stretch to include non-white protagonists in a city that had non-whites living in it at the time in which the game is set. There is no reason why they couldn't include a non-white character and justify their inclusion in the game any more than they could include futuristic weapons and monsters that have never existed.
No, it wouldn't at all.
The number of magic potions allowing those characters to live for hundreds of years was 0, yet there wasn't a problem including that in the game's lore. You mean to tell me they can do that but saying that a Moor, Asian, or whatever couldn't have joined The Order without everything falling apart?
Like I said earlier, it's a shame that you can look at a story with so much made-up nonsense in it but the possibility of one or two non-white characters is somehow the one thing that would mess that up. Do you understand how crazy that sounds? They have werewolves and magical fountain of youth potions but man, there is no possible way that in their fictional world with no limits but their own imagination that there could've been a non-white character who was a part of the aristocracy.
same here.
A non white character in the aristocracy would change the entire nature of the aristocracy. It would mean people (especially the disadvantaged) could somehow become parts of it. That ruins the entire purpose of the class conflict.
If a movie like Belle could be made without Hollywood collapsing, then this game and it's ridiculous premise would be fine.
That's not even close to being true. My argument is that you can't throw out history for everything else, then complain that having a non-white character wouldn't fit because it's a historical.
Why does it have to "make sense" to have a non-white character but white characters can be all over the world, in any time period, with no issue? For one, if we held non-white characters to the same standard as white ones, then there would be very few white characters in games. Secondly, this is fantasy. None of this is real and the only limitation is imagination.
If there was a movie about civil rights in the US where the antagonist ended up being cthulu, then I would let some a discrepancy or two slide since the creators obviously aren't making a documentary. Whether you want to accept it or not, this is a completely made up world. The premise of this game is a fantasy, the characters are fantastical, and the antagonists never existed. Just because there's Victorian England set-dressing, that doesn't make it something grounded in reality.
They aren't beholden to any real sense of history and, like I've said over and over again, there is absolutely nothing stopping them from making a justification for why one of the characters isn't white other than their lack of imagination. But like I said before, I'm not necessarily talking about this game needing to have non-white protagonists, I'm speaking against the arguments that you and others are making (and constantly make when diversity is brought up) when the lack of diversity was mentioned. In a game where the developers are willing to bend physics and historical fact, nothing can stop them from making an allowance for a character not being white and it is absolutely amazing that someone who claims to be a champion for diversity in games can't see that.
The attention to detail is absolutely staggering. The way the chair continues to spin correctly when shoved by the Half Breed, the way Galahad quickly checks over his shoulder to make sure hes not going to run into something, the shadows .... just ridiculous attention to detail.
It has to make sense because their entire goal is to create a cohesive setting. In order to have a compelling story, it needs to be internally consistent. And you're putting words in my mouth. White people being all over the world in all time periods is an issue. If i made a game in ancient Africa, I sure as shit wouldn't add an Asian shaman for diversity because it wouldn't make sense and would be a distraction. This is white people being the aristocracy in England. They are beholden to real history, because real history with a twist is their entire premise. Every time they talk about the setting, they stress historical accuracy in politics and the city itself. Adding a minority would actually be a creative compromise. It would require an explanation that alters the nature of their setting. It is objectively not a completely made up world. London exists. The Victorian era existed. Tesla existed. They are very much not throwing out history for everything else. You're ignoring the entire purpose of the game. Why not direct this energy at games where there isn't a very clear and realistic reason for the lack of diversity? Like Call of Duty, which does not feature a black protagonist our primary characters where they obviously should because the military is full of black people? You chose one of the few games where it actually makes a lot of sense to have an all white cast. Where having minorities would undermine the class conflict and setting.
Someone ask the owner of Ready At Dawn where all the minorities are at...
Was it the same demo in the alley where you drag the dude?
Isn't that obvious? You'd be telling a very different story if you had different characters. Ru has a story he wants to tell and it requires the characters he made for it.
That's the only demo until PSX.
Yeah I could see how it would be underwhelming. I think the main game will be much better because RAD are such great developers and they've got the assistance of SSM. I have faith.
yes. I really didn't like the gameplay of the demo though..
Whats all its got going for it? The character design?
