I can't even remember what the original footage looks like. It's common sense that it's all mock up footage anyways. If someone shows you footage of a game years from release and it's looking amazing you should know it's not real and a guesstimate as to what they are shooting for.
Not the problem. I know this, I'm here having other people tell me I'm revising history and that this game itself wasn't downgraded and ultimately to suck the next downgrade down. "
Hey that game you wanted never truly existed but it's alright because you knew this was happening, right?" PC version, Massive entertainmentblahblahblahblah.
1No games do not always look better from release compared to the initial reveal, especially when you see some of the stuff they have in mind before optimization happens.
2And wtf is this revisionist history? People have been waiting years to see how it looks?
3 Are you insinuating that Massive only showed the original demo and are just now showing the console build to the public instead of having multiple demos at pretty much every major trade show for the past three years? Also it's already been established,
4some areas of the game have more debris, some don't. It's a huge map. Not to mention the people coming out and commenting on how it looks better in person. And lifeless, the new footage today and last week showed more npc behavior than we saw in the reveals. I already posted a gif of the xb1 build with more clutter as well.
5 People are incredibly unspecific as to what constitutes a "downgrade" from a technical perspective. So let's actually go through what they promised visually:
-SSR-->check
-Seamless transitions between interiors and exteriors--->check
-Dynamic weather effects and day/night cycle--->check
-Cluttered environments-->
check, this area has more clutter than that original demo
m8
1 I feel like if you're never willing to concede that games, especially Ubisoft games don't get downgraded then sure it might feel this way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7nfIu4Jo0g
"Ubisoft downgrade" in Youtube, first result.
2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWJD8DMasCU&list=PLBnrd5k2F2INJFw2M5d6ZO3v2N8TbpZNC&index=16
1st video of The Division on Ubisoft's own Youtube page
July 10th 2013, featuring supposed gameplay that needed optimisation yet unsurprisingly
ran and looks better than anything of the game we've seen since <--- this is fucking important holy shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Om9DUSukY&list=PLBnrd5k2F2INJFw2M5d6ZO3v2N8TbpZNC&index=8
Next "gameplay video", posted
Jun 9th 2014 notice the HUD, echo's, graphics, shaders, interactivity, animations, etc that we won't recieve. Remember based on your position that games
do not get better looking from the initial reveal I should
KNOW a year on from the original video that we won't be getting this in the final game.
Subject to change. LOL.
A year on, we get this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bc2fv0jcgg&index=4&list=PLBnrd5k2F2INJFw2M5d6ZO3v2N8TbpZNC
the E3 2015 trailer which also comes with...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyTDWmi210A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns6mjwwFBmo
Honestly, if you don't see what I'm talking about here...
I'm not the problem. I've been on this site for years, I've heard people more emotional invested in this shit point out far more than I have, but if you can't see the difference in what you've been presented year on, year on - don't try to tell me that I can't, simple. Particularly since what we're discussing right now is how this footage, so close to release looks so you know, different from everything else we've seen up to this point. I couldn't be clearer, if you can't see it - it's on
you.
3 Why do you think we've only just come onto seeing this footage now? Honestly? I remember when alpha footage leaked it was "just alpha", then this footage was shown and it was just "720p compressed youtube", we get 1080p and it's "wait for the PC version", when that drops I can't wait to hear you and your ilk drop the oh-so-inevitable "well, even though it doesn't look as good as before it still looks great". Remember my issue isn't whether or not you're contented, happy with what you see - it's the perpetual practice of Ubisoft to present "concept renders" and all that shite as gameplay, go dark, plop out a game which is the equivalent of a cover band's rendition of a rock classic (hotel california) visually and have people like you tell me I'm wrong for noticing the myth of advertising even though we see it day in, day out.
Hope your aren't also disappointed when you don't get this after you order from the menu...
The game looks great. And I also think it is great to play. (played the shit out of the Alpha) But never trust what some companies are trying to sell at E3 and other events.
Why, why defend these people? Aren't you angry? "McDonald's clearly lies to you, so why do you care if Ubisoft has been doing it for years too?"
4 I could go in depth here but this more than anything just shows we're not on the same page. Do you know what I mean by
Mise-en-scene? It's clear if you look at the original Far Cry 4 footage and then look at the game people paid ££ for. I find the "looks better in person" comment quite pointless as every game looks better in person. Someone earlier posted something I wish was said earlier...
How on earth does "youtube" counter any discussion of a downgrade when people are comparing this youtube footage to earlier released youtube footage?
It's amazing. Like we haven't all been shackled to the internet since it's inception.
5 Outside of the quality of the lighting, the textures, the image quality, density of mise-en-scene (a key proponent of the cinematography/aesthetic - here reduced to mere rubble and trash), the animation, the echos, the construction of gameplay we've been shown which Jim Sterling himself has spoken on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRHYTzot8Po&index=30&list=PLlRceUcRZcK0E1Id3NHchFaxikvCvAVQe
Speaking on the illusion crafted by Ubisoft which includes, every facet I've spoken on.
Ultimately, I know I can never convince you. I don't intend to. I will not however let you spout your perspective as gospel.
Crossing Eden
Yves Guillemot's secret GAF account.
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yes or no question, has it in your opinion been dowgraded from the original footage we were shown in 2013?