• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

The Division Beta Thread: Make Manhattan Great Again

Status
Not open for further replies.
S

Silvard

Member
I think this game would be better served by having "heist" like missions with multiple steps and different roles a la GTA:O than raids like Destiny. The less similar to Destiny end game the better, in my opinion (from someone who has played all the Destiny end game that has been available to date).
 
C

Cabbagehead

Member
Blu10 said:
All I know is I hope they take the tallest building in the DZ and turn it into something where you have to fight up the floors which get ever harder, and every 5 or so you get the option to take some loot respective to that level and rope down to the bottom and extract it somewhere in the DZ, or you can continue up, where if you make it to the top you get 1 piece of best in slot gear, and can use the private rooftop extraction point to get your gear out, and are dropped off at the nearest safe house.

That would be my dream end game content.
Click to expand...

They have a lot of options given the area they built their game in. Underground or way up.

Would be great to get new environments to do battle in, like a skyscraper or another land mark. One of the big malls as well.

I think this game would be better served by having "heist" like missions
Click to expand...

How would that work in this setting?
 
S

Silvard

Member
Blu10 said:
All I know is I hope they take the tallest building in the DZ and turn it into something where you have to fight up the floors which get ever harder, and every 5 or so you get the option to take some loot respective to that level and rope down to the bottom and extract it somewhere in the DZ, or you can continue up, where if you make it to the top you get 1 piece of best in slot gear, and can use the private rooftop extraction point to get your gear out, and are dropped off at the nearest safe house.

That would be my dream end game content.
Click to expand...

Private extraction point? Seems against the entire DZ ethos.
 
C

Cabbagehead

Member
J_Viper said:
This is what I wanted as well, but going by the season pass descriptions, that doesn't seems to be the case.

They're actually wasting an expansion slot on horde mode.
Click to expand...

Those descriptions are pretty vague and we have no idea what they may in tell in context to the game.

Survival "mode" is not described as horde mode when i read it. Just that staying alive through survival methods will be push towards the forefront then before.

We'll see though.
 
K

Kyoufu

Member
I want to raid a giant building going from floor to floor.

Once the final floor is reached, one man awaits on his throne...

HJrxiSt.jpg
 
S

Silvard

Member
Cabbagehead said:
How would that work in this setting?
Click to expand...
Missions that require set up steps and coordination between different teams performing simultaneous but different tasks. Not (necessarily) about stealing or driving/piloting a vehicle, obviously, but a more elaborate and combat oriented version of everything else.
 
A

Archpath1

Member
Blu10 said:
All I know is I hope they take the tallest building in the DZ and turn it into something where you have to fight up the floors which get ever harder, and every 5 or so you get the option to take some loot respective to that level and rope down to the bottom and extract it somewhere in the DZ, or you can continue up, where if you make it to the top you get 1 piece of best in slot gear, and can use the private rooftop extraction point to get your gear out, and are dropped off at the nearest safe house.

That would be my dream end game content.
Click to expand...

So The Raid/Dredd the raid I'll take it
 
F

FullMetaltech

Member
Good Raid type spots would be the Manhattan mall and Javitz Center if they added them in. Im hoping me get some missions in thos areas as well.
 
S

Silvard

Member
To be honest based on what we know I couldn't in good conscience recommend this game to someone with no interest at all in the DZ. There's no indication so far that there will be anything more to the end game on the PvE side outside of doing hard mode missions in a group.
 
C

CamoKitty

Member
Kyoufu said:
Yes and yes. Just imagine going through every floor, each with its own unique enemy layout and boss.
Click to expand...

It would definitely be a blast, but they would really need to put some real thought into how the tower operates as to keep it from becoming stale.
 
K

Kyoufu

Member
CamoKitty said:
It would definitely be a blast, but they would really need to put some real thought into how the tower operates as to keep it from becoming stale.
Click to expand...

One floor could have you and your teammates pinned near an elevator that opens periodically with an explosive charge detonation going off. To avoid the blast you'd need to clear out enemies that come in and take over the safe area of the room. If your group lacks the DPS needed to kill the enemies, then one of two things will happen:

1) You eat the blast from the elevator and are annihilated.

or

2) You move to the safe area of the room but the enemies are still up so you're out of cover and quickly wiped out by them out in the open.
 
C

CamoKitty

Member
Kyoufu said:
One floor could have you and your teammates pinned near an elevator that opens periodically with an explosive charge detonation going off. To avoid the blast you'd need to clear out enemies that come in and take over the safe area of the room. If your group lacks the DPS needed to kill the enemies, then one of two things will happen:

1) You eat the blast from the elevator and are annihilated.

or

2) You move to the safe area of the room but the enemies are still up so you're out of cover and quickly wiped out by them out in the open.
Click to expand...

How about modifiers such as an EMP that prevents you from using your abilities or you can only charge them by killing enemies.
 
K

Kyoufu

Member
CamoKitty said:
How about modifiers such as an EMP that prevents you from using your abilities or you can only charge them by killing enemies.
Click to expand...

Yep, there are definitely ways they could make it interesting for players.

Whether or not they do any of that though remains to be seen. I think we may see modifiers in the Challenge Mode at least.
 
O

On Demand

Banned
Kyoufu said:
Yes and yes. Just imagine going through every floor, each with its own unique enemy layout and boss.
Click to expand...

It should be able to be cleared out multiple ways too. I start at the bottom floor, you at the top, another player through the back or elevator. We meet up at a certain floor and continue on.

Damn i want this now.
 
C

CamoKitty

Member
Kyoufu said:
Yep, there are definitely ways they could make it interesting for players.

Whether or not they do any of that though remains to be seen. I think we may see modifiers in the Challenge Mode at least.
Click to expand...

Has a challenge mode been confirmed? I've kind of been in the dark about the game except the for the beta.
 
T

The_Hitcher89

Member
Is every level of every weapon locked to certain stats, or can they change around a bit? Like, will an unmodded level 5 SCAR have the exact same stats as everyone else's? If so, it'll be interesting to see how they avoid a certain weapon becoming a factual best in class. Semi-random effect perks locked to high level weapons maybe.
 
J

Jira

Member
The_Hitcher89 said:
Is every level of every weapon locked to certain stats, or can they change around a bit? Like, will an unmodded level 5 SCAR have the exact same stats as everyone else's? If so, it'll be interesting to see how they avoid a certain weapon becoming a factual best in class. Semi-random effect perks locked to high level weapons maybe.
Click to expand...

Rolls are completely random. We could both get the same pistol type but my roll could be hundreds of more damage or different affixes than what you get.
 
T

The_Hitcher89

Member
Jira said:
Rolls are completely random. We could both get the same pistol type but my roll could be hundreds of more damage or different affixes than what you get.
Click to expand...

Cool, was hoping it'd be like that. Ideally with small enough ranges on the stats so you can reliably predict how much damage a player's weapon will do by sight alone, and knowing what level they are.
 
N

Nokterian

Member
jet1911 said:
Getting closer to the Diablo with guns I always wanted!
Click to expand...

Goody goody i already had that diablo vibe seeing guns and gear drop with that beam in the sky.

VFLM6Od.jpg
Click to expand...

You know like this but in third person. Also the talent tree's do have some similarities to diablo you have a skill and do a bunch of different uses to it with different modifications just like the runes in diablo 3.
 
H

Houndi101

Member
The Dark Zone is just one piece of that endgame. Jansen isn't quite ready to share specifics, but players that prefer to avoid the stress of someone else stealing their stuff will have options.

"We have a tremendous amount of effort and focus on the PvE endgame as well," Jansen says. "Not all of it is going to be there when we launch. We're slowly going to be rolling it out for free in the beginning.

"Rest assured, there's PvE endgame for you, and there's going to be goals and challenges and things to aspire to for you and your group. Difficult things that you really want to set your sights on and accomplish."

One thing Jansen happily confirms: there won't be any "pay-to-win" microtransactions.

"We will sell more stuff for you to do in the game in the form of [downloadable content], but there won't be a pay-to-win or a pay-to-get-better-gear or pay-to-get-more-Dark-Zone-credit," he says.

"You can buy a pack of completely cosmetic items to make you look awesome. That you will be able to do, but that's not how I define microtransactions. We don't have it, I'm very pleased to say."
Click to expand...

http://mashable.com/2016/02/04/division-endgame-pve-dark-zone/#Pf7QodQBAuqh

Slight sliver of hope for PVE raids?
 
T

Theorry

Member
Could be yeah. I mean there is no point to release it on day one. Because nobody can play it. But they should communicate thats going to be there post launch. Otherwise you get this really. People worrying about pve endgame and probably reviewers also.
 
G

GravyButt

Member
Totally off topic but going to digitally preorder this and ufc 2 soon. Was curious whats the max amount of xblive credit you can have in your wallet since ufc2 isn't available for preorder yet?
 
K

Kyoufu

Member
Archpath1 said:
Thinking of going gold fellows

I just need to squeeze the trigger lol
Click to expand...

I went gold because I'm confident I'll be playing this for months. Didn't regret the Destiny season pass either.

If you don't think you'll be playing for long or you're just someone who hops from game to game then don't bother.
 
A

Ashtar

Member
I actually dreamt of the division last night..... which is odd
I think I want to go Gold even though the last time I kinda got burned, with destiny I bought the expansion pass but I also have GCU so it was a total of 72 + the 10 GC and then I ended up selling the pass.
The other issue is that I pre-ordered when the GC was 15 dollars so I don't want to lose that..... but I think I could finangle it through bb customer care
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

PS5 beta firmware adds DualSense controller sound enhancements and Share Screen interactions
Platform 2
89
6K
WitchHunter replied
Sea of Thieves PS5 Impressions - Improvements Over the Xbox/PC Versions
2 3
110
9K
Havoc2049 replied
Kotaku: Skull And Bones Is Less The Pirate Life And More The Division (Beta Review)
Analysis Review 2
52
6K
deeptech replied
  • Locked
Diablo IV Beta Info: availability, classes, PC requirements, rewards, more
44
4K
.Pennywise replied
  • Poll
Diablo IV Beta |Mini OT| READ THE OP
Community 43 44 45 46 47
2K
94K
Bitmap Frogs replied
Top Bottom