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[plagiarize]

I'd be shocked if there doesn't end up a way of enabling this on 5xxx series cards. AMD are going to have to do it anyway since they're rebadging 57xx cards into 67xx series cards, just wait for an unofficial tweak to pop up. Radeon Pro will probably build in support.

i hope so. i'd love to see GTA4 and Dead Space with some clean edges.

and it'd be great to see crysis with clean foliage AND clean geometry rather than either or.

 

[PjotrStroganov]

Can somebody tell me how to enable the in-game aa effect for foliage in Crysis?

 

[plagiarize]

Can somebody tell me how to enable the in-game aa effect for foliage in Crysis?

put r_UseEdgeAA = 2 in your autoexec.cfg file

you have to turn off MSAA.

 

[Aquavelvaman]

If next gen has the AA of this gen's bullshots I would be very happy.

 

[FoxSpirit]

This works on everything in Starcraft 2 and I WILL buy.

Seriously, my next buy is solely dependant on Starcraft 2 performance >.<

 

[Corky]

If next gen has the AA of this gen's bullshots I would be very happy.

well since this gen doesn't even have the AA of last gen's bullshots ( for example the bullshots of DOA / NG on xbox ) soo I doubt it

 

[AlStrong]

Seems awesome if it has less performance hit than MSAA!

That's not what the slide is claiming at all.

 

[brain_stew]

That's not what the slide is claiming at all.

Apparently the slide was lying! :lol

MLAA comes pretty much for "free" judging by the early test results we are getting, heaven knows what was going on with that slide.


UPDATE:

Its the real deal!

It has practically no noticeable impact on performance at all and the results, while slightly destructive, are still very good indeed.

The one real "gotcha" is that it affects the HUD as wel, not surprising since its a post-process after the fact and not integrated into the game's rendering pipeline but not ideal either. Here's a gif to demonstrate the effect.

 

[derFeef]

UPDATE:
Its the real deal!

Oh my, awesome. Here is hoping they put it in the drivers for the 5800 cards as well (at least).

 

[brain_stew]

Oh my, awesome. Here is hoping they put it in the drivers for the 5800 cards as well (at least).

Its achived with a simple Direct Compute shader so there's no technical reason it can't run on 5xxx series cards, if AMD prevent it, then that's because of marketing reasons, not technical reasons. If AMD don't officially support it, then we should get unofficial support, probably through RadeonPro.

Since its just a compute shader I wonder if some enterprising individual tries to hack in Nvidia support! :lol

 

[Binabik15]

Oh my, awesome. Here is hoping they put it in the drivers for the 5800 cards as well (at least).

This has to come to the 58XX series or I´ll, uhm, I´ll boycott AMD! Yeah, that´ll show them!

 

[kittoo]

If it turns out to be decent enough and Nvidia doesnt implement this, I am in AMD camp next time!

 

[jett]

Its achived with a simple Direct Compute shader so there's no technical reason it can't run on 5xxx series cards, if AMD prevent it, then that's because of marketing reasons, not technical reasons. If AMD don't officially support it, then we should get unofficial support, probably through RadeonPro.

Since its just a compute shader I wonder if some enterprising individual tries to hack in Nvidia support! :lol

Any chance this could be made to run on my old ass 4670?

 

[gregor7777]

Any chance this could be made to run on my old ass 4670?

Yep, there is a chance. I would wager that it won't be officially though. Probably through an external program.

 

[Nirolak]

Someone should do comparison picks for Mass Effect 2. I'm curious what this looks like on something with really big and detailed models.

 

[Aeana]

Ew... it really destroys the UI elements in SC2. That's too bad.

 

[jett]

Someone should do comparison picks for Mass Effect 2. I'm curious what this looks like on something with really big and detailed models.

http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/1/0/2/4/8/8/1/AA_003.jpg.jpg

That's what MLAA looks like on GOW3, but I guess it's probably not quite the same as AMD's implementation.

 

[pestul]

Sounds promising, but it needs to go through a lot of maturing based on those screenshots. I have excellent vision and I'm very sensitive to blurring caused by AA.. I would rather have no AA than that blurry mess.

 

[nib95]

I'll take it please! I find on such screens with such resolutions the blurring ins't too bad at all. If anything it can make things look cleaner sometimes.

 

[subversus]

http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/1/0/2/4/8/8/1/AA_003.jpg.jpg

That's what MLAA looks like on GOW3, but I guess it's probably not quite the same as AMD's implementation.

Damn, I need to buy this game.

 

[Nirolak]

http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles//a/1/0/2/4/8/8/1/AA_003.jpg.jpg

That's what MLAA looks like on GOW3, but I guess it's probably not quite the same as AMD's implementation.

Yeah, it definitely looks fantastic when you build it into the engine. I'm just curious if they can get close when doing it as an external post processing effect.

 

[Metalmurphy]

What about 48xx cards? :/

 

[LiquidMetal14]

More MLAA for everyone! May opt for an AMD on my next PC now.

 

[brain_stew]

Yeah, it definitely looks fantastic when you build it into the engine. I'm just curious if they can get close when doing it as an external post processing effect.

Its still nothing more than a post processing filter in GOW3, though, its just applied bbefore HUD elements are overlayed, that's all.

While its externally forced like this, its likely always going to have the issue with HUD elements and texts but since its nothing more than a simple compute shader, integrating it into any DX11 engine should be a piece of cake and I suspect this will be AMD's approach with the algorithm now. Integrating it into a DX11 engine means universal support but AMD still benefit because the specific implementation used will be supremely optimised for their hardware. Any game that implements the shader natively won't have the HUD blurring problem.

 

[Luigiv]

If you have a 5xxx or 6xxx series card, why would you be playing said MRT utilising games in DX9 mode in the first place?

I've got AA, no problems, in Dead Space.

 

[JADS]

If you have a 5xxx or 6xxx series card, why would you be playing said MRT utilising games in DX9 mode in the first place?

I've got AA, no problems, in Dead Space.

Because the AA in Dead Space is far from perfect and not applied to all surfaces ( I assume you are using the Darkstalkers trick?)

 

[Luigiv]

Because the AA in Dead Space is far from perfect and not applied to all surfaces ( I assume you are using the Darkstalkers trick?)

I'm using whatever the in game option is I guess. Looks fine to me. Much better then that MLAA at the very least.

 

[JADS]

I'm using whatever the in game option is I guess. Looks fine to me. Much better then that MLAA at the very least.

Notice how Isaac's suit, the guy that is hanging from the ceiling and some of the valve thingys ahead are still aliased. That's sadly how the game looks for me when using the ingame AA option.

 

[gofreak]

Its still nothing more than a post processing filter in GOW3, though, its just applied bbefore HUD elements are overlayed, that's all.

I guess you can also make choices about your buffers that 'suit' this method that may go a bit deeper than just turning it on or off for different buffers. And you can probably also tweak it to best suit the typical edges and edge contrast in your game too. (If applying it as part of your rendering pipeline vs at a driver level, I mean).

 

[Psychotext]

Notice how Isaac's suit, the guy that is hanging from the ceiling and some of the valve thingys ahead are still aliased. That's sadly how the game looks for me when using the ingame AA option.

That's some pretty minor aliasing. I wondered what I was trying to see for a while (the valves are more obvious).

 

[Lathentar]

Ew... it really destroys the UI elements in SC2. That's too bad.

Probably going to destroy the UI elements in all games unless its built into the engine sadly. Saboteur had this issue.

 

[derFeef]

RT @phuzi0n: @CatalystMaker will Morph.AA be backported to older generations ME - already answered it many times - yes its coming in future

http://twitter.com/CatalystMaker/statuses/28416950671

 

[M3d10n]

What I like about this news is that AMD finally their drivers to run custom D3D shaders after the games are rendered. If this can be hacked, we can load whatever post processing shader we want.

(Ages ago the Radon drivers supported custom shaders for OpenGL games, which I used for all kinds of amusement).

 

[plagiarize]

http://twitter.com/CatalystMaker/statuses/28416950671

awesome.

i can definately live with slight hud destruction as a trade off for no jaggies. can't wait to see this in GTA4.

 

[John_B]

And along came new awesome technology that completely vanished old stupid technology.

That guy at Intel deserves a medal. This will become the de facto standard over a few years. And by next generation, pretty much every console game will have Anti-Aliasing implemented. A feat that I personally thought the industry was far from achieving owing to the nature of conventional Anti-Aliasing technology.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

And along came new awesome technology that completely vanished old stupid technology.

That guy at Intel deserves a medal. This will become the de facto standard over a few years. And by next generation, pretty much every console game will have Anti-Aliasing implemented. A feat that I personally thought the industry was far from achieving owing to the nature of conventional Anti-Aliasing technology.

You should see God of War 3. For old tech in the PS3, it looks amazing.

 

[pestul]

Seems us 5xxx and perhaps older generations are going to benefit from this very soon in a 10.10 hotfix driver. We won't have to wait for the hacks.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

 

[Binabik15]

Seems us 5xxx and perhaps older generations are going to benefit from this very soon in a 10.10 hotfix driver. We won't have to wait for the hacks.

I´m almost through Crysis, but with MLAA added to my 5850 I´d play it again right away Better foliage? Maximum boner. Plus easily "forcing" AA? I lurv AMD for this!

PS: I still need to get GOW3, thanks for making me spend money :/

 

[Anony]

i'm using ATT (ati tray tools) as opposed to ati's catalyst software

i hope i can use this 'radeonpro' software

 

[Minsc]

I´m almost through Crysis, but with MLAA added to my 5850 I´d play it again right away Better foliage? Maximum boner. Plus easily "forcing" AA? I lurv AMD for this!

PS: I still need to get GOW3, thanks for making me spend money :/

For games like Crysis and Metro 2033 where you don't have to do much reading, this is really going to shine. For your text & UI heavy strategy games, not so much.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Just for another few example of God of War 3 MLAA......

I bought a Hauppauge HD PVR today and was keen to do some testing, so i booted up the 'big 3' on the PS3.

God of War 3 - all during gameplay

Credit to the quoted user.

 

[derFeef]

Aha, God of War 3, okay, it looks good. But MLAA is implemented with the technology in mind here. Those shots shots show nothing except that it looks nice. I really want to see a highres, non compressed image with MLAA on and off with AMD´s solution.

 

[Crayon]

Yay console games with AA!!!


editVVV actually i had no idea how nice it looked. Pretty intense.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Aha, God of War 3, okay, it looks good. But MLAA is implemented with the technology in mind here. Those shots shots show nothing except that it looks nice. I really want to see a highres, non compressed image with MLAA on and off with AMD´s solution.

You right :lol Oh well, at least we get to see how nice it looks

 

[mr_nothin]

Yay console games with AA!!!


editVVV actually i had no idea how nice it looked. Pretty intense.

Looks as good as a PC game D:
Yea I said it!

 

[SapientWolf]

Seems us 5xxx and perhaps older generations are going to benefit from this very soon in a 10.10 hotfix driver. We won't have to wait for the hacks.

Nice.

 

[scitek]

Seems us 5xxx and perhaps older generations are going to benefit from this very soon in a 10.10 hotfix driver. We won't have to wait for the hacks.

Oh god, then I can finally play through GTA4. Right now, I just can't touch it.

 

[Domstercool]

Can anyone get these 10.10 drivers? I try to get to the website and I can see they are up, but in a second it just flashes to some language option white page

 

[bloodforge]

Can anyone get these 10.10 drivers? I try to get to the website and I can see they are up, but in a second it just flashes to some language option white page

Downloaded just fine for me.