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The non-Pixar animated movie HATE thread
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Fudgepuppy
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An animated movie is not bad per definition because of it having many celebrities as voice-actors, just look at Ratatouille.
shanshan310
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Story? definitely. Animation style? I can't see it.
You know that thread comparing old simpsons and new simpsons? its like that. Its too clean and mechanical.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Prince of Egypt has
Patrick Stewart
Ralph Fiennes
Val Kilmer
Jeff Goldblum
Sandra Bullock
Michelle Pfeiffer
Danny Glover
Helen Mirren
Steve Martin
Martin Short
and is the best animated film mentioned in this thread.
Lord British
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I dunno. I find that most CGI movies are of a distinct style by comparison to a lot of the same studios' 2D output, which was generally the same sort of thing, over and over. Nice-looking all told, and I love 2D, but all the Pixar/Dreamworks movies at least appear to take place in distinct universes (except Monsters Vs Aliens and Megamind which look very similar iirc). Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Pocahontas, Hunchback etc, as much as I love them, look very much homogenised Disney.
It's possible I'm misunderstanding your issue with CGI, so please elaborate further if so.
A Human Becoming
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As a Pixar fanboy, I thought Rango was fantastic.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Bro, what?
There is nothing mechanical about the animation in The Incredibles or Ratatouille. You are WELL MAD.
Lord British
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I love The Incredibles, but I can sort of see the issue someone might have. With CGI in general there is a disconnect with some people, sort of like how when I watch other people's TVs with that weird smoothing effect switched on it bugs the piss out of me. They can't tell the difference at all.
It's your opinion of course, but as someone who is an animator and has studied these films frame-by-frame, eh?
SCULLIBUNDO
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I think I know what he's talking about. He's talking about character and animation that is too rigid. It doesn't have that same elastic flow like an old Don Bluth animation might have. But I tell you Incredibles has it. I keep thinking back to the scene between Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl where she tells him he needs to be more flexible, before leaving over the tops of buildings.
StalkerUKCG
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Cars and Cars 2 fantastic and easily in my top 2 pixar series maybe even my favourite and ill maintain this till the day i die
SCULLIBUNDO
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Has everyone forgotten this movie?
Tintin will just derail the whole thread because a lot of people can't handle just how awesome it is.
It's because of the whole "it looks uncanny valley" nonsense.
Some of the scenes in tintin were the best I have seen in an animation film.
Lord British
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Ah, Tintin was brilliant, but I have trouble considering it an animated movie, per se. It was mocapped, wasn't it?
Someone still had to draw everything and design everything. This is just like people saying that CGI isn't "real" animation decades ago.
It was mocapped, but it was also heavily worked on by animators (like all mocap films).
Lord British
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It's just a personal thing, I don't begrudge the obvious hard work that went into it. I just consider it in a different space from the Pixar/Dreamworks output, since actors were involved.
I don't mean to undermine the animators' efforts at all.
I like Dreamworks movies. Madagascar has it's place in the world as a clean slapstick comedy for kids.
PIXAR is my favorite but they don't have a lock on animated movies as they don't produce enough of them to be the only good studio in town.
The good and bad stuff are all part of a mature genre.
PIXAR is my favorite but they don't have a lock on animated movies as they don't produce enough of them to be the only good studio in town.
The good and bad stuff are all part of a mature genre.
Pixar was very fortunate to receive Steve Jobs' blessing as well, it seems every movie they make is loved by the masses.
I am not a big fan of the company's output, particularly in recent years. It feels like Pixar creates movies for the purpose of showing off some new technology (number of characters rendered on screen, realistic fur, water, human skin/hair etc). Out of all their films, the only ones I've truly enjoyed have been Toy Story, A Bug's Life, and Finding Nemo.
I am not a big fan of the company's output, particularly in recent years. It feels like Pixar creates movies for the purpose of showing off some new technology (number of characters rendered on screen, realistic fur, water, human skin/hair etc). Out of all their films, the only ones I've truly enjoyed have been Toy Story, A Bug's Life, and Finding Nemo.
2D for lyfe!
Messofanego
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This really is the key. Story is king. Pixar are masters at telling a great story.
The Lion King is still the best animation ever in every regard. Classic 90s Disney + Tangled & Princess and The Frog are just as good as Pixar imo. Dreamworks are capable of great films but they're too rare/inconsistent.
In terms of pure animation, I believe Tangled holds the throne at the moment. Classic Disney style with Glen Keane but in 3D. Love it.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Now I don't want to cause a thread derail, but The Prince of Egypt smacks The Lion King down so hard it falls into a chasm and gets trampled to death like the relative pussycat it is.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I've been hanging out for that film, but it's obviously not the type of American mainstream animated flicks we're talking about in the thread. Next we'll have people bringing up the Ghibli collection.
SCULLIBUNDO
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That's Scullidamus to you. Also, get that tapeworm checked.
Is this thread mostly focused on kids/family animated movies?
If not then I'll just leave this here:
No, of course it isn't. Don't let the fact that every post references children's movies confuse you. :/
Lord British
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How and why have I not seen this yet?
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Get on it.
Lord British
Member
I'm gonna, tonight. I don't suppose it's on Blu-ray? What's the best way to watch?
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
DVD. Though I'm in Australia so I can't check Netflix. Lots of us still hanging out for the blu release.
DonasaurusRex
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gee i dunno if we should be comparing pixar's latest....cars2 with some non pixar efforts...because
Rango
How to train your dragon
and Tangled come to mind
as the best three in my recent memory. Pixar is great but what have they done lately that is tops? I loved Toy Story but i liked HttyD better ultimately.
Brave does look good though.
Rango
How to train your dragon
and Tangled come to mind
as the best three in my recent memory. Pixar is great but what have they done lately that is tops? I loved Toy Story but i liked HttyD better ultimately.
Brave does look good though.
PeakPointMatrix
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The core of Up is strong, but it's sabotaged by some overly obnoxious choices that consume half of the movie. The high-pitched talking dogs for example, they served almost no purpose with a gimmicky annoying joke on the leader that served even less of a purpose. To be funny? Sure, if you think listening to Hopper or Zurg talk through helium for no reason is funny? The Dug/Kevin/Russel dynamic had cute moments but were some mostly loud overdrawn humor. Russel's introduction and decision to help Kevin felt shoved in, literally occurring from Russel shouting "look he's in trouble, let's help him!", and so it just happens. It didn't unfold very naturally.
Also, some odd noticeable plot holes like Muntz still being alive even though he looked to be about in his late-30's when Carl was still a kid. What is he, like 110 now? The Dirigible all male dog spa/museum thing was pretty odd as well. Up shone its brightest with the Carl and Ellie moments, which were executed beautifully. Moments between Carl and Russel were also extremely well done. It's just that the tone of the movie feels wildly spastic compared to something like Toy Story, Nemo or Monsters, which weaved in and out of emotional moments and humor appropriately and naturally. Up is still pretty good, but inconsistent.
So what you're saying is, Dreamworks sux?
Houston3000
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I absolutely love Pixar but non-Pixar stuff is fine as well sometimes.
How to Train Your Dragon, Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2, Ice Age 1, Rango, I even thought a couple of the Shrek movies were good and Puss in Boots.
Oh, when I watched Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs it was probably the most I've ever laughed watching any CG animated movie ever. That movie is great, I wasn't expecting it to be so damn hilarious.
How to Train Your Dragon, Kung Fu Panda 1 and 2, Ice Age 1, Rango, I even thought a couple of the Shrek movies were good and Puss in Boots.
Oh, when I watched Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs it was probably the most I've ever laughed watching any CG animated movie ever. That movie is great, I wasn't expecting it to be so damn hilarious.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Cloudy is the my favourite comedy of the last decade behind Hot Fuzz.
heliosRAzi
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*edit - I'm avoiding any out-right hate here.
Part of what bothered me about the majority of non-Pixar animated movies over the last decade was this (not just Dreamworks):
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